A few days ago, the FBI published over 100 pages from their files that document their investigation into whether Juggalos should be classified as a gang. There is a lot of info that has been redacted, and about the first half of it is very repetitive. You can see it for yourself RIGHT HERE.
The Washington Times has broken it down and found one memo in the documents that states the following:
The Juggalos are a violent street gang whose membership follow a small niche of the rap scene, known as ‘horrorcore’
You can see the full breakdown from The Washington Times below.
From WashingtonTimes.com:
The FBI on Wednesday released a trove of records compiled by investigators prior to placing Juggalos, die-hard fans of the Insane Clown Posse rap group, on its 2011 National Gang Threat Assessment.
Consisting of over 100 pages’ worth of emails, memos and news reports, the records predate publication of the FBI report that described Juggalos as a “loosely-organized hybrid gang” — a label contested by ICP’s members and the subject of a lengthy federal court fight.
“The Juggalos are a violent street gang whose membership follow a small niche of the rap scene, known as ‘horrorcore,’” reads an FBI memo included in the dump. “The genre is mainly associated with Detroit artist Insane Clown Posse, but has spawned a host of imitators who excite crowds with musical horror stories in which murder, rape and suicide are recurrent themes.”
Dated March 15, 2011, the memo was issued by the FBI’s Salt Lake City office in tandem with the opening of a federal criminal enterprise investigation into Juggalos, according to the document:
“This enterprise Investigation seeks to examine the structure, scope and relationships pertaining to the captioned violent street gang; to identify members and the organizational structures of the gang; to identify relationships between the members of the gang; to identify all illegal activities which may constitute a pattern of racketeering activity conducted by individual gang members and groups of gang members and which may support prosecutions for federal violations.”
The FBI listed Juggalos in its annual National Gang Threat Assessment published eight months later, effectively placing ICP’s fans alongside members of the Bloods, Crips and MS-13. The American Civil Liberties Union sued the FBI in 2014 on behalf of four self-described Juggalos and ICP’s two members, Joseph Bruce and Joseph Utsler, but their efforts to have the gang label rescinded were ultimately rejected by a federal appeals court in December.
“The FBI received more than three FOIA requests for Insane Clown Posse material, and the documents were posted to the FBI Vault pursuant to FOIA public inspection requirements,” an FBI spokesperson told The Washington Times. “Specifically, the FOIA Improvement Act of 2016 requires agencies to make available for public inspection in an electronic format records that have been requested three or more times (known as the “Rule of 3”). Accordingly, the FBI posts such records to the FBI Vault.”
A media contact for ICP did not immediately return messages seeking comment. ICP previously said that the gang label “resulted in hundreds if not thousands of people subjected to various forms of discrimination, harassment and profiling simply for identifying as a Juggalo.”
Other documents included among the 121-pages published on the FBI’s website Wednesday include arrest reports and news articles from across the country detailing criminal cases against suspected Juggalos.
One of the earliest documents, dated June 24, 2008, showed the FBI was interested in that summer’s “Gathering of the Juggalos,” an annual festival organized by ICP every year since 2000.
“The fans of the group have been linked and are known to commit violent acts not only during concerts but at other times,” the document said. “Previous communications have documented the Juggalos as a legitimate gang with a large following. The fan base is known to number in the thousands and they follow the ICP in almost a religious manner.
“Juggalos are in a type of gang war in California with the MS-13 gang and are holding their own against them,” an unidentified source told law enforcement, according to the 2008 memo. “Juggalos are known to be present in all 50 states and numerous foreign countries.”
Faygoluvers Comments
Naptownjuggalo
Comment posted on Friday, July 13th, 2018 11:06 am GMT -5 at 11:06 am
Aw shit monoxide’s gonna have to light that blunt 500 more times in 3 mins and tell us that shit is fake. Damn
SPOOKYtheFUNGI
Comment posted on Friday, July 13th, 2018 11:23 am GMT -5 at 11:23 am
FUCK THE FBI
TheFuckingOGRE
Comment posted on Friday, July 13th, 2018 03:33 pm GMT -5 at 3:33 pm
Really!!??? A gang war with MS13? These guys are serious? Hahaha hahaha! And not only in a war with a violent multinational cartel of military trained killers but juggalos are holding their own? WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT!!?? Like for real!? Where do they get their info? Not only the fbi but the faggots that print this shit are out of their minds. I kick it with self described insane people all the time, but this has to be the definition of it here.
Juggalo Keselowski
Comment posted on Friday, July 13th, 2018 04:47 pm GMT -5 at 4:47 pm
Some highlights, on page 61 it says we also are responsible for child pornography. Fuckin’ really?!
Page 80 is mostly snarky bullshit.
112 & 113 will tell you the difference between ‘down’ juggalos and ‘Jeffahoes’ (whatever that means)
You could make a case for any group being a gang with this type of bullshit ‘intelligence’, it’s a 121 page craptacular flaming fuckfest.
Bonesaw Wizardstick
Comment posted on Friday, July 13th, 2018 10:53 pm GMT -5 at 10:53 pm
Welp. There it is in black and white. There is indeed a list with a hundred pages of “research” on it. The reasoning is bullshit and the research is middle school level at best, but it does exist. As a self proclaimed “twizzler,” I will concede that Madrox and Monoxide were wrong in saying that it never existed. I never denied that the list existed, but I did say that it was irrelevant even if it did. But I guess no matter how stupid the reasoning, exists is exists.
Cheshyr
Comment posted on Saturday, July 14th, 2018 10:16 am GMT -5 at 10:16 am
To quote Jeff Goldblum: “Well… Uhhh… There it is”.
Psy4Life
Comment posted on Saturday, July 14th, 2018 04:09 pm GMT -5 at 4:09 pm
Gang war with ms-13s? Lol. Thats crazy. That’s a straight up lie. We’re not at war with them. We’re not at war. With anyone except the FBI. These dudes make noo sense
vinyllover
Comment posted on Sunday, July 15th, 2018 12:36 am GMT -5 at 12:36 am
Can we stop being stupid about this ‘gang list’ please? Let’s use our brains. There is no federal gang list saying every Juggalo in 50 states is a suspect gang member that needs to be fired, thrown in jail and have their kids taken away from them. Smarten up and do some reading instead of regurgitation.
https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/general-discussion/cpn-is-still-an-idiot-who-doesnt-understand-the-fbi-gang-list
https://faygoluvers.net/v5/forum/general-discussion/so-if-juggalos-will-never-forgive-or-support-twiztid-again/
vinyllover
Comment posted on Sunday, July 15th, 2018 12:44 am GMT -5 at 12:44 am
Gang list is not even used by the FBI or any state or local police department. It is used by Juggalos to describe something that Twiztid admits exists but is not what people think it is. The 2011 document was an assessment that had to take a look at Juggalos due to what four states had done in terms of legally stating Juggalos were a gang in only those four states because of the semi serious crime going on. The FBI 2011 document does NOT state the following.
1. Every Juggalo in all 50 states is an actual or potential gang member.
2. Every Juggalo in all 50 states should be arrested and throw in jail for gang affiliation.
3. Every Juggalo in all 50 states should be fired from their jobs.
4. Every Juggalo in all 50 states should lose custody of their children, especially if during divorce court.
If the police start harrassing Juggalos because they are too fucking dumb to understand what the report is REALLY SAYING, then that is not the fault of the FBI. The ACLU lawyer tried to argue that the FBI should have have known cops would basically step out of line and break the law and harass law abiding juggalos by interfering with their constitutional rights, or even try to pin a false arrest on them. Both times, the judges said no, you have to blame the local and state police for fucking up and doing something that was NOT RECOMMENDED to do to Juggalos in the 2011 report. File a section 1983 lawsuit against corrupt harassment and get restitution. The 2011 report said Juggalos act like gang members but are not a real gang like MS-13. They are a de-centralized, semi independent “hybrid-gang.” The state and local authorities must deal with crimes according to their laws whether a person is a juggalo or not and then move on. THAT IS ALL. That is why Juggalos are NEVER MENTIONED in the 2013 or the 2015 NGIC report.
Cherryfuzz
Comment posted on Sunday, July 15th, 2018 11:00 am GMT -5 at 11:00 am
If ya nuts hang n u bang with a gang then tell me are you down wit the clown??! Ayyyy!
SNAPZ
Comment posted on Monday, July 16th, 2018 12:46 pm GMT -5 at 12:46 pm
CUNTS!!! FUCK THE FBI, SUPPOSED TO INVESTIGATE SHIT NOT COVER THINGS UP AND MAKE UP STORIES! WASTES! DRAIN THE SWAMP! JUGGALO FOR LIFE! ALL CAPS FOR LIFE!
MisterMime
Comment posted on Saturday, July 21st, 2018 01:06 am GMT -5 at 1:06 am
They are literally neo nazis under a different name. If a group of individuals support anti racism and the degration of rebel flags then they would try to demonize whoever within that group.
vinyllover
Comment posted on Tuesday, July 17th, 2018 04:41 am GMT -5 at 4:41 am
SNAPZ, I love your youtube videos and how you call out snowflakes, sjws and fake liberals, but I mean this seriously…did you also drink the CPN-CNN-Washington Times kool aid? The problem is not this FBI 2011 report that has been set aside by subsequent reports in 2013 and 2015 that DO NOT MENTION JUGGALOS. The problem is with the cops who abused the report and then blamed the FBI for their alleged harrassment of Juggalos. Please read those two topic I linked up. Take a day or two. Really thumb through every link I give and every video I embed. You may learn something.
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