I learned from a college Anthropology teacher that sometimes a culture will look at other humans as ‘non-human two-legged’ things. I’m guessing IS is so busy being right in their holy war that they don’t think in terms of humanity. The book

Confessions of an Economic Hit Man

http://resistir.info/livros/jo…..it_man.pdf

is an amazing account by someone who was at the center of the corruption of the military-industrial complex, and beyond fueling any conspiracy theories it could be a great informative springboard to fact-check about corporate involvement in underdeveloped countries. Seems corporations build infrastructures in destitute countries to pull them out of the Third World, then have the countries in debt for what seems like forever (and have access to said countries’ natural resources.) Sometimes Third World locals turn into freedom fighters when this happens, and the saying goes something like ‘one man’s freedom fighter is another man’s terrorist.’ Religious reformists like IS are always dangerous (Puritans were executing non-Puritans in Boston hundreds of years ago) because they are on a mission from their God. Here’s to questioning everything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czlnKrWPHh0

The other forum I go to is much more strict than this one. People actually get banned for saying offensive shit.

People over there were making jokes about this, until a mod stopped it. I won’t repeat them, but I just thought you should know that this forum has much more class than you think.

scruffy said

Mr. Tidwell said

Ridik Rage said
“The peaceful religion” at work again.

It ain’t the religion but power mad people who exploit and manipulate others desperation and vulnerability. 
ISIS attacked mosques on Islamic holy days. They repeatedly violate the rules of the religion they wrap themselves in while they brutalize innocent people. 
Islam is inherently flawed and contradictory as all religions are but there are so many people who practice the faith and are benefits to our communities.

ima leave this one alone, cuz a] it can be a touchy issue, b] i see it as smoke n mirrors at best, free advertising for hatemongering at worst, and c] its ultimately irrelevant;  see below. 

Western involvement in the middle east and north Africa definitely creates terroristic violence. We destroy their communities, steal their wealth, misrepresent their culture, kill their families, and arm their dictators. To pretend like Islam is responsible and that we played no part is dishonest and arrogant. 

the first and second sentences of that paragraph are also pretending.  like a mufucka. 

we are not talkin about ‘peoples who have been downtrodden’, here. 

we are talkin about fuckwads that back-shot a hundred kids at a rock concert.  that blow up fuckin airliners. 

there.  is.  absolutely.  no.  legitimacy.  for.  that. 

 

destroying that persons community, family, or culture, is not only honest, its called for. 

wanna go on a rampage and kill the ones that actually repress you, thats one thing.  to kill the softest, most uninvolved targets you can find is waaay different.  by several orders of magnitude. 

 

for what its worth, air strikes have been all in the game for a hundred years. 

collateral damage has been all in the game since the fuckin start.  probably predates fire. 

sucks, yes, but lets not get turned around, here. 

Again, I ain’t saying these people are innocent or right or justifiable or that it’s somehow in anyway not a tragedy, just that we’re part of the problem of violence against innocent lives and when we bomb hospitals and we arm dictators, we push people towards retaliation. We ain’t the only factor, of course, but we play a much larger role than the religion they happen to belong to. Fuckheads like that will wrap themselves in ANYTHING in order to justify their bullshit. Their religion is just a tool to appease their violent, broken minds. 

And I’m sorry that you feel I misrepresented what you were saying but that’s what that shit looks like to me. If you don’t think thats what you were saying, reread the bolded parts. You draw a clear distinction between the lives lost in paris and the lives lost to collateral damage. You say that targeting the families and communities that birthed the terrorists is honest and called for. I can’t agree with that on any level. That is utterly, unquestionably, and vehemently rejected on my end. Especially since we’ve (the US) has been doing that for decades and Europe has been doing it for CENTURIES. 

the_legendary_smack said

scruffy said
take a moment to think about these many, many, many victims. 

 

 

now, take a moment to think about the bilious pieces of shit that do this to us. 

yeah, us.  regular, normal humans.  us. 

 

vile motherfuckers.  

punk-ass, weak-ass, coward-ass, scumbag-ass, pussy-ass motherfuckers. 

 

fuck anybody who thinks that the way to fight a fight, is to kill people who arent in it. 

fuck em. 

talk about the pot calling the kettle black right here.

what a fucking hypocrite you are scruffy

I remember posting something extremly similar last year right around now about when an asshole walked into Canadian parliment and started shooting the place up killing a few people and you found it funny.

you are the punk-ass, weak-ass,coward-ass,scumbag-ass, pussy- ass 

and yes fuck anyone who thinks its ok to delete people posts and rob that post from other people to read.

your just like those terroists pussies, you think just because you don’t agree with someone that they should be cencored you fucking jihadi radical sack of shit.

look at yourself and your own actions.

I feel bad for the people in Paris that’s some fucked up shit right there and considering I am from Quebec and French is my language it hits a little too close to home for me but somebody like you saying that is bullshit because you scruffy are the same type of person that would do what they have done.

your a fucking joke man

you are a fucking disgusting piece of shit to compare your bullshit against scruffy to nearly 200 deaths.

krunkazphuk said

Mr. Tidwell said 
ISIS attacked mosques on Islamic holy days. They repeatedly violate the rules of the religion they wrap themselves in while they brutalize innocent people. 
 

According to

http://www.usnews.com/news/art…..in-of-isis

there is no unified Islamic identity or central religious authority, and Islamic texts are open for interpretation by all of its (over one billion) followers. Therefore, like Game of Thrones “Every pile of shit on the side of every road has someone’s banner hanging from it,” only replace ‘banner’ with ‘theology.’

Mr. Tidwell said
 It ain’t the religion but power mad people who exploit and manipulate others desperation and vulnerability. 

The same article attributes the recent violence to an Islamic Reformation that’s been happening for almost a hundred years. It seems short-sighted to completely discount religious influence when “People tend to forget that the Christian Reformation in Europe led to the deaths of nearly half the population of Germany alone. Reformations are catastrophic, violent affairs… Like all puritans, the chief objective of ISIS is to purify the Muslim community, to rid it of what it sees as its innovations and to return it to some idealized, utopian and totally imaginary past.” IS is reportedly selectively interpreting apocalyptic prophecy and calling other Muslim factions apostates. They seem to know that their god is bigger than everyone else’s, so to understand this theological pissing contest it may require religious insight in a desert fresh out of safe spaces.

That is generally fairly accurate but it also says repeatedly that they are not operating within the faith system and are recruiting apostates. They’re twisting and manipulating the words of the Qur’an the same way that Fred Phelps and his church did over the bible which is my point. It isn’t the religion that is saying HEY GO OUT AND KILL it’s fuckholes who have an agenda and are deliberately using the religion as a tool to manipulate people. 

LuckyNumbrXIII said

the_legendary_smack said
un mod him make someone like lucky or sean law or even patjoyce a mod in his place

novocaine for mod 2016.

i would be waaaay worse than scruffy.

i would moderate this forum so hard.

noones post would be safe.

i would have a list of secret words, and if you say them i would delete your post.

Mr. Tidwell said 
They’re twisting and manipulating the words of the Qur’an the same way that Fred Phelps and his church did over the bible which is my point.

Psyral and I observed from across the street in Houston when Westboro Church members hit Osteen’s megachurch years ago. I used the experience for an Ethics class, and suspect that the level of ignorance I was observing from Phelps’ drones wasn’t in their selective, hate-fueled perception of biblical verse. It was in their narcissistic selfie videos, high-fives, and absolute belief that they were absolutely right. Power can corrupt in any form, even religious. God bless blasphemy.