But then if I thought you shooting the fuck was wrong then I also have the right to shoot you and walk away and the whole thing will go on and on.

It would just be an endless cycle of wrong.

Lucem Ferre said
It would just be an endless cycle of wrong.

Isn’t that how life works already?

Basically, except it’s more of a universal decision rather than an individual decision.

Like, I could accidentally let a fart slip out and somebody could just automatically decide that I’m deserving of an ass whooping and wallet jack because of it. Most people would agree that an accidental fart does not deserve an ass kicking and wallet jack, but that one person thought that the accidental fart called for an ass kicking and wallet jack.

On top of that emotions blur morality and perception. Somebody could accidentally hit your child in a car accident that they couldn’t prevent and your perception of it will change because of your emotions so in your mind you believe that it’s a moral obligation to avenge your child’s death and kill that driver. Then a family member of that driver you killed would see that as something wrong and feel that they have the right to take your life now and so on.

I think you said it yourself – Most will agree will each other on extreme examples like you made. You just gave a more psychologically detailed reason for what I was saying; People are fucked up….

The Greeks did this type of thinking thousands of years ago, and nothing has changed, morally. 

But not everybody agrees on morality.

We still live in a day and age where people believe that their religious beliefs make them more moral than other people.

What you were saying is that you should have the freedom to shoot people that you believe deserved to be shot. A huge chunk of the population believes that Obama, Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga, Lil’ Wayne, all juggalos, and the Kardashians deserve to be shot. A lot of times politics rule over a small groups reactions to crime rather than morality. A lot of crimes such as pedophilia, murder, and rape are not nearly as black and white as people want to believe they are. Murder in self defense is not the same as murder out of jealousy. Fucking a drunken slut who can’t control herself under the influence is not the same as forcing your penis inside of a screaming and kicking girl who begs you to stop. A 16 year old leading a 25 year old on and then using their age to black mail is not the same is a dude fucking a 5 year old. But a lot of people would see that as all the same. A beloved family member being killed in a fight might lead to some innocent man just defending him self to get shot. A reputable man’s slutty drunk daughter might lead to an innocent horny drunk dude getting shot. The teenage daughter in a highly respected family might lead to the murder of a man who met and fucked her at a party with out even knowing her age. Hell, if people see abortion as wrong then somebody could be killed over having an abortion. I one time was talking to a chick who thinks that swearing is wrong because it causes other people to kill themselves. If you think people should take justice into their own hands it would be pure chaos. It already is chaos, just not exactly pure chaos.

Lucem Ferre said
But not everybody agrees on morality.

 

We still live in a day and age where people believe that their religious beliefs make them more moral than other people.

 

What you were saying is that you should have the freedom to shoot people that you believe deserved to be shot. A huge chunk of the population believes that Obama, Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga, Lil’ Wayne, all juggalos, and the Kardashians deserve to be shot. A lot of times politics rule over a small groups reactions to crime rather than morality. A lot of crimes such as pedophilia, murder, and rape are not nearly as black and white as people want to believe they are. Murder in self defense is not the same as murder out of jealousy. Fucking a drunken slut who can’t control herself under the influence is not the same as forcing your penis inside of a screaming and kicking girl who begs you to stop. A 16 year old leading a 25 year old on and then using their age to black mail is not the same is a dude fucking a 5 year old. But a lot of people would see that as all the same. A beloved family member being killed in a fight might lead to some innocent man just defending him self to get shot. A reputable man’s slutty drunk daughter might lead to an innocent horny drunk dude getting shot. The teenage daughter in a highly respected family might lead to the murder of a man who met and fucked her at a party with out even knowing her age. Hell, if people see abortion as wrong then somebody could be killed over having an abortion. I one time was talking to a chick who thinks that swearing is wrong because it causes other people to kill themselves. If you think people should take justice into their own hands it would be pure chaos. It already is chaos, just not exactly pure chaos.

I’m feeling a lot of this. Fuck black & white .

“Upgrade to grey matter/ cus one day it may matter” – Del Tha Funky Homosapien

Lucem Ferre said
But not everybody agrees on morality.

 

We still live in a day and age where people believe that their religious beliefs make them more moral than other people.

 

What you were saying is that you should have the freedom to shoot people that you believe deserved to be shot. A huge chunk of the population believes that Obama, Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga, Lil’ Wayne, all juggalos, and the Kardashians deserve to be shot. A lot of times politics rule over a small groups reactions to crime rather than morality. A lot of crimes such as pedophilia, murder, and rape are not nearly as black and white as people want to believe they are. Murder in self defense is not the same as murder out of jealousy. Fucking a drunken slut who can’t control herself under the influence is not the same as forcing your penis inside of a screaming and kicking girl who begs you to stop. A 16 year old leading a 25 year old on and then using their age to black mail is not the same is a dude fucking a 5 year old. But a lot of people would see that as all the same. A beloved family member being killed in a fight might lead to some innocent man just defending him self to get shot. A reputable man’s slutty drunk daughter might lead to an innocent horny drunk dude getting shot. The teenage daughter in a highly respected family might lead to the murder of a man who met and fucked her at a party with out even knowing her age. Hell, if people see abortion as wrong then somebody could be killed over having an abortion. I one time was talking to a chick who thinks that swearing is wrong because it causes other people to kill themselves. If you think people should take justice into their own hands it would be pure chaos. It already is chaos, just not exactly pure chaos.

How does this take an opposite side of anything I’m saying in this convo?