1- In the example you provided, yes if that’s what someone want’s. can you really let them live trapped in a fleshy prison? 

2- In cases where it is a danger to the mother to go though with the pregnancy, yes. as a contraception? no, the spoiled dumb whore needs to learn about consequences.

3- Yes, but the bible states that all living things were put on the earth for man. do i feel bad for catching a fish, killing it, and eating it? no. i do this all summer long, but i make sure to never kill an animal just for the sake of killing it. and i try not to cause ANY unneeded pain to an animal. it dose make me sad to see them suffer.

4- YES!!! 

5- they should be proactive to the effect of putting more police on patrol and looking to prevent crimes and secretly infiltrate dangerous organizations that would cause harm to the rest of the public, all within the bounds of the Constitution and human rights.

stretchSquiggles said  
2- In cases where it is a danger to the mother to go though with the pregnancy, yes. as a contraception? no, the spoiled dumb whore needs to learn about consequences.

The problem with this is that the child, who did not in any way, shape or form ask to born, is the one who will suffer. They will more often than not turn into negligent, hateful human beings who take their rage out on their child. And why is a woman who gets knocked up a “Spoiled little whore?” If a girl loses her virginity and the condom breaks, she’s a whore who should be forced into motherhood when she herself feels she is not ready? There is so much wrong with your statement, grow up.

  

 

If that’s what you call successful protesting, starving to death and getting shot, why protest at all if this is to be considered “Successful?” And hippies during Nam didn’t do shit except take up space and smell up a lot of places that didn’t stink before they got there. Calling the kids who got drafted and had no choice but to go to war baby killers and spitting on them at airports. Also, check your history book LTB, the war did not end because of protestors. We pulled out of there, and no we should not have been there, but the protestors had absolutely nothing to do with it.

It’s common knowledge that public outcry and disapproval of the Vietnam war was a large factor in the way it was fought and its ending before North Vietnam surrendered. It wasn’t the only aspect. No doubt. But it made an impact, and that’s the point. Ghandi didnt starve to death btw. What did happen however is India got its independence without having to resort to violence. And Mandela didn’t get shot, but yeah MLK did. And you know what else they did? Started and played the deciding factor in winning the civil rights movements in their respective countries. Call that getting nothing accomplished, but I don’t see how

patjoyce said

stretchSquiggles said  
2- In cases where it is a danger to the mother to go though with the pregnancy, yes. as a contraception? no, the spoiled dumb whore needs to learn about consequences.

The problem with this is that the child, who did not in any way, shape or form ask to born, is the one who will suffer. They will more often than not turn into negligent, hateful human beings who take their rage out on their child. And why is a woman who gets knocked up a “Spoiled little whore?” If a girl loses her virginity and the condom breaks, she’s a whore who should be forced into motherhood when she herself feels she is not ready? There is so much wrong with your statement, grow up.

  

I’m talking about the ones who literally use abortion instead of all other forms of contraception. they don’t bother even attempting to avoid the pregnancy in the first place. there is no broken condom because there never was a condom in the fist place. i do understand there is no way to know the circumstances of the pregnancy so that’s why i’m “pro choice”. that’s just a reflection on what i think of the people i just described. accidents happen but when you have three or four abortions a year… that’s not an accident anymore. 

and Pat i do enjoy the challenging of my veiws, i really do. your a little hostile at times, but it’s fun to have to think :) 

stretchSquiggles said

patjoyce said

stretchSquiggles said . 

and Pat i do enjoy the challenging of my veiws, i really do. your a little hostile at times, but it’s fun to have to think :) 

Quoted and bolded for cosigment. nothin but love in this motherfucker. I love an intelligent conversation

how bout court ordered tube ties? :P and the same for all the guys out there with 7 children with 6 different women, they sit under the same umbrella of “stupid spoiled whore”

patjoyce said
I’m offended by people protesting the war in Iraq/Afghanistan. I know that the troops deployed there and protect our Country are the reason we all have the freedom to be ignorant assholes, and you seem to know this, but I doubt they ever really look at the bottom line there. Your brother may not be offended, and it’s great that he can laugh it off, but I know plenty of others who take offense, myself included, and I didn’t even serve.

That bolded part is my point. You shouldn’t speak for people when you can’t even relate. People have a right to get offended no more than people have a right to protest a war they disagree with. Iraq (post desert storm through present day, as desert storm we had a legitimate goal and undeniably righteous cause, fuck saddam!) and Afghanistan are our Nam. A bullshit war/set of wars no one really believes in but we fight anyway because that’s what we do. And I admire that. I admire those with the guts to speak put, and I admire those with the guts to fight it. You feel me? Your taking offense at protesters is no more justified than their offense at the sham of a war we’re fighting. Especially when all the enlisted men I’ve ever met, most especially the ones who have seen combat, give a fuck about the politics of It. For or against.

patjoyce said
I’m offended by people protesting the war in Iraq/Afghanistan. I know that the troops deployed there and protect our Country are the reason we all have the freedom to be ignorant assholes, and you seem to know this, but I doubt they ever really look at the bottom line there. Your brother may not be offended, and it’s great that he can laugh it off, but I know plenty of others who take offense, myself included, and I didn’t even serve.

I agree leave the brave men and women serving out of it. they joined up to protect your rights and keep your freedom. they have no control over where there sent or what there told to do. if your unhappy with the war point your shit storm towards the politicians who sent them there. and thank every single man or women in uniform for everything they have sacrificed, just to keep you safe, happy, and FREE.

patjoyce said

LTB said
It’s common knowledge that public outcry and disapproval of the Vietnam war was a large factor in the way it was fought and its ending before North Vietnam surrendered. It wasn’t the only aspect. No doubt. But it made an impact, and that’s the point. Ghandi didnt starve to death btw. What did happen however is India got its independence without having to resort to violence. And Mandela didn’t get shot, but yeah MLK did. And you know what else they did? Started and played the deciding factor in winning the civil rights movements in their respective countries. Call that getting nothing accomplished, but I don’t see how

MLK got the bone, I know Ghandi didn’t starve to death, but he did live in India, and that’s just as good as starving to death. But seriously, that’s a differnet Country, I’m talking about the protestors here. This is not India, they have reasons to protest, and problems that we don’t even wanna have to think about. Nelson Mandela, again, different Country, but he got imprisoned for how many years for his troubles? Maybe he should’ve just stayed home. My opinion, hardly seems worth it. Maybe I should have said protestors in this Country. Maybe we should look at all we have compared to other Countries and realize that we don’t really have anything to bitch about.

Blacks and women did. And blacks and women won their rights through years of suffering And protesting. Self sacrifice is a virtue pat. I guaran fucking tee MLK would take that bullet a million times over, as nelson mandela would serve a million life times in jail if it meant the freedom of their people. And by and large millions of american live in shitty conditions and starve every damn day. So no, not all of us, but a fair majority.