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7:23 pm
August 27, 2012
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LuckyNumbrXIII said
Problem is people are guilty of the very thing they would accuse others of. Like you can’t call Jews cheapskates but it’s okay to call a Christian a “slave” stupid, uneducated, willfully ignorant. All that ridiculous shit.
If you go up and read he never said Chrstians are slaves…rather people who practise religion in general. He is still wrong and a little bit right in some circumstances. You are the only one to call Christians all that stuff…project much?
No. Everyone is capable of being a fucking idiot. Not all atheists are scientists. Hate to break it to ya. Not all theists are fools either. We’re just a community of people with the same theory of the afterlife. That’s all.
Waaah waaah wahhhhh
Im not a slave. I serve no mortal man. Never. And they don’t get my money. When I’m down in the dumps I RECEIVE collection money and don’t donate it. When I’m doing well I donate and someone in need receives it. It’s a fucking community of people. Not slaves. Don’t perpetuate that stupid shit any further than right here because it’s old. Anyone that buys that is an ignorant bastard.
"Somewhere theres a Waffle House thats severely understaffed right now" -OCJ to Scruffy watching a second stage act at the Gathering.
7:48 pm
March 7, 2014
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This is what I mean by slave. People create a god image in their mind that is basically a projection of their own consciousness. They give this god attributes and meaning and regard it as the truth because its god, they hold them selves responsible for acting accordingly with this god image that they created. When you get into religion you add the things they tell you is true into your GOD. What im saying is we are slaves to our minds and when we create a messed up image of god complete with restrictions and all that we have no choice but to follow. We are our own gods, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t a greater force, I believe the dark carnival is that greater force. Im not here to piss people of, this is why I hate communicating through texts, unless you can see my face and hear my tone of voice your gonna assume im tryna diss.
8:05 pm
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LuckyNumbrXIII said
The same is true for science in my experience. I see people make preconceived ideas of what is and what is not. They embellish everything that proves them right and ignore everything that proves them wrong.
Thisisnt occult. It’s just human nature.
That’s the exact opposite of how science is supposed to work.
8:07 pm
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Psyral Infection said
The definition of occult is not what it used to be. It originally just meant hidden. The medical community still uses the original definition as in occult blood which just means that it is present in amounts too small to be seen and can be detected only by chemical analysis or microscopic examination. The meaning has changed drastically due to incorrect usage by the public at large.This age of rapid information (mis-information) sharing is destroying original definitions. Examples: “rip songs”. The term is an acronym which originally meant Rasterized Image Processing – the method of turning an analog image into a digital form. Now people use it to mean turning sound into digital form but rIp inherently deals with Images. Another Example: Meme. A meme was not originally a picture with words on it or anything that becomes virally popular. It is a short form of memetic which is a theory of mental content based on an analogy with Darwinian evolution. The concept of agriculture was a meme. The idea spread because those who had the idea had increased odds of survivability and were more likely to have more offspring who could adopt the idea. A picture of a cat with funny words under it is in no way a meme. I doubt those “internet memes” increase the survival rate of anyone to further pass the idea.
Enough of my tangential rant… Back to the topic (kind of). What if my religion is the concept of the Dark Carnival? I would then not find ICP as Anti-Religious
Yay, linguistics! It would be interesting to study the internet’s effect on language.
8:16 pm
August 27, 2012
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piggofdoom said
LuckyNumbrXIII said
The same is true for science in my experience. I see people make preconceived ideas of what is and what is not. They embellish everything that proves them right and ignore everything that proves them wrong.
Thisisnt occult. It’s just human nature.
That’s the exact opposite of how science is supposed to work.
cosign. Im off to my cookout now no more puffery from this guy. I knew that wah wah wah bit would get you going too much not to reference it…so predictable lucky…I think you are a really smart guy who gets hung up sometimes on shit you can’t help but go on…its wrong of me to exploit it…but Im a dick. HAPPY NEW YEAR NINJAS
"Somewhere theres a Waffle House thats severely understaffed right now" -OCJ to Scruffy watching a second stage act at the Gathering.
8:19 pm
September 18, 2012
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Whutuptho said
This is what I mean by slave. People create a god image in their mind that is basically a projection of their own consciousness. They give this god attributes and meaning and regard it as the truth because its god, they hold them selves responsible for acting accordingly with this god image that they created. When you get into religion you add the things they tell you is true into your GOD. What im saying is we are slaves to our minds and when we create a messed up image of god complete with restrictions and all that we have no choice but to follow. We are our own gods, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t a greater force, I believe the dark carnival is that greater force. Im not here to piss people of, this is why I hate communicating through texts, unless you can see my face and hear my tone of voice your gonna assume im tryna diss.
Been saying this shit for a long time. If you can pick and choose what parts of the bible to follow then you are really just following the beliefs you’ve had deep down all along while attributing them to a god that is nothing more than a reflection of yourself. And the devil would be a reflection of everything you fear and hate.
Either way, yes, religious people are meant to act as slaves to their respective gods. You get rewarded with a heaven cookie if you’re good, and you get whipped with the hell whip if you’re bad.
And Occult means hidden or esoteric, not very well known. So back in the day Aliester Crowely used to practice things like yoga and meditation and it was considered occultism. That’s basically the difference between occultism and religion. One is a belief system, and the other is unknown shit. If you really think about it there is a lot of shit in the juggalo world that most people are ignorant of so icp sort of is occult. They are both occult and religious. But I don’t think they follow or preach Thelema or Satanism or anything. Violent J isn’t that smart, and I doubt he’d put that much effort into hiding this shit in his music. His religious beliefs were pretty obvious even with the wicked shit around it.
8:22 pm
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August 6, 2013
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Seriously, he mentioned more and more of it on every jokers card.
8:25 pm
September 18, 2012
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To be fair to Lucky, even though ignorantly dismissing evidence goes against science there are scientists that have done it. Though, many of those ‘scientists’ were usually hired by corporations to lie so they could make more money.
Most of those lying ‘scientists’ were actually theists. Filthy border hopping stinky crack headed job taking bean burrito making theists.
8:47 pm
September 18, 2012
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Where did OCJ mention me?
What the fuck did you redact about me OCJ you, little pussy? Started talking shit then backed away cause you knew I’d kick your fucking ass again, you cunt?
8:48 pm
September 18, 2012
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LuckyNumbrXIII said
Thank you.
You’re welcome.
8:52 pm
May 4, 2014
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LuckyNumbrXIII said
Nobody gets my point. As usual.
I think your point is not to generalize about any particular group; if profiling keeps increasing generalizations may get worse before they get better. ABK makes a good point:
‘I say fuck you! and offer no apologies
For my mythologies I be just how I be
And I be wicked too’
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1:11 am
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August 6, 2013
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I don’t think anyone is less intelligent because of what they believe. Honestly I don’t care until people start proselytizing to me.
10:03 am
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May 22, 2012
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i dont think anybody here said that science and religion are mutually exclusive. that mightve been what they were gettin at, but it wasnt exactly spelled out that way.
i dont believe that science and spiritualism are exclusive. extending that to religion [ie, formally structured doctrines, essentially prayer bureaucracies]… well, its still not exclusive, but religions by and large are clearly incentivized to not encourage skeptical investigation.
and lets face it, most religious figures have no idea what makes water boil, and can barely handle basic algebra. obviously, the jesuits place a lil more emphasis on actual education, but they are definitely the exception, not the rule.
spiritualists have taken the scientific approach to god many, many times in history. traditionally, it cost them, often it cost them everything. mainly, im talkin christians, here, but islam is quickly catchin up. if muslims dont get a handle on their prayer bureaucracy, theyll be kickin off their inquisition any day now.
sad, cuz it used to be that muslims were the about only ones lookin at god with a scientific eye.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
10:08 am
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August 6, 2013
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LuckyNumbrXIII said
piggofdoom said
I don’t think anyone is less intelligent because of what they believe. Honestly I don’t care until people start proselytizing to me.Well what if I told you that when someone tells me science and religion are mutually exclusive, I feel they are trying to convert me to atheism? Or at the very least trying to make me feel intellectually inferior based on something that nobody knows anything about? And by doing so, I automatically in my mind feel they are my intellectual inferior?
The idea of faith is contradictory to the scientific method. But, it’s not like you’re a biblical literalist. I really don’t give a fuck what you believe. Religion doesn’t make anyone stupider as a whole. A lot of times it can make people question certain things. I used to be extremely religious and everyone in my family still is. I don’t think my parents are stupid because they are religious. I do have trouble wrapping my brain around the idea that my cousin is a Biologist who doesn’t believe in evolution, but other than that, believe what you want man. Don’t let me or anyone else tell you otherwise, because in the end it doesn’t really matter what we say.
10:17 am
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May 22, 2012
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LuckyNumbrXIII said
You can’t honestly tell me that every time someone claims atheism, the first thing they do isn’t to start acting like they’re science buffs and that all religious people just blindly worship a “zombie” and are “cannibals” by consuming his body and blood, etc. It’s annoying as fuck.
im an atheist, and i dont do that. well, technically, im an agnostic, but i still dont do that, so no, not every time.
You don’t need someone to say it, they make the implication as soon as they even mention the two concepts (science and religion) in a discussion about theism/atheism.
or you make an inference. two-way street.
As soon as science comes up, I immediately disregard everything that person says.
how open-minded. rethink this policy, it makes you look like youre not following your own advice.
Because I don’t believe the two are at odds. Only if you take everything in the bible literally, in which case you’re an idiot. Because we’d all be born from incest, seeing as how God originally made only 2 humans.
well, yeah, thats a good starting point.
but im not concerned with that silliness. the people tryin to pass that off as reasonable dont need to be argued with, that sort of faith has flaws that are fully evident to everyone. themselves included.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
10:20 am
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February 15, 2014
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LuckyNumbrXIII said
Anyway, fuck this topic.
I don’t think ICP’s music is occult at all. And this dude ain’t telling us anything we didn’t already know from Violent J’s ramblings.
That sums it all up right there!
And I’ll throw something in too (kinda related, I guess):
“The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it’s the illusion of knowledge” – Stephen Hawkins
10:22 am
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May 22, 2012
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Psyral Infection said
And I’ll throw something in too (kinda related, I guess): “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it’s the illusion of knowledge” – Stephen Hawkins
hawking said that? i thought it was huxley or somebody.
anyway, its a fair point.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
10:29 am
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May 22, 2012
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if he had somethin better than that, hed be lookin at a nobel prize, at least.
it aint as if nobody ever looked into it before. the guy just doesnt read enough. i mean, outside of time-lifes mysteries of the unknown series.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
11:13 am
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August 6, 2013
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LuckyNumbrXIII said
scruffy said
As soon as science comes up, I immediately disregard everything that person says.
how open-minded. rethink this policy, it makes you look like youre not following your own advice.
Nope. If I say, “I believe in God and Heaven and the afterlife,” and someone says, “Well, then you don’t believe in [insert like a thousand scientifically proven theories about nature]?” I have to throw their whole argument in the toilet. Because it’s shit. I mean, do I go, “So, you believe in evolution? Do you also believe in [insert the trillion outdated scientific theories proven wrong today]?” No. It’s an awful argument. And I don’t like to take part in it. I feel the need to defend myself when it comes up, but I really just don’t want that shit to come up.
So unless this dude has better info than, “trust me, I been reading stuff for 3 years,” I think this topic is dead.
Religion and science aren’t mutually exclusive, but faith and science are.
11:37 am
May 4, 2014
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piggofdoom said
Religion and science aren’t mutually exclusive, but faith and science are.
The scientific method does seem to be a different language than faith. Maybe I’ll ride the zip-line course at the Creation Museum this year to test this hypothesis.
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