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Should twiztid start their own label
December 27, 2012
11:10 pm
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Over the last few weeks like most off you I was wondering on what twiztid should do : start their own label or sign with another record label ( strange) and I at first thought they should sign with strange but now I want them to start their own record label. Think about it , they can finally be swk! Although that may require blaze to leave the label and I don't know if the roc would do it or not but if there is a time to do this shit its prolly now so I want to know if u want them to create or join?

December 27, 2012
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 I think we have pretty much exhausted this "Twiztid leaving" topic. Isn't much more to say. They will start their own label. They will kill shit. Everybody wins

December 28, 2012
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They should do their own thing. Signing with strange would be beyond stupid. I hope they do well and can sign a few dope artists of their own. I think eventually they will just come back to psychopathic.

December 28, 2012
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new label, new artists...I've seen people with less start labels, if Necro can do it, so can Twiztid...they just need that distribution, Maybe they'll get it threw Fontana, maybe not

December 28, 2012
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Yeah I'm interested who do they do sign if they stArt up the label. Perhaps the Roc that would be the shit

December 28, 2012
10:32 am
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Distribution isn't that big of a deal anymore. Nobody buys CDs lol. And Twiztid's own label will fail, just as ABKs did. They'll be crawlin back to PSY for help soon enough. They can be mad at the label all they want, but underneath it all, they need them to make it in the game. Just watch.

December 28, 2012
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I wouldn't  say nobody buys cds. I still do. Until they stop makin em.... I like to have something physical and tangible I can hold. Same thing with books, Nooks and kindles are way more convenient but id much rather hold a book in my hand and feel the pages.

 

I have a really good feeling your gonna be eating those words. They WILL NOT FAIL

December 28, 2012
12:15 pm
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You may be right, I was eating my words when they left in the first place haha

December 28, 2012
3:45 pm
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if twiztid signs with Strange Music, i think it would lead to some tension between Violent J and Strange Music. we might see them have some sorta business related beef. Strange has been gettin paid of their juggalo alegiance for years, yet we all know no one from the hatchet has been on a tech n9ne album ever. i think if twiztid signs with strange that would be the last straw and you would possibly see the underground split up, which i hope doesnt happen, but i cant see violent J being happy with strange music's mainstream successes and then stealing his best act on the label twiztid.

 

i remember when three six mafia wanted to sign twiztid back in the early 2000s after their appearance on "just anotha crazy click" and "itz goin down". twiztid turned down hypnotize minds, and three six mafia signed lil wyte to take the spot twiztid turned down. i think twiztid is either goin thru negotiations with strange and sub noize 2 see wat they can offer them, and if that falls thru, i think theyll go independent with their own label.

 

we all want twiztid to go on their own so we can get a HOK reunion and see them pick up some underrated underground acts. thats the dream rite now.

 

maybe if twiztid goes on their own they can re release HOK albums to start generating revenue, get the rights to their albums on the hatchet for more income to finance a new label. we need more twiztid videos, promo, and merch that psychopathic was lagging on for so many years.

 

we just have to wait and see wat kind of move they decide to make. its a very interesting time in the juggalo scene rite now, some people are givin twiztid props and some are just hating on them. but twiztid revamped the psychopathic brand after mostasteless was a hit and freekshow made them serious artists that can control their own projects. they used to open up for ICP for many years, then after freekshow we barely saw them touring with ICP. the label was split into two to expand the label as much as possible.

December 28, 2012
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Twiztid has not even sold a quarter million records if you add all their releases toghether

 

I'd say that's an old number.

Strange is crushing Psychopathic. That's why J's scrambling as much as he can to sell out and be accepted in the mainstream. Hiring PR to speak for them. Playing it as safe as he can and doing whatever the mainstream asks them to do thinking they'll be accepted. Realizing all the talent he had on the label are leaving because of his massive ego that holds everyone back while he cranks out hot garbage. Let's not forget the fans who are bailing in droves because of the garbage ICP's putting out. Doing anything he can to remain relevant. He's so out of touch with reality that he thinks the more ass he kisses, the more people will like them. Nothing would piss him off more inside than if Twiztid signed with Strange and got even bigger. Knowing how bad he blew it. I mean him watching Tech N9ne surpass them is driving him crazy already.  It's sad how much J has fallen off. But history always repeats itself. When one empire is the biggest and strongest, another one eventually comes along to crush it. As long as the world turns that's the way it goes. I wouldn't mind Twiztid signing with Strange or playing the field a bit. Do what they want for awhile and if it works out, they don't need anyone. And if they realize they need someone, they've been tight with Strange for years so it'll be an easy signing. They want to do acting as well and might try that out first before releasing another album anyway.

December 28, 2012
4:30 pm
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I really don't see them signing to strange...and what makes all these people think ICP kisses ass for mainstream attention?? Just because they actually make media appearances more often now? Y'all are dumb, they're just getting invited to do more things because they're looked at as cultural icons now (as they should). And it's free promotion so who wouldn't? You don't see twiztid doing appearances that much do they? No, cause the world could give a fuck less about two ICP clones, they want the real thing! Lmao!! And J ain't that worried I'm sure, that nigga is PAID!!! He gives no fucks, so they lost a little revenue, he don't care, money'll keep rollin into his pocket like nothin, meanwhile Twiztid will work they ass off makin less then they did at PSY...

December 28, 2012
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"I ain't a clone, im a frankentstein, created through the vision of a mastermind, this face, this soul, this rhyme is mine" Are you just trollin or a legit twiztid hater?????? It's not just the media attention but the way that they treat it. That fuck you attitude is now nowhere to be found.

And i've said it before but it's because of the whole FBI situation. So it really is understandable. It sucks though cuz I wan't the "You don't like us you can suck up on this dick" attitude of old.

 

You do have a point though. Dude is fucking mad rich

December 28, 2012
5:20 pm
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Troll or Twiztid hater? A lil of both if I'm gonna be honest. But yes, to the world they are clones. Those of us that take the time to know their music can say differently, but even then there is some truth to that statement. And yes, the clowns were the fuckin shit when they used to still play their gimmick during interviews, but that was 10-15 years ago lol. Plus I like seeing their real personalities. J is corny alot of times but shaggs is the fuckin man! He's the same guy with or without the makeup, real talk. And even if J is kinda retarded sometimes, I'm still fascinated hearing what he has to say.

December 28, 2012
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Their kiss ass attitude has been going on before the FBI thing though. Their message used to be about be you and fuck the world. Now their message is conform to the world and try to be accepted as much as possible. But what they're failing to realize is that never works and they're just playing themselves out. He might be rich but it won't mean anything when people stop caring about his label and their music due to all his bad decisions. Plus look at him. He's like 370 pounds and barely has a voice anymore while pushing 40. He doesn't even have a flow and can't move on stage. You think it's gonna last forever? Strange will take over Psychopathic like Psychopathic took over Reel Life back in the day. Egos and bad decisions never last. Psychopathic had a good run back in the day though. You're only lying to yourself if you don't see the writing on the wall.

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Well said. They're at least aware of who they are as well. But they also realize how talented they are and know they can do a lot more than what they've been doing. Unlike ICP who thinks they're going to be so accepted and loved that they're going to be a Vegas attraction. I'll continue to say Twiztid has the talent to keep doing it. They've already been doing it for 15 years. Until they show me otherwise, people need to realize if they were just ICP clones they wouldn't have lasted this long. Besides 99% of people admit they had the most talent on the label anyway. Listen to MDP and Abominationz. If one is just a clone of the other, you might need your hearing checked homie.

December 28, 2012
5:44 pm
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I don't know how anyone can say J is kissing mainstream ass lol. Way too funny....n lemme get this straight tech isn't? Look at anghellic or absolute power compared to his newer shit. He's ridin that lil wayne buzz as long as he can. Artists make their own decisions. Icp are fuckin ogs in this underground music shit and are fat paiiiid. Believe that! Twiztid NEEDS to try n do it on their own n get distribution. I see them coming back to psychopathic sooner then y'all think. Hatchetgear makes the dopest fuckin merch in music fuck what anyone says. Twiztid is n always will be the shit to me...but I think they will learn that the grass ain't always greener.THeir merch sales will suffer massively because I suspect it will be of much worse quality in norder to them to make good profit. And I'm almost positive they don't even have 1 gold selling record. Its gonna be hard to find good distribution for them. Not hatin on twiztid at all. Its just the way I see it.

December 28, 2012
5:50 pm
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Who gives a flying fuck what the rest of the world thinks really? Their music is totally really is a totally different beast. You ever notice shaggs doesn't do a whole lot of talkin in their interviews? I agree both are really fascinating to listen to gimmick or not

Really them doing mainstream interviews backfires on em. If you watch the nightline interview it's cut and edited to make them look like total fucking dumb asses.We know the full story cuz they have it posted on psychopathic video channel...

December 28, 2012
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I used to love listening to their interviews but J takes himself so seriously and thinks he's so awesome anymore that we're lucky to even get a hint of a joke from him. It's like he thinks he's a master teacher of the universe or some shit. Dude needs to lay off the drugs. It's funny because ICP were at their best when they used to brag about how bad they were. Now they brag about how good they are and they suck. Shaggy still says some funny shit.

Who gives a flying fuck what the rest of the world thinks really?

The problem is they really do :/. Earlier this year he was on Twitter crying about how they're not accepted and it's not fair why they're hated. It was funny because someone tweeted back a pic of one of their shirts that says "WORLDS MOST HATED BAND" in big ass letters. And even on their record he pretends to love that they're despised on the Tech song. They're so fake anymore lol. Twiztid is still Twiztid though. Quality music and entertaining in front of a camera. Hope they do more of that now that they're free.

December 28, 2012
6:17 pm
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Homisyde knows what he's talkin about. And your stupider then I thought if you think PSY and ICP are going anywhere. Put yourself in check son, strange music (aside from touring) is not as succesfull as PSY, not even close. They are a merchandise empire. Something I think 99% of ninjas don't understand is how secretive they are with how much exactly they make. Can't rap about being scrubs when they make seven figures a year on the regular.

December 28, 2012
7:33 pm
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yes twiztid will do there own thing. also they really wanna act and they need to seperate themselves from psychopathic in order to be taken seriously in the acting world. they will probably do there own distribution through online sales but who gives a fuck??? twiztid WILL NOT put out any bad quality products believe that.

the whole reason people get into music is to get known and paid. also icp deserve respect and when they dont get it im sure it upsets them. they are og's 20+ years in the game and still successful. quit fucking hating, the wicked clownz will never die. icp can rap about anything they want they clowns. rich, poor, whatever.  

December 28, 2012
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JuggaloJ said:

Homisyde knows what he's talkin about. And your stupider then I thought if you think PSY and ICP are going anywhere. Put yourself in check son, strange music (aside from touring) is not as succesfull as PSY, not even close. They are a merchandise empire. Something I think 99% of ninjas don't understand is how secretive they are with how much exactly they make. Can't rap about being scrubs when they make seven figures a year on the regular.

*"you're" as in "you are"

You can't call someone stupid and fuck that up. Also you admitted to being a troll so I don't know if you expect me to take you too seriously. We'll see where ICP and Psychopathic are within the next decade. I do hope they get it together and fix shit. I'm only going by what I'm seeing and what I'm seeing is a bunch of bad decisions and people leaving the label left and right. But I guess Myzery and Zug will save the label. No nobody cared about them the first time around. Vanilla Ice. There we go. They can't remain a merchandise empire forever with all their good artists leaving that people actually care about. Psychopathic nearly died years ago around 2005 when this same sort of thing happened so don't put all your faith in their everlasting success. Only difference is this time around their most talented artists left along with a huge chunk of their merchandise sales. Dark Lotus, Twiztid, Rydas, (Blaze). All out the window. ICP will remain as long as they want and so will the meat cleaver label on everything they do. But Psychopathic the thriving record label? Doubt it.

Since you're an expert on their finances, may as well post them for all to see. All I know is Strange also sells a shit load of merch. Love how you said "aside from touring" like it's some small thing to mention. If Twiztid signs with Strange, it won't even be close. Twiztid headlines their own tours. Also sell a shit load of merch.

Sorry chops but people who cry about respect, especially publicly, don't deserve it. Demanding respect is what douche bags and dictators do. And just really really insecure people who need acceptance from strangers. Speaking the truth isn't being a hater. And yes they will die along with everyone else lol. But word about Twiztid not putting out disappointing product. I imagine it'll be even better now with the handcuffs off.

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