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September 12, 2012
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There is no icp when he left a few yrs ago things kinda went down hill The Wraiths were good i wonder what it be like if mike worked on them after that there was the calm and that sucked. So who would they get to replace him how you know if he's going to be better? 

September 12, 2012
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idk i think most people would say they went downhill when mike e came back. the wraiths were fresh & icp did the calm themselves supposedly. mike e started workin with them again after that tho from ftfo to now

 

but yeah i dont think anyone can replace mike e maybe fritz could or maybe they could bring mike p back for an album

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September 12, 2012
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I really feel like mike e clark is essential for icp's main albums nowadays. mike clark was gone from mid 2001-mid 2005 that is technically about 4 years. from forgotten freshness vol3 to forgotten freshness vol4. both shangri-la and hell's pit are the shit and i enjoy the calm but they each have there own sound, whereas clarks music all kinda vibes. u can almost play coc, beverly kills, ringmaster, etc..... and so on all the way to bizzar and jump to bang pow boom and keep going. the vibe doesnt change really. i think mike p should come back and do some tracks with psychopathic every once in a while, maybe with zug izland returning but i doubt it. i want mec to produce the next dark lotus even though opaque brotherhood is really really fucking good. fritz needs to return also, he did just do abk's perception vs reality ep which is good

September 12, 2012
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he needs to come back to zug

September 12, 2012
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Mec has been using softer sounds, i've been saying this for years. His guitars even got soft. I don't understand it either cause even after he left psy and did project deadman, those fuckin beats were dope.

 

The death pop was pretty damn good tho.

 

I think the line up should be

 

MEC / Mike P - ICP

Fritz - Twiztid/ABK/BLAZE

 

I'd like to see Mike p and Mike e in the studio working on the next album together, that'd be cool to see what they come up with.

September 12, 2012
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Mike Clark hmm his beats are getting old, he doesn't dj when he's behind the table and he needs to fuck with other people on Psychopathic. Maybe Twizzler or Killa idk but ICP needs other people working on their shit.

September 12, 2012
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i cant believe this is even an argument. back in 2001-2004 people would have been shocked. people were begging for mec to return, damn how things change. yeah i wanna hear an abk mec record, or twiztid and mike should do another album definitely...

September 12, 2012
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Give Joe Strange or Seven a whole ICP album to fuck with

September 12, 2012
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ICP without Mike E Clark was good but it wasn't pure. We can compare the ICP era without The Mad Scientist to the Bad Religion era without Brett Gurewitz. The sound was good but it was not what brought them to the dance. I don't think ICP could last without such a great mastermind like M.E.C behind the boards. I mean Clark has magic within his production and because of his history working with Kid Rock, Geoge Clinton, and Eazy-E. He can get anybody he wants to work with him. That's how he got Tim Armstrong of Rancid to contribute to "It's All Over" [Tidbit: Not many people know that but actually the guitars on the song was not Mike Clark or Legs Diamond. It was Tim Armstrong.]. Fritz and ROC should team up for a future Twiztid project or finally get that Zodiac Imprint album out finally.

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chops said:

i cant believe this is even an argument. back in 2001-2004 people would have been shocked. people were begging for mec to return, damn how things change. 

exactly

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September 12, 2012
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Killa-Mo187 said:

ICP without Mike E Clark was good but it wasn't pure. We can compare the ICP era without The Mad Scientist to the Bad Religion era without Brett Gurewitz. The sound was good but it was not what brought them to the dance. I don't think ICP could last without such a great mastermind like M.E.C behind the boards. I mean Clark has magic within his production and because of his history working with Kid Rock, Geoge Clinton, and Eazy-E. He can get anybody he wants to work with him. That's how he got Tim Armstrong of Rancid to contribute to "It's All Over" [Tidbit: Not many people know that but actually the guitars on the song was not Mike Clark or Legs Diamond. It was Tim Armstrong.]. Fritz and ROC should team up for a future Twiztid project or finally get that Zodiac Imprint album out finally.

WELL SAID!. I think MEC is a genius.  He can do anything. Loved the country beats he laid to Dox's shit. Mastermind

September 12, 2012
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MEC is the shit yes, but can they find someone better? Absolutely.

 

Fuck, ICP should shell out some cash and have Dr. Dre do a record for them.

September 12, 2012
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Icp made themselfss not mike e Clark he did beats and production that's like say tech wouldn't be where he is with out seven or eminem wouldn't be shit without dre. But lyrically they could make it with out them mike e Clark needs better beats most of em on mdpi was whack

September 12, 2012
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i.c.p. won't spend any cash !  

K R U S H - K I L L - D E S T R O Y !

September 12, 2012
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juggalizzo said:

Icp made themselfss not mike e Clark he did beats and production that's like say tech wouldn't be where he is with out seven or eminem wouldn't be shit without dre. But lyrically they could make it with out them mike e Clark needs better beats most of em on mdpi was whack

Dre dosent even produce half of his beats, hell he released songs from his fucking album that he didnt produce and that he didnt even have a verse on, Dr.Dre is the epitome of lazy

September 12, 2012
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juggalizzo said:

Icp made themselfss not mike e Clark he did beats and production that's like say tech wouldn't be where he is with out seven or eminem wouldn't be shit without dre. But lyrically they could make it with out them mike e Clark needs better beats most of em on mdpi was whack

he wouldnt lol sure he didnt need his beats after he blew up but without dre em wouldve never made it hence not being shit lol

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 smile

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September 12, 2012
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eminem would of made it no matter who his producer and beat maker was

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juggalizzo said:

eminem would of made it no matter who his producer and beat maker was

supposedly he was about to quit rappin right before he got signed cuz he hadnt got signed & wasnt makin any money

 

i mean yeah its hard to say someone that skilled wouldnt eventually get put on but it was definitely a very likely possibility tho

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eminem would not have made it without dre. dre didnt even produce most of slim shady. he promoted it and used his name to blow up em. did u forget eminem was like 28-29 when he signed with aftermath. he wouldnt be shiut without dre and tech wouldnt be shit without don juan on anghellic.come on man seven didnt show up for a while

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