yaboiron said
hey @novocaine u must be mad stoked about the new news with hatchet gear huh?

of course i wanna pay for all my hatchet gear in euros! fuck that noise, wake me up when they put up a site in AUD and not filthy expensive european money. all of a sudden a tshirt goes from 22 AUD to 50 odd AUD. no, not stoked. ill keep buying from the american site until there is a .com.au site.

Yes, I , so inferior to children born to wealth and given all they could ever want off of old money. it's my fault my family faught for everything they had and their family hasnt worked an honest days work since great grand daddy found that oil well on some land he *borrowed* from a bunch of *savages*. I certainly was given every opportunity in my lower-middle class home as the likes of, say, Mitt  Romney (who im sure youre butt hurt over wasting a vote on) in his multi million dollar house. All seven of them. Of course I'm lazy for wanting a fair chance. Why should the top 1% share any of their inexhaustible wealth that could last their family of betters hundreds of years with an of us filthy 99%ers? Forgot the starving destitute children of our nation. theyre lazy little future criminals.   

Just to make it clear, this concept had very little to do with race, gender, or class.

Oh, and by stating that, LTB, you admit that we are not all equal and that some people need help just to get a fair chance in life.

Lucem Ferre said
Just to make it clear, this concept had very little to do with race, gender, or class.

Oh, and by stating that, LTB, you admit that we are not all equal and that some people need help just to get a fair chance in life.

correct, but a state of inequality doesnt make equality impossible. If society worked toward achieving it, it could very well be made into reality.

LTB said

Lucem Ferre said
Just to make it clear, this concept had very little to do with race, gender, or class.

Oh, and by stating that, LTB, you admit that we are not all equal and that some people need help just to get a fair chance in life.

correct, but a state of inequality doesnt make equality impossible. If society worked toward achieving it, it could very well be made into reality.

But it doesn't just apply to class. It's a very simple yet complicated concept. People are all different to an extent, we all have different tastes, different minds, different ideas, different short cummings, etc. People want different things out of life, if we are all equal then there are no losers or winners nobody is better than anybody at anything ever and we all get the same shit.

if you're talking equality in the purest sense of the term, yeah sure you're right. But common usage they way i've always heard or interpretted it is equal opportunity, the ability to go out and get yours. That's really what I'm arguing. just as iLL's post wasn't bashin. The concept of literal equality, it was taking half assed potshots at the less fortunate for wanting equal opportunities and rights. In my school of thought inequality stems largely from race, gender, and class. I'm a big supporter of social-conflict theory. 

LTB said

if you're talking equality in the purest sense of the term, yeah sure you're right. But common usage they way i've always heard or interpretted it is equal opportunity, the ability to go out and get yours. That's really what I'm arguing. just as iLL's post wasn't bashin. The concept of literal equality, it was taking half assed potshots at the less fortunate for wanting equal opportunities and rights. In my school of thought inequality stems largely from race, gender, and class. I'm a big supporter of social-conflict theory. 

Social conlict will always happen because people like to feel superior so they need a percieved inferior to do so. Just read what any troll says to people and even what people say in response to not only trolls but anybody who criticizes them. I try not to do the assuming bad shit about enemies because ultimately I shouldn't have to, I shouldn't need to believe people that I don't like are losers or failures to justify my existense.

Lucem Ferre said

LTB said

if you're talking equality in the purest sense of the term, yeah sure you're right. But common usage they way i've always heard or interpretted it is equal opportunity, the ability to go out and get yours. That's really what I'm arguing. just as iLL's post wasn't bashin. The concept of literal equality, it was taking half assed potshots at the less fortunate for wanting equal opportunities and rights. In my school of thought inequality stems largely from race, gender, and class. I'm a big supporter of social-conflict theory. 

Social conlict will always happen because people like to feel superior so they need a percieved inferior to do so. Just read what any troll says to people and even what people say in response to not only trolls but anybody who criticizes them. I try not to do the assuming bad shit about enemies because ultimately I shouldn't have to, I shouldn't need to believe people that I don't like are losers or failures to justify my existense.

Same here. Hence why I believe what I do, that being that everyone should be given a fair chance and a fair say. That's my concept of equality.

@ill - your still not talking about equality. its soemthing else entirely. your trying to compare a mountain to an anthill.

@lucem - i wasnt trying to diss homie, its more of a statement then anything else. call me simple, i dont mind. its a good life, i dont let shit sweat me. but then i dont have too.

@LTB - i am the same in regards to the cripple, i treat everyone one the same. i try to be a good person adn treat people well but i aint perfect. sometimes my ego gets the best of me adn i whole heartly apologise to anyone who is upset or offended by the things i say or do, buyt i will never change.

@topic - i do what i can for the less fortunate, i donate fresh produce to local soup kitchens, i paid for my lil sisters partner to get his truck liscense so he could get work. Also, australia is slowly heading that way with college degrees and shit like that, but the government tends to subsidize alot of that shit as tax right offs so it can be alot cheaper. mind it cost me about $4500 for my sisters partner to get his liscense with lessons and a MR ticket.

And i try to donate money, but i know how alot of these charities work and usually only 20 cents in a dollar will actually make it to whoever is supporting the charity. i donate a few thousand every year, but then i can also write it off for tax purposes so its all good.

novocaine said

LTB said

iLLtheClown said
See I didn't shit on those less fortunate. The equality believers are the quitters of the world. The people who failed just short of their goal because of the bump in the road.
 
 Also those who accept a predestined life but want equality because it sounds nice.
 
Equality is an impossible dream sought after by simple beings.

Give me more of a thought out response, something more than one vague sentence here and there. What's your definition of equality. Who are the "quitters" what's this insignificant "bump in the road"?

 

i think he is  just trying to elicit an angry response from people to prove he can troll people.

I hope not, I was genuinely hoping for something thought provoking.