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July 14, 2013
10:22 pm
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iLLtheClown said

No free for you. You pay.

He's from Austrailia, you don't have to promise him shit.

July 14, 2013
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novocaine said

RydaFoLife said
You're*

 

You're a grammar nazi and still a retard.

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July 14, 2013
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Lucem Ferre said
I think maybe I was wrong and maybe it's not racially motivated and I was suckered by media and public opinion.

Though I still do believe it's fucked up that Melissa got 20 years and Zimmerman got nothing, though I now very little about the Melissa Alexander case.

Marissa Alexander, the 31-year-old Florida woman who fired what her family calls a warning shot at her abusive husband, was sentenced Friday morning to 20 years in prison.

Alexander was convicted of three counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon for firing into a wall near her husband and his two young children at their Jacksonville home in 2010. Alexander has maintained that she wasn't trying to hurt anyone and that she was standing her ground against a man who had over the course of nearly a year punched and choked her on several different occasions. Alexander says that she believed she was protected that day under the state's Stand Your Ground Law, which gives people wide discretion in using deadly force to defend themselves.

A judge and a jury disagreed.

The State Attorney's Office offered a plea bargain that would have sent Alexander to prison for three years, but she rejected it, hoping to convince a jury that she had been defending herself when she fired the weapon.

Alexander's case has become the latest battleground in a fight against what Alexander's supporters call the misapplication of the Stand Your Ground Law and Florida's mandatory minimum sentencing laws, which offer stiff sentences for crimes involving guns.

According to Florida's 10-20-Life statutes, anyone who pulls a gun during a crime receives a mandatory 10-year sentence. Firing a gun during the commission of a crime equals a mandatory 20-year sentence. Anyone convicted of shooting and killing another person during a crime is sentenced to 25 years to life in prison.

Alexander, who did not have a criminal record before the shooting, was convicted of felony assault with a gun.

 

"Florida's mandatory 10-20-life gun law forced the Court to impose an arbitrary, unjust and completely inappropriate sentence,” said Greg Newburn, Florida project director for Families Against Mandatory Minimums, a group that fights to repeal such laws. "As long as Florida keeps its inflexible gun sentencing laws, we will continue to see cases like Ms. Alexander's."

Alexander, a mother of three, and her family have vowed to keep fighting.

"It's like a nightmare that we can't wake up from," Helen Jenkins, Alexander's mother, told HuffPost shortly after the sentencing. "But we just take it one day at a time. Emotionally we are spent, but every day we start over because we have to fight for Marissa."

Jenkins said the family is currently raising funds to hire another attorney to appeal Alexander's case.

Angela Corey, the state attorney who oversaw the case against Alexander, said that justice was indeed served and that Alexander was angry and reckless, not fearful, on the night of the shooting. Just because no one was harmed in the incident doesn't make the shooting any less a punishable crime, Corey said.

"I feel like when someone fires a loaded gun inside of a home with two children standing in the direction where the bullet was fired, we have to have tough laws that say you don't do that," Corey told HuffPost. "Justice, with the laws of the state of Florida, was served. But I don't believe her supporters will ever believe that."

The Jacksonville courtroom in which Alexander was sentenced was packed with Alexander's family and supporters. At one point, according to news reports, a group of young supporters stood up and sang or chanted, "We who believe in justice will not rest!"

One by one, Alexander's family members addressed the court, including Alexander's mother and father, a sister and a brother who broke down in tears as they talked about their sister and how they believe the system had wronged her.

Alexander's daughter, Havelin, 11, read from a letter she'd written and questioned "how my mom could be beaten but she's the one arrested," according to Lincoln Alexander, the girl's father and Marissa's ex-husband.

"That's the reason why I'm fighting," Lincoln Alexander told Huffpost. "I'm fighting for my kids ... I knew this day was coming and my thoughts were on them. Would they be strong enough?"

If Alexander's future appeals are unsuccessful, and she serves her full 20-year term in prison, her twins will be 31 years old when she is released. Her youngest will be 22.

"Today was another tough day for them," Lincoln Alexander said of his kids. "Once they took Marissa away and we walked out of the court and everything was over, that's when it was toughest."

On Aug. 1, 2010, a fight between Alexander and her husband, Rico Gray, 36, left her cornered in the couple's home. She fled into the garage to escape but was trapped behind a jammed door, she stated in court documents. She said she grabbed the gun she kept in the garage, returned to the house and, when Gray threatened to kill her, fired a single shot to ward him off.

Gray ran out of the house with his two sons and called the police. Alexander was arrested and charged. She unsuccessfully invoked her right to stand her ground in court. Alexander's sentencing comes 435 days after the shooting. It took a jury 12 minutes to find her guilty.

Gray himself admitted in a deposition to abusing "all five of his babies' mamas except one," and to hitting Alexander. Alexander's family and supporters say that Gray's testimony should not be trusted, because he perjured himself by changing his account of events on the night of the shooting between his early depositions and later court hearings -- a claim that was not disputed by Corey, the state attorney.

Alexander’s case has drawn comparisons to the case of Trayvon Martin, the unarmed black teenager shot to death in February by a neighborhood watch volunteer who claimed he shot Martin in self-defense. The shooter, George Zimmerman, was initially released after the police said he was within his legal rights to defend himself. He was later arrested and charged with second-degree murder more than 40 days later.

Both the Martin and Alexander cases have stirred controversy around Florida's self-defense and gun laws, but it wasn't until some media pivoted from the Martin case to Alexander's that her name became known outside of Jacksonville.

Her family has set up a website and has appeared on cable news shows and nationally syndicated radio programs to spread the word about the "injustice" that they believe Alexander has suffered.

But in the past week, Angela Corey, the state attorney (who also is prosecuting Zimmerman in the Martin case), has launched a media offensive to combat what she has called "misinformation" being spread by the family about the circumstances of the shooting.

Shortly after the sentencing, Corey echoed comments she made to HuffPost earlier this week, saying that Alexander's own actions on the night of the incident and in the following months have landed her in the position that she is in.

While Alexander's family has portrayed her as a victim at the end of her emotional rope and in fear of her life, Corey says Alexander fired in anger and not in fear. Corey disputes the so-called warning shot into the ceiling with photographs that show bullet holes much lower, going through a kitchen wall and into the living room where Corey said Gray and his boys were.

"The fact that nobody got hurt has to be balanced with the fact that someone could have gotten hurt," Corey said. "The kids being right next to him changed everything."

About four months after Alexander was released on bail, on orders to have no contact with Gray, she got into an altercation with him at his home that gave him a black eye, Corey said. Alexander was arrested and charged with battery, to which she pleaded no contest.

Corey said that Alexander's actions -- engaging with a man of whom she claimed to be deathly afraid, and assaulting him -- "didn't show much of her being remorseful" or "being a peaceful person."

"Everybody is still ignoring that she got out on bond and chose to go back over there and hit him a second time," Corey said. "That was kind of an indication of where putting her on probation, where you might have been able to do that before, was off the table since she disregarded a judges order."

Alexander's family said the second incident took place just days before her newborn would have been dropped off of her insurance, and that she went over to Gray's home to have him sign paperwork that would have kept the baby insured. The family say that he attacked her that night and provided HuffPost with her medical records, which show that she suffered minor scrapes and bruising on her face, hand and arm.

After the altercation, Alexander left Gray's house, and Gray called the police.

On Friday Corey's office provided a police report, photographs and a 911 call that counter Alexander's claims.

In the police report, Gray claimed that Alexander came over to drop off their daughter, and that when he rebuffed Alexander's request to spend the night, she "became enraged and began striking him on the face." Gray said he raised his hands, the report continues, and he yelled out to his sons to call the police. The responding officer wrote that Gray's children corroborated that account.

When the police contacted her an hour or so later, according to the report, she said she didn't understand why they were contacting her and that she had an "alibi." The police noted swelling and a cut under Gray's left eye and no visible injuries on Alexander. But on the way to the jail, Alexander said she felt light-headed and became unresponsive.

An officer then "observed that there was a small cut under the suspect's eye that was not there prior to her being placed in my back seat."

Alexander was rearrested that night and has remained in custody ever since

July 14, 2013
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So basically what you're saying PRJ, is that Lucem once again has not paid attention to any of the actual facts, and has gotten the case completely wrong because of that.

 

 

July 14, 2013
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Can anybody verify or find the police phone call? I heard that he actually called Treyvon a coon.

July 14, 2013
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July 14, 2013
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Post from the youtube video

Included in this video are 2 versions of the original recording of the 911 tape just released! The 1st version is the original. The 2nd recording I cleaned up the audio, enhanced the voices, and slowed down the pitch. The screams for help is either that of Trayvon Martin, or George Zimmerman. Not overtly positive but it appears that the voice is indeed that of Zimmerman.

Our attempt is to only gather the truth, we do not take sides, only to gather the facts, report, and share with the public.

You can hear the gun shot! Shocking audio footage! Compare for yourselves! We appreciate your feedback! Let's find out the truth!

July 14, 2013
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Lucem Ferre said

iLLtheClown said

No free for you. You pay.

He's from Austrailia, you don't have to promise him shit.

 

its ok, im used to politicians tryign to bend me over adn stick forgeign things in my anus. like boat people. julia gillard did it for years. least shes gone now though.

 

@prj, got the manuscript for that call? no speakers make novocaine something something.

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novocaine said

Lucem Ferre said

iLLtheClown said
No free for you. You pay.

He's from Austrailia, you don't have to promise him shit.

 

its ok, im used to politicians tryign to bend me over adn stick forgeign things in my anus. like boat people. julia gillard did it for years. least shes gone now though.

 

@prj, got the manuscript for that call? no speakers make novocaine something something.

I'll look for it give me some time

 

July 14, 2013
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all good dude.

if you cant find it ill peep it when i go home.

July 14, 2013
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RydaFoLife said

So basically what you're saying PRJ, is that Lucem once again has not paid attention to any of the actual facts, and has gotten the case completely wrong because of that.

 

 

No, I skimmed through the very first paragraph and made half assed judgements though, to be fair it's not really known whether it was out of fear or anger.

July 14, 2013
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Dispatcher

Sanford Police Department.

Zimmerman

Hey we've had some break-ins in my neighborhood, and there's a real suspicious guy, uh, it's Retreat View Circle, um, the best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle. This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about.

Dispatcher

OK, and this guy is he white, black, or hispanic?

Zimmerman

He looks black.

Dispatcher

Did you see what he was wearing?

Zimmerman

Yeah. A dark hoodie, like a grey hoodie, and either jeans or sweatpants and white tennis shoes. He's here now, he was just staring.

Dispatcher

OK, he's just walking around the area…

Zimmerman

looking at all the houses.

Dispatcher

OK…

Zimmerman

Now he's just staring at me.

Dispatcher

OK-you said it's 1111 Retreat View? Or 111?

Zimmerman

That's the clubhouse…

Dispatcher

That's the clubhouse, do you know what the-he's near the clubhouse right now?

Zimmerman

Yeah, now he's coming towards me.

Dispatcher

OK.

Zimmerman

He's got his hand in his waistband. And he's a black male.

Dispatcher

How old would you say he looks?

Zimmerman

He's got button on his shirt, late teens.

Dispatcher

Late teens. Ok.

Zimmerman

Somethings wrong with him. Yup, he's coming to check me out, he's got something in his hands, I don't know what his deal is.

Dispatcher

Just let me know if he does anything, ok?

Zimmerman

(unclear) See if you can get an officer over here.

Dispatcher

Yeah we've got someone on the way, just let me know if this guy does anything else.

Zimmerman

Okay. These (expletive) they always get away. Yep. When you come to the clubhouse you come straight in and make a left. Actually you would go past the clubhouse.

Dispatcher

So it's on the lefthand side from the clubhouse?

Zimmerman

No you go in straight through the entrance and then you make a left, uh, you go straight in, don't turn, and make a left. (expletive) he's running.

Dispatcher

He's running? Which way is he running?

Zimmerman

Down towards the other entrance to the neighborhood.

Dispatcher

Which entrance is that that he's heading towards?

Zimmerman

The back entrance…(expletive)(unclear)

Dispatcher

Are you following him?

Zimmerman

Yeah.

Dispatcher

Ok, we don't need you to do that.

Zimmerman

Ok.

Dispatcher

Alright sir what is your name?

Zimmerman

George…He ran.

Dispatcher

Alright George what's your last name?

A clicking or knocking sound can be heard here

Zimmerman

Zimmerman

Dispatcher

And George what's the phone number you're calling from?

Clicking or knocking sound is heard again

Zimmerman

[phone number removed]

Dispatcher

Alright George we do have them on the way. Do you want to meet with the officer when they get out there?

Zimmerman

Yeah.

Dispatcher

Alright, where you going to meet with them at?

 

Zimmerman

Um, if they come in through the, uh, (knocking sound) gate, tell them to go straight past the club house, and uh, (knocking sound) straight past the club house and make a left, and then they go past the mailboxes, that's my truck...[unintelligible]

Dispatcher

What address are you parked in front of?

Zimmerman

I don't know, it's a cut through so I don't know the address.

Dispatcher

Okay do you live in the area?

Zimmerman

Yeah, I...[unintelligible]

Dispatcher

What's your apartment number?

Zimmerman

It's a home it's [house number removed], (knocking sound) oh crap I don't want to give it all out, I don't know where this kid is.

Dispatcher

Okay do you want to just meet with them right near the mailboxes then?

Zimmerman

Yeah that's fine.

Dispatcher

Alright George, I'll let them know to meet you around there, okay?

Zimmerman

Actually could you have them, could you have them call me and I'll tell them where I'm at?

Dispatcher

Okay, yeah that's no problem.

Zimmerman

Should I give you my number or you got it?

Dispatcher

Yeah I got it [phone number removed]

Zimmerman

Yeah you got it.

Dispatcher

Okay no problem, I'll let them know to call you when you're in the area.

Zimmerman

Thanks.

Dispatcher

You're welcome.

 

Above was a transcription of Zimmerman’s call to 911 moments before he shot and killed Trayvon Martin. It was transcribed to the best of the transcriber’s abilities, and is not meant to replace any official transcript of the call.

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Here is a version with the time stamps added.

Zimmerman:

We’ve had some break-ins in my neighborhood and there’s a real suspicious guy. It’s Retreat View Circle. The best address I can give you is 111 Retreat View Circle.

This guy looks like he’s up to no good or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around looking about. [00:25]

911 dispatcher:

OK, is he White, Black, or Hispanic?

Zimmerman:

He looks black.

911 dispatcher:

Did you see what he was wearing?

Zimmerman:

Yeah, a dark hoodie like a gray hoodie. He wore jeans or sweat pants and white tennis shoes. He’s here now … he’s just staring. [00:42]

911 dispatcher:

He’s just walking around the area, the houses? OK.

Zimmerman:

Now he’s staring at me. [00:48]

911 dispatcher:

OK, you said that’s 1111 Retreat View or 111?

Zimmerman:

That’s the clubhouse.

911 dispatcher:

He’s near the clubhouse now?

Zimmerman:

Yeah, now he’s coming toward me. He’s got his hands in his waist band.

And he’s a black male.[1:03]

911 dispatcher:

How old would you say he is?

Zimmerman:

He’s got something on his shirt. About like his late teens.

911 dispatcher:

Late teens?

Zimmerman:

Uh, huh.

Something’s wrong with him. Yep, he’s coming to check me out.

He’s got something in his hands. I don’t know what his deal is. [01:20]

911 dispatcher:

Let me know if he does anything, OK?

Zimmerman:

OK.

911 dispatcher:

We’ve got him on the wire. Just let me know if this guy does anything else.

Zimmerman:

OK.

These @!$%#s. They always get away.

When you come to the clubhouse, you come straight in and you go left. Actually, you would go past the clubhouse. [1:39]

911 dispatcher:

OK, so it’s on the left hand side of the clubhouse?

Zimmerman:

Yeah. You go in straight through the entrance and then you would go left. You go straight in, don’t turn and make a left.

He’s running. [2:08]

911 dispatcher:

He’s running? Which way is he running?

Zimmerman:

Down toward the other entrance of the neighborhood. [2:14]

911 dispatcher:

OK, which entrance is that he’s headed towards?

Zimmerman:

The back entrance.

 ‘F-ing (inaudible) at 2:22]

911 dispatcher:

Are you following him? [2:24]

Zimmerman:

Yeah. [2:25]

911 dispatcher:

OK.

We don’t need you to do that. [2:26]

Zimmerman:

OK. [2:28]

911 dispatcher:

Alright, sir, what is your name? [2:34]

Zimmerman:

George. He ran.

911 dispatcher:

Alright, George, what’s your last name?

Zimmerman:

Zimmerman.

911 dispatcher:

What’s the phone number you’re calling from?

Zimmerman:

(redacted)

911 dispatcher:

Alright, George, we do have them on the way. Do you want to meet with the officer when they get out there?

Zimmerman:

Yeah.

911 dispatcher:

Alright, where are you going to meet with them at?

Zimmerman:

Um, if they come in through the gate, tell them to go straight past the clubhouse and, uh, straight past the clubhouse and make a left and then go past the mailboxes you’ll see my truck. [3:10]

911 dispatcher:

Alright, what address are you parked in front of? [3:21]

Zimmerman:

Um, I don’t know. It’s a cut-through so I don’t know the address. [3:25]

911 dispatcher:

OK, do you live in the area?

Zimmerman:

Yeah, yeah, I live here.

911 dispatcher:

OK, what’s your apartment number?

Zimmerman:

It’s a home. It’s 1950 – oh, crap, I don’t want to give it out – I don’t know where this kid is [inaudible] [3:40]

911 dispatcher:

OK, do you just want to meet with them at the mailboxes then? [3:42]

Zimmerman:

Yeah, that’s fine. [3:43]

911 dispatcher:

Alright, George, I’ll let them know you’ll meet them at …

Zimmerman:

Could you have them call me and I’ll tell them where I’m at? [3:49]

911 dispatcher:

OK, that’s no problem.

Zimmerman:

My number … you’ve got it?

911 dispatcher:

Yeah, I’ve got it. 

Zimmerman:

Yeah, you got it.

911 dispatcher:

OK, no problem. I’ll let them know to call you when they’re in the area. [4:02]

Zimmerman:

Thanks.

911 dispatcher:

You’re welcome.

Call ends 4:07

 

http://misterbillohno.newsvine.com/_news/2013/07/10/19392176-transcript-of-george-zimmerman-911-call

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Damn I put a watch tag on this when I was the second post...I dont wanna sift through pages and pages of bitching...so off it goes...

 

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RydaFoLife said

chieflocc said
I'm black so of course I'm pissed about it, but not surprised. If they find the boston bomber not guilty too though I'm moving to Australia. 

Please move to australia. You're the real problem if you're pissed about a not guilty man being not guilty just because you're black and so was the kid.  

 

Miami and Seminole/Sanford have moved to encrypted radios. I was listening to Seminole/Sanford for the last 3 hours before they encrypted it. Lots of shots fired and crowd dispersing going on. 

 

Chicago is up now. SHIT TONS of shots fired and crowd dispersing. Not sure if normal, but there's a couple reports of people being shot at while driving in chicago. Just some random acts of violence. The chatter has picked up on all stations at around 1AM EST. 

 

http://www.broadcastify.com/li.....ed/763/web

 

Seminole/Sanford not encrypted any more all of a sudden. Lots of constant chatter. Shots fired. 

 

http://www.broadcastify.com/li...../14479/web

@rydafolife Thanks for the broadcastify link those are entertaining as fuck as I play computer games...

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PRJ you are awesome. Seems to me like it wasn't racially motivated but ultimately the people who claimed he deserved to get shot for acting hard are full of fucking shit. Especially who ever it was that claimed he approached the car.

Like, the dude followed him and when he decided to run away Zimmerman ran after him. Treyvon whooping his ass could be taken completely as self defense in it's self.

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Lucem Ferre said
PRJ you are awesome.

Thank you

but also remember

Im fat and I'm Fats Pepper

This has been the Weekly Freekly Weekly, slapping the news upside your bitch asslaugh

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Lol.

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iLLtheClown said
iLLtheClown For President 2016.

Free Healthcare and Batman type people in every city.

 

 

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