12:21 am

March 31, 2012
1:11 am
March 31, 2012
E will never be a legend. Boomin' Words wasn't even wicked shit. It was just gangsta rap. But the references to the devil distinguish it from the rest get the fuck out of here. The Geto Boys, Gangsta Nip, Kool Keith they established it as something more. All three can be argued as having created it. A record centered on a horror theme means shit if 15 people do the same thing and do it better. The legends I listed innovated and raised the bar of the rap & sub-categories. E & Natas has done nothing to innovate or raise the bar. They will never be looked at as innovaters, creators or legends. Fuck what you think his career is dead his skill is dead. Gravediggaz did it better than Natas. I'm not a big fan of Kool Herc shoot me.
1:14 am
June 1, 2012
Thats why I always preach about not trash talking about something you dont like. Just because you dont like something dont mean it sucks, it means you dont like it. Thiers a difference between expressing an opinion & hateing. I dont talk shit about something if I dont like it, I just say I dont like it & everybody usally respects that. It sucks to see people argue over the internet over small shit like what music is good & whats not, because thats a matter of opinion. I dont like Lady Gaga or Bow Wow, but Im not gonna sit here & be like “Aw they suck dick, they aint shit” cause whats the point. gaga prolly makes more money in an hour then I will in my whole life & she has millions of fans around the world, me saying she sucks isnt going to stop that or make people start hateing her. I just dont pay attention to her, I keep up with what I like, if I dont like it, I dont pay attention. Whats funny is the other day when I posted my post about what I belive a juggalo is, you guys were argeeing with each other & had each others backs, now yall are arging over an artist & calling each other faggots & dick riders & haters, idk maybe yall are just playin with each other & I dont realise it, but if yall arent playing, then its kinda wack to see yall fight & bickor back & forth about 1 artists. I think we can establish that Warlock is an Esham fan & Ill is not an Esham fan, and nothing yall do or say is gonna change the others opinion. I think we can also establish that Warlock posted this video for Esham fans like me to enjoy, Ill, Im sure Warlock didnt see the video & think “Im gonna post that on FLH Fourm just to piss Ill off”
1:31 am

March 31, 2012
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March 31, 2012
3:26 am
June 1, 2012
Ill, I know about all that drama, Im a huge Esham fan, I keep up with him & all his music & youtube videos that he made & I think that shit sucks too, but its not my drama. I dont know ICP & Esham on a personal level, I just know them from interviews & thier music. I dont know Esham Smith, Joe Bruce or Joey Utlser, I only know Esham The Unholy, Violent J & Shaggy 2 Dope. I grew up listing to all of them & for me, it sucks to see them beef, I wish they would just squash shit because I personally think they make great music together.
5:25 am
Well IMO I think Esham is nice he’s had his low points but if anything sky and death of an indie were solid. I grew up listening to both icp and Esham it cuz of icp that I found Esham and it just been that way for years. Personally I wish they’d squash it to I love his eminent attacks but lay off icp if anyone should be together in the Detroit scene its them three right there. As far as dilla song this isn’t even an Esham beat its a dilla beat and it’s in homage to him and his death. Esham was asked to be apart of this because of his contributions and innovative music to Detroit, like slum villages dilla. I think champ town is even doing a DVD that has icp Esham kid cock and femmy on it talking bout Detroit hi hop and it’s true roots. Esham just caught a bad break but what you gonna do when ur alone?
4:15 pm
I see people on here defending this dude because he released a record that had horror themed throughout the whole record. He's not a creator. Geto Boys did a song in '87 if i'm correct about a ultraviolence. The shit this dude spit in that video was terrible. Analyze the rhymes compare to previous rhymes not his worst but far from his best as a matter of fact it could be his most diluted ever.
9:04 pm
June 1, 2012
Yeah I know Geto Boyz did some horrorcore style songs in the past, but I was saying Esham put out “Boomin Woods From Hell” in 89', its considered the first full length horrorcore/wicked shit album, I know thier was some songs before that, but Im talking a whole album. Hes not the creator, but he is a legend.
9:43 pm
June 1, 2012
Esham inspired ICP tho, ICP to this day say that, even tho Esham & Psychopathic dont get along. Esham inspired the whole wicked clown image with his EP entitled “Homey Dont Play”, were he was Homey Da Clown, on the cover he had his face painted, he coined the phrase “wicked shit”. He inspired ICP, Twiztid, D12, & many others from Detroit. If you dont like him thats cool, but he is a legend. Hes not as well knowen as ICP, but he helped create this culture as well. Same with Dayton Family, must dont realise that Dayon Family has been around sence before Twiztid was knowen as Twiztid. Dayton Family was one of the first groups outta Michagan to get signed to a nationwide record deal. Theve been around sence the early 90s, Esham has been around sence the late 80s. ICP became Insane Clown Posse in 91' or 92', Esham was featured as a guest artist on the song “Taste” off thier first album as the clowns “Carnival Of Carnage”. Esham & his group Natas help start that wicked shit movement in Detroit, he helped ICP start out, he was once signed to Psychopathic, he help start the juggalo movement, of course he didnt do it alone. I love both ICP & Esham & Im not taking sides in the beef thats going on. I wish it would just stop cause they make grat music together. Esham & Natas are legends, dosnt mean you have to like them, but they are legends.
10:05 pm
Afrika Bambata inspired hundreds to add funky shit to their music, Elvis literally inspired the rock pop, N.W.A. inspired Gangsta rap. All of them inspired hundreds of people all are legends because of the music. Esham started after the first horrorcore sounding track was released. He failed at it. I listen to Necro he does that horror/Death Rap shit and it's better. Brotha Lynch Hung does it better. They would be actual legends because they do it better. Esham lyrically hasn't earned that.
11:10 pm

March 31, 2012
11:14 pm
June 1, 2012
Like I said, y'all may not like Esham, & thats fine. But hes been around a long time & inspired a lot of shit. A lot of people including ICP, Twiztid, Prozak, Dayton Family, Eminem, they have all listed him as an insiration. Just because yall dont like him dosent mean hes not a legend. I can already see somebody comin back with “Well .R.A.M., just because you like Esham dosnt make him a legend” & I agree, I dont consider him a legend because I like him, I consider him a legend because its a fact that he is. He help start so much shit, its undenyable that hes a legend. If you dont like him cool, different strokes for different folks, but Esham is a legend. Im not gonna argue with anyone about it, Im not taking part in internet beefs or arguements. I respect the fact that yall have yalls opinions, & yall dont like Esham which is cool, his shit isnt for everyone. I admit I like his older stuff better then his new stuff. But he is a legend, like him or not.
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