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Tech N9ne: I Pioneered Touring for Indie Rappers
August 13, 2013
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Being as AA created ICP's blueprint and that Travis O'Guin created Tech's blueprint it is debatable on whether he stole it or not. IDK, maybe Tech did tour a lot before meeting ICP.

That statement is a flat out lie, he didn't pioneer shit.

Tech deserves to have an ego. He worked and still works his ass off to do what he does. He's not that egotistical. Hell, you fuckers all convince yourself that if it weren't for you there would be no Tech. That is egotistical. Juggalos made Tech? Tech really came from our culture? Juggalos, always trying to claim shit belongs to them. Yet how many of you get pissy when suicidalists say the same shit about ICP not being shit if it weren't for Esham? Fuck man. Juggalos are just a carbon copy of what they hate. (Most of them, not all, not stereotyping all of you because of one stupid lable) Dick riding artist idolizing trend slaves that hate others for not being like them. Juggalos thinking that they are so much more enlightened and free thinking is bullshit. How many juggalos paint their faces all the same and braid their hair just like clones? How many think you need to act or speak or look a certain way to be a juggalo? How many hate and despise anything that has something to do with "mainstream sheep"? How many juggalos blame everything on the younger kids? Fuck this culture, just like any other culture. Self righteous hypocrisy, everybody always needs to think they are above others in some way, and instead of earning egos some people like to use their race, culture, style, or taste in music to do it. Fuck people. Funny that a lot of people think they are better than me because I am a juggalo yet juggalos still look down on me because I like me some Kanye.

Oh, and I bet most of you would be egotistical too if you had accomplished what Tech had accomplished.

But in the end it doesn't really matter to me, I listen for the music.

August 13, 2013
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I find it's kind of fucked up but funny that Tech has worked so hard to carve out his "#1 independent rapper in the world" niche, and then Macklemore drops "Thrift Shop" and blows him out of the water. Honestly though, The Heist is a decent album and Ryan Lewis is a sick producer.

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piggofdoom said
I find it's kind of fucked up but funny that Tech has worked so hard to carve out his "#1 independent rapper in the world" niche, and then Macklemore drops "Thrift Shop" and blows him out of the water. Honestly though, The Heist is a decent album and Ryan Lewis is a sick producer.

i got allot of hate cuz i stated The Heist is an overall better record than any of ICP's haha apparently im not a juggalo cuz i like someone's album more than ICP's haha but yeah that shit's dope

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August 13, 2013
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The Warlock said

piggofdoom said
I find it's kind of fucked up but funny that Tech has worked so hard to carve out his "#1 independent rapper in the world" niche, and then Macklemore drops "Thrift Shop" and blows him out of the water. Honestly though, The Heist is a decent album and Ryan Lewis is a sick producer.

i got allot of hate cuz i stated The Heist is an overall better record than any of ICP's haha apparently im not a juggalo cuz i like someone's album more than ICP's haha but yeah that shit's dope

I am glad some of his more serious songs are getting play over Thrift Shop. Although since I don't listen to the radio, Thrift Shop isn't as over played and annoying to me as it probably is for others.

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haha same here.. although its already gotten old cuz its prob my least fav track on the album.. i dont really care for the bonus songs.. my oh my's the only one i dig

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August 13, 2013
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Lucem Ferre said

But in the end it doesn't really matter to me, I listen for the music.

 

I lol'd. Hard.

 

Also, the heist is a great album, but not better overall then any icp album.

this is all just the rantings of an egotistical basement rapper (Note: i didn't say indie/underground, because you aren't even on that level. you are on the basement level, and the only recognition you get is from like 4 dudes on this site saying they think its 'OK' and about 150 saying your garbage and should kill yourself. in saying that i still think your an 'OK' artist, but a long way from ever being considered a real artist.) who will most likely be a basement rapper for the rest of his days because his ego cant get up the stairs. you talk so critically about so many artists who are more talented and accomplished then you will ever hope to be. don't be so surprised when it bites you in the ass.

August 13, 2013
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No such thing as "real artists".

I said nothing critical about any artist except that Tech did not pioneer independent touring, which we all know is true.

I'd agree, I am a basement rapper.

Only 3 people have said I suck; twiztidaxxkilla whatever his name is, Ryda, and iLLtheClown who has actually given me props for the verse I wrote on the thread Warlock deleted and the beat with the gothic choir.

Nobody has told me to kill myself.

LBT is a fan, I guess. Pat thinks I make some dope beats. Sketches likes my beats. Scruffy said that I do have a touch of genius in my music. Warlock likes my beats. Slum likes my beats. As far as anybody else I don't know their opinions.

Oh, and reread what I said. I said one small critical thing about a statement that Tech said, the rest was all criticizing the fans. I do not criticize artists that much and definitely not anymore than the rest of you fucks do. The only time I ever remember just going off on an artist was The Jokerr and that's for the same shit ou are accusing me of doing.

To be honest, if I weren't so egotistical about my music I don't think I'd still be striving to do it at this point. My ego is what keeps me going.

August 13, 2013
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Oh, and even though Warlock annoys me with the whole "I know hip hop better than anybody else" shit and he has said that I have the worst voice in rap (which he admit to not remembering and it being in the heat of the moment) I still am one of the only people here who will give him credit where it is do.

But beyond that, did you ever check out that remix to Slacker? I dedicated it to you ;)

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August 13, 2013
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Outside of the internet only two people say I suck;

My skin head older brother who just likes to talk a lot of shit, though he did give me props for Suicidal Sickness

And my roomate who said I was actually good but too gimmicky for his taste and took it back when I told him that Garage Band (the stock mac program for production) sucked.

Most other people say that I'm good and I have inspired a few people to start writing lyrics.

Trust me, one day I will be known for my great music. That or a mass shooting.

August 13, 2013
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The akward moment when it hits me that you were probably talking about Warlock...

3 posts and a few hours later...

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Lucem Ferre said
Nobody has told me to kill myself.

kill yourself. haha

 

Lucem Ferre said
Oh, and even though Warlock annoys me with the whole "I know hip hop better than anybody else"

ive never stated that.. thats just the vibe people get from me for some reason..

and he has said that I have the worst voice in rap (which he admit to not remembering and it being in the heat of the moment) I still am one of the only people here who will give him credit where it is do.

i remember saying it however it was a heat of the moment thing cuz ive heard worse from more than a few cats.. & i def appreciate you keepin it real & givin props where its due..

 

i think novo's paragraph was aimed towards me.. even tho i never ranted it just seemed more applicable to me haha

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Lucem Ferre said
The akward moment when it hits me that you were probably talking about Warlock...

3 posts and a few hours later...

haha

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Lucem Ferre said
Outside of the internet only two people say I suck;

My skin head older brother who just likes to talk a lot of shit, though he did give me props for Suicidal Sickness

And my roomate who said I was actually good but too gimmicky for his taste and took it back when I told him that Garage Band (the stock mac program for production) sucked.

Most other people say that I'm good and I have inspired a few people to start writing lyrics.

Trust me, one day I will be known for my great music. That or a mass shooting.

i have inspired several people to start writing as well & only recieved negative feedback once in real life 10 yrs ago.. when i had only been rappin for a year..

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novocaine said

this is all just the rantings of an egotistical basement rapper (Note: i didn't say indie/underground, because you aren't even on that level. you are on the basement level, and the only recognition you get is from like 4 dudes on this site saying they think its 'OK' and about 150 saying your garbage and should kill yourself. in saying that i still think your an 'OK' artist, but a long way from ever being considered a real artist.) who will most likely be a basement rapper for the rest of his days because his ego cant get up the stairs. you talk so critically about so many artists who are more talented and accomplished then you will ever hope to be. don't be so surprised when it bites you in the ass.

lol i dont even know where this rant is comin from but asides from having confidence in my lyricism im not egotistical at all... and lol @ thinkin the only recognition ive got is from this site.. my music has almost 1,500 downloads.. you really think all of that is from this site?? haha i get some traffic from here but not allot.. i just state my opinion.. lyrically im more talented than allot of them youre right tho i prob wont accomplish as much as most of em.. i aint sweatin it.. like i said i just state my opinion like everyone else does yet why am i the only one chastised for doing so?? rarely do i even hate so i dont see why im not good enough to share my opinion..

 

my only conclusion is you ranted on me cuz youre butthurt about what i said about icp & macklemore which is pretty stupid.. just an opinion.. even you have to admit icp have several albums that cant be deemed as "great" so how are all better?? smh yo..  

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You're a useless coathanger with your messy broke hooks
And you have more generic lines than an empty note book
Your a vibrator bitch always getting so shook
About your weak voiced boring breathy flows, fuck

August 13, 2013
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So fuck your damn rhymes and your unfunny crap lines
You're just a fucking ass whipe that likes fucking ass whipes

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that was ass.. you rhymed shook with fuck.. kill yourself..

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You have a corny flow cause you're the great cornholio
Yelling "T.P. for my peepee" man you're fuckin' lonely bro
You say you take girls from their boy-friends though
The only thing you really take is their toilet rolls

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and their cordless phones!!

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Lucem Ferre said
The akward moment when it hits me that you were probably talking about Warlock...

3 posts and a few hours later...

i lol'd so hard i almost pooped a little. but yes it was aimed at warlock. i can honestly say out of the gothic choir beat i heard from you (which i liked) and the tech remix which i thought was rather nifty (and i generally hate remixes) i have never heard you rap and never really listened to your music. so i cannot judge you for how good or bad you are because i just am too lazy to go hunting for it. Warlock saturates us with his basement rap every time he scribbles 16 on the end of a toilet roll.

 

The Warlock said

novocaine said

this is all just the rantings of an egotistical basement rapper (Note: i didn't say indie/underground, because you aren't even on that level. you are on the basement level, and the only recognition you get is from like 4 dudes on this site saying they think its 'OK' and about 150 saying your garbage and should kill yourself. in saying that i still think your an 'OK' artist, but a long way from ever being considered a real artist.) who will most likely be a basement rapper for the rest of his days because his ego cant get up the stairs. you talk so critically about so many artists who are more talented and accomplished then you will ever hope to be. don't be so surprised when it bites you in the ass.

lol i dont even know where this rant is comin from but asides from having confidence in my lyricism im not egotistical at all... and lol @ thinkin the only recognition ive got is from this site.. my music has almost 1,500 downloads.. you really think all of that is from this site?? haha i get some traffic from here but not allot.. i just state my opinion.. lyrically im more talented than allot of them youre right tho i prob wont accomplish as much as most of em.. i aint sweatin it.. like i said i just state my opinion like everyone else does yet why am i the only one chastised for doing so?? rarely do i even hate so i dont see why im not good enough to share my opinion..

 

my only conclusion is you ranted on me cuz youre butthurt about what i said about icp & macklemore which is pretty stupid.. just an opinion.. even you have to admit icp have several albums that cant be deemed as "great" so how are all better?? smh yo..  

actually there is 2 reasons for my rant. and they are as follows, in this order of importance.

 

1 - dude, i have been on holidays for like 11 day, i have had no internet access to yell at anybody. i need to vent. its nothing personal, i still kinda dig your music. but spunkykilla, that guy is a complete retard.

 

2 - it wasn't particularly aimed at that single comment. it was sort of a generalization of the amalgamation of everything ive ever read from you which is an egotistical view of how you perceive yourself as a musician and a music critic. which most of the time, is wildly inaccurate, riddles with holes and only 2 bars above the intelligence level of Wonka69 (W/W ! or whatever the fuck it is he does). 

you talk about having over 1500 downloads, last thing i saw from you had like 20 downloads. so i dunno where your getting these numbers from or you have spent the last few months furiously downloading and deleting your own shit.

The reason why you generate so much hate for 'stating your opinion' is you talk about some of these artists like they are beneath your ability even though they have SOLD more then 1500 records (not given away for free). you hide behind this little facade of being a skilled artist on the same level as everyone else and reality will never set in that if you dont improve drastically, 1500 downloads will be your biggest claim to fame. when i am critical of someones music it is from my own perspective, not from that of a msucian point of view. i also dont care if people hate on my point of view, because your all just words on a forum.

 

Dont take it too personal warlock. im mostly just venting. but everything i said is actually true.

 

So fuck your smh. suck a dick.

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