bayAreaShaman said

...Yes i did get that from my mom. Last time i check learning things from your parents was normal.... 
 
   

That's if you had available parents. I didn't. Hard knocks, baby. The force tells me "brace yourself if you wanna censor another, cause censorship will be coming for you next."

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Pigg said
Someone ingesting something for religious beliefs is affecting themselves and themselves only....

Unless (I suspect) they want the government to subsidize their resulting health care after ingesting their god of choice.

Pigg said 
...Someone who is a government employee does not have a right to refuse to do their job due to religious liberty. Especially if their "religious liberty" affects someone else's right (according to the supreme court) to marry another consenting adult... 
  

Here, hopefully yes (yay U.S. Constitution) but check out what happens in theocracies in the Middle East. There, religion rules, and liberty doesn't seem to have anything to do with the equation.

Pigg said 
... I may have misunderstood your response, because I feel like you already understand this.   

Let's not get crazy. I'll leave that to California.

This fucking thread is all over the place.

TurnaFraze said
This fucking thread is all over the place.  

Doesn't have to be straight forward only the poll does. Honestly the subject matter is too depressing to stick to 100% of the time. You never want to see a ninja fall and you sure as hell don't want to talk about it much.

If you really want to stay on subject here then I stick by my previous suggestions. Block both Scruffy and Smack from posting anywhere except one specific thread for at least a week. Let them figure their own shit out without anyone elses help like fucking men. No more of this spamming the forums, no more deleting posts....either solve your issues in that thread or leave FLH forever.

Pigg said

They tried this before. With Patjoyce and Smack. I don't remember why, but it didn't work. I don't mind smack when his crazy tantrums aren't attached, but he has shown he can't seperate himself from the crazy for more than like a month at a time. 

 

Maybe it's scruffy being a manipulative dick and deleting posts for no reason, but when you react like smack has done and has continued to do, it's hard for people to take your side. I follow Smack on IG and he's fine, he just a total tool in here for some reason.   

It is a mixture of both. But for stability someone will have to go I think.

Like I said previously I think Scruffy deletes shit for small reasons sometimes but the way Smack handles it and takes it out on the community with his spam is bullshit and he knows it. When he is being decent he is cool as fuck but that will never happen while Scruffy is here and Smack has said as much.

Oh, so Tidwell had an opinion that didn't coincided with everybody else's so he told you guys that you were wrong and tried to force you into his views. That makes him any different from most people on here? No. Read half the shit you say in arguments, Novo. Read the shit everybody says in arguments. People act the same way Tidwell does over music opinions all the fucking time on here. Like you trying to force me into not listening to horrorcore Tyler Perry anymore. You can't change me, and how dare you try to change me. Also, I bet my piss is cleaner than yours.How you describe Tidwell is no different than Smack going on his anti america rants. "Oh, he was just trying to provoke a reaction" That's what Tidwell was doing, just trying to provoke a reaction.

The logic is, if Tidwell was as full of shit as you guys say he is you guys would have ignored him like you guys claim to do with Smack knowing that he is full of shit. But Tidwell wasn't full of shit and what he had to say may have held a little bit of truth that you guys didn't like. That's why you guys all got together to trash him like that. No, you didn't put a poll together to ban him but what did you think was going to happen when everybody got together to call him a fat stupid whiny faggot? You think he'd want to stay with everybody on him like that? Don't be so naive, more like denial. Because you can't even handle drama with one person with out taking a break, so of course he's not going to stay here when everybody is attacking him. Now with Smack, he's came here with the sole intentions of starting drama. The whole entire time he was here he only tried to fit in as a normal member in the last year which did not last too long. He says bigoted shit. I know it's just for a reaction and that he doesn't even believe half the shit he says but he still says bigoted fucked up shit. Never have you guys ever got on anybodies back like you guys did to Tidwell over the fucked up shit that he or anybody else has ever said. Period. And now you guys are hypocritically standing up for his right to say fucked up shit right after damning somebody for saying things that weren't nearly as fucked up under the premise of Smack being full of shit? Or it's because Smack was entertaining? I smell bullshit on this.

And for the record, I have told Tidwell on multiple occasions that I don't agree with a lot of the things he's trying to push. He has never EVER called me a bigot before.

Also, I don't personally think most of you are raging bigots like Tidwell said, but I do think there is a sliver of bigotry that he pointed out in you guys that you guys are ashamed of and that's why you guys reacted that way. Because I've seen the bigoted undertones myself. And I have seen some of that in me and that's why I chose to do a little self reflection and perhaps change a few things about me rather than throw a tantrum about it. Tidwell inspired me to try and stop saying faggot. He's helped me try and be a better person, that's more than what most of you have done on here. Not that there is a responsibility just that it should be a little more respected despite a few flaws. I actually just ignored him when he said shit I didn't agree with, because I explained my point of view already. Didn't change shit so why waste the time, you know?

My opinion on Smack? I don't give a shit what happens. Let's be honest, banning him won't get rid of him. It just won't. If he gets banned he'll have a whole vendetta against the site. He also shoulda been banned a long time ago. For spam. He's been Spamming this site with the same thing over and over again long before his beef with Scruffy. Or are you too quick to forget things? Don't be one of those dumbasses that says "oh that was the past" because it makes you sound like an abused girl friend trying to convince everybody that he's changed. He obviously won't let go of the past, so why should anybody let go of his past? And don't fool  yourselves into thinking that he'd really try to behave ever. He never sticks to it. His sole purpose here is to provoke a reaction. I don't give a shit if Scruffy is secretly deleting posts. It would be funny as fuck if he was doing that. It also proves how one sided you people can be, because you fucking forget that shady bullshit Smack was doing to try and get Scruffy in trouble. Remember when Scottie told Scruffy to quit censoring people, so Smack started posting [Redacted] in an attempt to get Scruffy banned? Remember how he called Scruffy's job? Remember how he posted personal info about Scruffy over the forum? Remember when he tried to blame that fake facebook account on Scruffy to get him in trouble which was really funny because just two years ago he was telling us how he knew it was Pat that did it? Scruffy hasn't censored anybody but Smack since that one time last year. So do I think it's a gross display of power? No, not too gross, not in this case. Especially since I know most of you would act the same way. And also because it's a fucking forum on the internet and not some important congressman corrupting us with corporate greed like many of you sad saps make it out to be. Also, do you guys remember why he started censoring people? It was because the constant bickering was scaring off forum members. He made it very clear that it was a temporary thing. Also, he had plenty of requests from forum member to do that. I highly disagreed with it, but I won't demonize him for anything he's done like you guys are trying to fucking do. And do you guys honestly think he actually cares about being a moderator in the first place? Like that's going to hurt him? My idea is this. I don't give a fuck what happens to Smack. I stand for his right to say what he wants like I stand for Tidwell's right to say what he wants. But there are plenty of things that Smack should have been banned for a long time ago. Specifically spamming the forums. But if Scruffy gets demoted from the moderator position I think Smack should be permanently banned. That is what's fair.

By the way, Nyro, they have tried making up. It went on for a good month or so where there was no drama. Then something went down in a thread that OJC requested to have deleted between Smack and OCJ. So Smack took that all out on Scruffy and hasn't shut the fuck up since.

@lucem-ferre yeah I am aware. That is why I said something has to change.

I guarantee you lose more people keeping smack then you do losing him unless he changes.

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King Lucem Ferre said
Notice the people that were perfectly fine with mobbing on Rob Tidwell and lynching him for calling them bigots are standing up for a bigot's right to be a bigot?

There's absolutely some people on here that called Tidwell on his shit yet don't bat an eye with Smack says some legit bigoted shit. 

Which is what I think you were getting at there. 

Probably because Tidwell was right. They are bigots. Think about it. When Smack says some fucked up bigoted shit it's we need to ignore him and quit being little bitches because we should all know by now that he's full of shit,

The problem with that is when Smack gets ignored he often spreads the shit into other threads and makes you notice him. I didn't go into the "fuck scruffy" thread because I knew what was there. Nothing I'm interested in. Same thing as when Tidwell would start a thread about social issues, I didn't go into it because I knew what was there. Difference is, Smack will start posting shit into unrelated threads and derail them with pages worth of posts until someone pays attention to him. 

but when Tidwell calls people out for being bigots that's when they get upset because the same logic does not apply because they know he's not full of shit. They are bigoted whiny little fuckers. That's a fact.

There's a modicum of truth to that but to imply that he didn't go off the rails on his "bigot" shit is simply not true. Sure, there are some bigots here and he called them out appropriately but the dude said multiple times that anyone that uses any words that HE deems offensive is a bigot. That's some ignorant, ironically bigoted, shit. 

So keep Smack here, he needs to be here to gather the biggotlos and lead a war against Scruffy and the PClos in a moment that can only be described as a juggalo Armageddon. There will be lots of feces, mud and faygo thrown among each other and probably a last supper buffet deal with lots and lots of fast food before Nyro gets crucified by the jewgalos and descends into shangri la creating a whole new sect that believes he died for our sinnalos called Nyrolos.

You've lost me. Smack is bad, therefor he should stay? I really don't understand what you're sayin here, man. 

Cell you nailed it! That is my #1 issue with smack is he basically ruins the entire forums. It takes mods 30 minutes to delete all his shit IF they even do...if they don't you have a bunch of filth ruining threads and you can't get rid of it.

We need a NEW mod solely dedicated to enforcing the forums and keeping decent threads clean of bullshit. I love having fun but some threads require less bullshit and definitely not the filth he spreads on them.

Who likes giving spankings? Give that person a mod job and get rid of Warlock.

PS: Nyrolos already exist. At least I hope they do.