Nope. Because I find parents who try to force their kids to be miniature versions of themselves to be absolutely cringe inducing.

Teach them morals, raise them to be kind, loving, intelligent, tolerant of others etc. But if they decide to live a completely different lifestyle from you? you've gotta just fucking accept that.

I'm a polyamorous, satanist, gun-owning, weed-smoking leftist. I don't care if my kids end up being any of those things. as long as at the end of the day they're good people, they can be whatever religion, political party, orientation or anything else they want.

Psyral & I have a daughter who's been to a few GOTJs with us (we've hit 9 in a row) and though she's not a Juggalo she realizes we work as a team. She plays her music & even gives me some as a gift, and we play ours & she mostly rolls her eyes at it. Parents can try to delegate what's appropriate for their children hoping they don't get scarred for life, but when it comes to ethical values I'd rather a child hear The Great Milenko album than a prosperity gospel sermon by a charlatan like Joel Osteen. Also, at Hogrock's GOTJs carnies sicced their little kids on people when they disregarded safety rules on the rides, so maybe that'll give u some idea about what a Juggalo can do with their kids:

Hmm... well, I'll play some ICP here and there in front of my kids, they don't care. They will just shout "language!!" whenever an obscenity is uttered, and they do this with anything (movies, songs, Kegan nonstop swearing on Mario Maker Mondays, and of course me)... they've seem me painted up several times throughout the years (used to paint up green clown paint at the dispensary every year and work all day) and are sort of aware that I attended many Gatherings and shows. But they don't seem to care, and they're both nearing 10 years old.

I don't try to push my music on them, but I do try to push music in general whenever I get the chance. I feel like it's important, don't ask me why. They love things as varied as Chuck Berry, Post Malone, No Doubt, Mungo Jerry, Aerosmith, Whitney Houston... you never really know what's going to stick within the filter of how kids enjoy music, but it is always fascinating to me. 

With help from the cat, of course, this is their favorite song and video

Anyway, our oldest is named Lotus, and once a younger Juggalo couple that we used to live near caught wind, we heard they started flipping out because they were going to name their kid that as a middle name. "They can't do that!!" they were said to shout. My homie set em straight by telling them that we had no idea they were choosing the same name we had planned for years, but anyway it illustrates a point of how dumb Juggalos can act. How petty and warped. How cringe. 

As far as would I allow them at a GOTJ? Absolutely, if not for people throwing shit. That's the only reason. All it takes is one scumbag throwing something at the wrong moment and your child is dead. And I would then be in jail for murdering the tosser. This is the same at most any concert, people just throw too much shit. I'll never understand it. There is a time and place but it's just too risky. 

I have little care about the lyrics. I'm willing to discuss them if asked, is my take. 

Where you at in Vermont, Stalkz?

Originally repping 607 upstate here (now one of the most dangerous areas in the country, glad we got out). Vermont is great so far. A lot more Trumpers here than I'd like but they're just louder. 

The plan for sales is almost certainly going to be this October for recreational. That's why I moved here, to start up my shop with my old Colorado connections. The county I live in won't allow recreational sales but I have plans for a spot nearby. 

Back to kids, I have no problem with swearing either. I wasn't allowed to say even mild stuff like "crap" or "shut up". One time I told my brother that Batman sucked and my dad punched me by the wood pile. Now my dad encourages the worst of the worst talk ever.

For real, that warmth of familiarity is there, despite the notoriety. We were based around Elmira (went to school there, tried to work, etc) but I was luckily living in the country 7 miles away. A completely different world. Long story short we grew up in a hunting shack then built our own house, and going to Elmira felt like how I would imagine someone from rural Georgia would visiting NYC for the first time. It was crazy back then, and super dangerous, but now it is much worse. So proud of my nieces and nephews doing their best to excel at college and music and such, trying to leave. I have friends who swear by staying for different reasons, some have the stupidest excuses though. Most are scared to leave.

The food speaks for itself. Goddamn its spectacular. I just made chicken spiedies with a jug of the spiedie sauce my father in law gave me. So tasty and nostalgic.

I could go on all day about that... but back to the kids, my daughters are making beats like we used to using Fruity Loops, but they have far more accessible programs now. Their music shits on a lot of the beats we used to make lol. I'm happy for them. Wish they had that in school when I was a chap. 

Old Mr Dangerous said
Originally repping 607 upstate here (now one of the most dangerous areas in the country, glad we got out). Vermont is great so far. A lot more Trumpers here than I'd like but they're just louder. 

The plan for sales is almost certainly going to be this October for recreational. That's why I moved here, to start up my shop with my old Colorado connections. The county I live in won't allow recreational sales but I have plans for a spot nearby. 

Back to kids, I have no problem with swearing either. I wasn't allowed to say even mild stuff like "crap" or "shut up". One time I told my brother that Batman sucked and my dad punched me by the wood pile. Now my dad encourages the worst of the worst talk ever.  

Well damn, I was not expecting to see this many people on this forum living in VT. I'm way up by the border in Orleans county. Nothing but the sticks out here

Old Mr Dangerous said

Fuckin A, man. Been here since late August. We've lived all over the lower 50. Well, a few places. NY, PA, NC, CO and VT. If it weren't for my usual uniquely odd ans horrible random luck, it would be all great so far. But we like VT a lot. Every place has its ups and downs, just gotta find our spot. 

Orleans County, eh? Is that near Willoughby Lake at all? We really want to camp there this summer.  

Yes, sir, that's the area. Its a nice area, I guess. Very picturesque. Just wish it weren't so empty . Glad you're enjoying the state so far, sorry about all the rednecks 

Neverthrive said

Yes, sir, that's the area. Its a nice area, I guess. Very picturesque. Just wish it weren't so empty . Glad you're enjoying the state so far, sorry about all the rednecks   

Yeah I've discovered that rednecks are everywhere. I'm technically a sort of hillbilly/thug hybrid myself, so I get them, I just don't agree with them (translation: they're wrong about almost everything).

802_WICKEDninja said
add one more WHOOP WHOOP. Born and raised Washington County. 802 love  

Wild stuff, homies! 

So this begs the question, I've been pondering this for months..

What are the biggest venues in the Vermont area? Like where do bands come to? Do we have to go hours outside of the state for the best shows, like Montreal, NYC, etc? Has anyone seen a wicked clown show in this state?

802_WICKEDninja said
Only real venue is Higher Ground in Burlington. I've only have known of one show, it was awesome wasn't packed felt really personal. I can't remember which tour it was it was like 10 11 years ago I believe lol. Wicked Clowns from Outer Space 2 was cancelled back in 2020. I drive to the Palladium, usually every time there's a good show. A couple good places in NH as well.  

They were scheduled to play higher ground in 2020, I pre-ordered tickets and shit. Then everything went to hell and the show was canceled. The venue never refunded my tickets, either, even after badgering their customer service about it. Bitches. 

Primus also played their last year I believe, wish I'd gone to that, too.