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August 6, 2013
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He is like the Kanye West of horrorcore. He is pretty talented, and makes pretty good music when he tries (i.e. his pre psychopathic days) or someone keeps his ass in check (i.e. Psychopathic), but he’s batshit fucking insane, and that insanity along with his hubris make him do stupid shit that makes him look like a dumbass.
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12:58 am
July 15, 2012
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And violent j is rick ross
7:35 am
March 31, 2012
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let me preface this with im a huge esham mark/dickrider.. but imo esham is a genius when it comes to creating hip hop music.. who advanced & innovated at such a rapid pace that nowadays a lot of people dont feel his shit cuz its just on another stratosphere from what theyre used to.. but for those who can relate or those who take the time to study it can see the beauty & amazement in what hes done in the past as well as the present..
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The Warlock said
let me preface this with im a huge esham mark/dickrider.. but imo esham is a genius when it comes to creating hip hop music.. who advanced & innovated at such a rapid pace that nowadays a lot of people dont feel his shit cuz its just on another stratosphere from what theyre used to.. but for those who can relate or those who take the time to study it can see the beauty & amazement in what hes done in the past as well as the present..
No, just no. I admit he is talented, and he makes good music, but without someone to keep him in line he has gone off the deep end. Dissing almost EVERYONE around him and burning all of his bridges, STEALING from his fans by not sending merch they paid a lot of money for, doing shitty freestyles, recording them, and selling them. Putting out A LOT of music isn’t always a good thing. Esham is not as bad as a lot of people claim on here, but he sure as hell isn’t as amazing as you’re making him out to be.
Like I said, Kanye of Horrorcore.
“Yo, Taylor, I’m really happy for you, I’ma let you finish, but Beyoncé had one of the best videos of all time! One of the best videos of all time!” is extremely similar to “ICP, Eminem, and ANYONE else from detroit or who raps about spooky stuff on a song is biting off of me!”
You see how crazy that shit sounds? He’s crazy.
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March 31, 2012
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asides from mastamind esham’s never dissed anyone from his RLP crew.. so.. lol psy is everyone?
Pigg said:
“ICP, Eminem, and ANYONE else from detroit or who raps about spooky stuff on a song is biting off of me!”
yeah totally nuts.. super uncommon in hop hop.. i never heard any of the other innovators say similar shit……. haha
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The Warlock said
asides from mastamind esham’s never dissed anyone from his RLP crew.. so.. lol psy is everyone?
Pigg said:
“ICP, Eminem, and ANYONE else from detroit or who raps about spooky stuff on a song is biting off of me!”
yeah totally nuts.. super uncommon in hop hop.. i never heard any of the other innovators say similar shit……. haha
ALMOST everyone does not include everyone. Psy, Eminem, Like you said Mastamind.
You don’t see sugarhill gang saying everyone bit off of them and being bitter about it. He is a crazy old man and you know it. Why can’t you just admit it? It doesn’t affect the music at all.
12:25 pm
March 31, 2012
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well you highlighted EVERYONE haha.. plus you said around him.. im sure hes closer to his crew than a click of kids who were influenced by him..
& lol thats cuz sugarhill gang bit haha… what do you want me to admit? that he’s crazy? sure.. im sure hes fuckin nuts.. i dont know him.. i dont think im totally sane either.. you know what they say “there’s a thin line between crazy & genius” or somethin like that haha
3:15 pm
August 27, 2012
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Esham makes cents from me: when I mail him pennies.
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December 3, 2012
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This thread just wont be complete without a @patjoyce rant. Where you at (used to be)big homie?
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I thoiught E diss Mastamind before off of Godlike. Or was that TNT? “You don’t know me, got eat a fucking hoagie” was the line I think, something about the beef between RLP and D-12 when E and TNT got jumped. Mastamind was at Subway, or something. This could be just speculation, but something I heard. Also I thought N Of The World had some Mastamind disses in them too. Esham WAS the shit. Hes made shitty ‘business decisions’ if you wanna call it that. Still waiting on my shirt. I wouldn’t doubt if hes crazy, but he fucked up.
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November 30, 2012
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The Warlock said
let me preface this with im a huge esham mark/dickrider.. but imo esham is a genius when it comes to creating hip hop music.. who advanced & innovated at such a rapid pace that nowadays a lot of people dont feel his shit cuz its just on another stratosphere from what theyre used to.. but for those who can relate or those who take the time to study it can see the beauty & amazement in what hes done in the past as well as the present..
Shut the fuckin’ fuck up for fucks sake. Out of our stratospheres? No, he just sucks. His beats suck, his flow is laughable, and when he disses somebody you can’t even tell until someone points it out for everyone. That’s why he’s broke. If he was even half the genius you claim that he is he would still be relevant, but he isn’t. Dude fell the fuck off and hardly anybody buys his shit. He can’t even tour anymore, a tour for him is one show in Colorado. Why? Because he sucks. End of story.
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Pats gotta point kinda Warlock. Currently, E is on some other shit, and I don’t mean that in a good way. After Tongues, everything started going downhill. I feel like I’ve only mentioned this about 10 other times.
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March 31, 2012
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its all opinion & preference.. personally i dont rate tongues or repentance higher than his last 4 lp’s.. but ninjas seem to love those records.. theyre good but i think the new stuff’s better… its definitely different tho so i can see how people wouldnt fuck with it..
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January 27, 2014
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Has anybody here heard E’s verse on Bedlam’s “Enjoy Life?”
Seriously. That happened.
7:26 pm
March 31, 2012
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id also spit over that wack shit if they paid me :/
7:52 pm
January 27, 2014
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If somebody pays you to do a job, and you do a shit job on purpose…
Well, colour me old school, but I consider you to be a bit of a cunt. Not to mention an insult to your craft.
But then, considering he’s had verses just as fucking terrible on that “Secret Society Circus” album…maybe to him that verse was “groundbreaking” and “on another stratosphere.”
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July 15, 2011
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Nemo said
Has anybody here heard E’s verse on Bedlam’s “Enjoy Life?”
Seriously. That happened.
I don’t care how long ago this was recorded…Prozak needs to find Esham and beat his fucking ass for stealing his dough for this verse. Just godawful.
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August 12, 2012
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Damn, you know it’s big time when Mr.D drops in to give his opinion.
8:36 pm
August 27, 2012
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The Warlock said
let me preface this with im a huge esham mark/dickrider.. but imo esham is a genius when it comes to creating hip hop music.. who advanced & innovated at such a rapid pace that nowadays a lot of people dont feel his shit cuz its just on another stratosphere from what theyre used to.. but for those who can relate or those who take the time to study it can see the beauty & amazement in what hes done in the past as well as the present..
Im not trying to start an argument with you Warlock…Im genuinely curious What has he done that is the least bit ground breaking. You say he is so talented…but all Ive ever heard is him shit on tracks…Ive also seen him live half a dozen times and he blew ass…(Not my opinion btw, but the opinion of the guy at the gathering with a blow horn who was screaming this blows ass, Esham sucks now what happened on repeat)…is he in the depleted ozone part of the atmosphere is that what you mean?
"Somewhere theres a Waffle House thats severely understaffed right now" -OCJ to Scruffy watching a second stage act at the Gathering.
8:42 pm
March 31, 2012
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LuckyNumbrXIII said
Every good artist I’ve heard featured on someone else’s album has done their best to bring absolute fire to that album. Like, that’s your chance to reach more ears that might not have bought your shit. Why wouldn’t you go in there with your A-Game. They’re paying you money to do something that will benefit you in the long run. You’d gotta be an absolute idiot to fuck that up.
That said, Tongues and Acid Rain are phenomenal records.
acid rain’s terrible.. & i doubt many people bump bedlam yet dont know esham..
and imo esham’s weak verse was very adequate for a wack song from a offbeat prozak & generic horrorcore guy #284.. at least esham’s listen-to-able haha..
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