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"BIG THANGS" ESHAM ft. J. DILLA (OFFICIAL VIDEO)
June 13, 2012
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yeah anyone who considers icp legends & not esham is a moron theyd still be inner city posse wannabes brickin hookers if it wasnt for e 

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June 13, 2012
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Its like considering Snopp Dogg a legend but not Dr. Dre. Or considering Metallica legends but not Black Sabbath.

June 13, 2012
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lol exactly em's a legend but not proof lol its like wtf

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June 14, 2012
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If the influenced to paint the face thing is the only argument being made it proves he's not a legend. Em's a legend because few can touch him. Esham has been destroyed while living in NY in '91 he was continuously destroyed by rappers. Proof even destroyed throughout the mid 90's. There's a little tidbit that has been left out hell there was video of it but his little followers had it removed. Another thing 99% of you cunts wouldn't of known who Esham was it not for Icp. E has never been able to rap like a real legend has been able to. It comes down to ability.

June 14, 2012
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If this was a debate I wouldnt mind, but the only reason your refusing to consider Esham a legend only because you dont like him, thats the only real reason. Its like, back in the day, ICP use to be Inner City Posse & they werent tryin to do horror rap, they were tryin to do gangsta rap & thier shit use to sound way different. Then Esham & Natas came out & changes everytrhing, changes the whole sceen in Detroit. He was the first wicked shit artist outta Detroit, he was the one who first called it wicked shit, he was the first rapper to wear face paint & the first to wear it like a clown, that insipred ICP to change thier image, thier style, & thier name. They went from Inner City Posse, a gangster rap group, to Insane Clown Posse, and started doing the wicked shit. ICP would not have became the clowns & started doing wicked shit if it wasnt for Esham & Natas. They would still be doing gangster rap. Eminem has even admitted in a recent interview that he use to listen to Esham before he rapped. Its like your sayin “Esham isnt mainstream enought to be considered a legend”. Go look at any ICP interview where Esham is brought up, everytime they say if it wasnt for Esham, Insane Clown Posse would not exsit. If Insane Clown Posse didnt exsit, the word juggalo would have never been coined & we would not be here having this argument. Esham helped out with so much of this, I cant belive he dont get the respect he deserves. If you dont like his music, or even what hes been doing with all these youtube videos, if you dont like him, thats fine, then dont. But at least have respect for the man, for all he has done & contrbuted to this culture. I know a lot of people whould not know of Esha, if it wasnt for ICP, but the truth is, thier would be no Insane Clown Posse if it wasnt for Esham. You say you have respect for ICP & Eminem but none for Esham & that makes zero sence. These artists would either not exist or would have a completly different sound. Eminem's first album was pure hip hop, then he started getting darker & created the Slim Shady personna & put out the Slim Shady EP, he was paaing out fliers for the release party & the flier said ICP & Esham might show up. Esham inspired all of that outta Detroit & Michagan. ICP, Twiztid, Blaze, ABK, King Gordy, Eminem, D12, Bizarre, Dayton Family, Project Born, Prozak, Paradime, Joe Strange, DJ Clay, R.O.C., Lavel, F-Dux, V-Sinizter, Kid Rock even said that some of his “Devil Without A Cause” album was inspired by that Esham sound. He is a legend. Seriously, if you really do consider ICP legends, then Esham is automatically a legend, cause he inspired them, not just the face paint, but the clown image, wanting to start thier own record label, changing from gangster rap to wicked shit, calling it the wicked shit is all Esham inspired. Thiers no way to argue it, if ICP & Em are legends, Esham is automatically considerd a legend. Case closed & WHOOP WHOOP

June 14, 2012
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 

 

ZIP EM THE FUCK UP RAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

haha but yeah dont forget to add royce to that list of people who were inspired & psy have also stated they copied eshams blueprint with releasing EPs then LPs

 

& em & icp helped esham & proof gain popularity & helped put them on the map after they had national sucess around the late 90s early 2000s but both esham & proof helped em & icp in the local detroit scene so neither of them wouldve blown up in the 1st place if it werent for them originally gettin love in their local market

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June 14, 2012
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& yes esham can rap way better than shaggy & J (whose stole numerous esham lines over the years) please show me one cat from the 80s minus maybe rakim & kool g rap who was spittin more lyrical shit than esham did on tracks like my 9 rhymes, amen another sin or the recent MDMA 

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June 14, 2012
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Masta Ace, Big Daddy Kane, Scarface, Gza, Ice Cube, Krs-One and Gangstarr. All spit better than Esham. Esham & Natas created nothing. They contributed but created nothing. And the artists that actually got Eminem into rap was The Beastie Boys the artist that heavily inspired him was Masta Ace. In Detroit everybody influenced each other. Who's to say Esham didn't bite somebody elses style and claim it for his own wouldn't be the first he's done that. But wait we'rr talking about a dude who can't even create a metaphor or use a homonym properly. I guarantee there's an artist from LA or NY that actually created the style E supposedly created.

June 14, 2012
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yeah he uses no metaphors lmao you obviously dont know what that is if you think that lmao if you think cube or scarface are more lyrical you dont know shit about lyricism dawg please die slow

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June 14, 2012
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Deadly notorious, I`m poisonous, 

Ashes to ashes, and dust to dust. 

Dead men don`t sing, I bring terror like inhumane, 

It`s a pity the devil`s a human being. 

My music is underground, a spiritual sound, 

I got your head spinnin` like a merry go `round. 

 

yup no metaphors or multies in this lol scarface & cube was better in the 80s looooooool

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June 14, 2012
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You know nothing about hip hop or rap. I heard your shit you sound like 99% of the underground juggalo rap that acts new. Esham style was derived from The Geto Boys inparticular Scarface. You obviously fail at reading as I said he can't even create a metaphor or homonym properly.

June 14, 2012
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Homonym

June 14, 2012
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lmao yup i never heard someone who sounds like me but i sound just like em hahaha & i wasnt aware legends were using homonyms in the 80s lol @ postin a song from 2008 to prove your point that single syllable shit is wack esham had multies in the 80s so based off that alone e>>>>>>scar

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June 14, 2012
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you really think that ras joint's lyrical?? lol

 

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June 14, 2012
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You're an idiot. Your the biggest dick rider. You know shit and that proves it. Respect your elders little one your just lost on his dick. The second video is how to use a homonym properly and was released in '04. Post a song of E before '89 find one even the name of a song will suffice. Before '89 not his boomin words though it got rereleased in 1990 it don't count.

 

June 14, 2012
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i got respect for all the legends it doesnt change the fact using mostly single syllables in the current era is wack & lmao @ askin me to post a song from 89 when all youve done is post shit from the 2000s haha

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June 14, 2012
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I love videos but this shit is sad. Miracle was terrible. Dude was semi lyrical but the Rassy Kassy jawn was more lyrical that's 20+ years of hip hop knowledge speaking from my point of view. Esham isn't lyrical how you want to be him warlock. Darkseid you mad bro?

June 14, 2012
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lol @ semi-lyrical that shit must be flying over your head cuz that sean price joint isnt lyrical AT ALL loooool a few multies but thats it cmon son do you know what a homonym or metaphor is??? loooooooooooool

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June 14, 2012
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alright that was allot better still aint fuckin with miracle tho haha

 

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