Noawareness said
I remember getting off a night shift and rushing home to sit on their website, refreshing the main page over and over for hours because they were releasing/leaking the first "single" from the Wraith, that day (when they used to say they'd do something and actually do it). 

Sat for hours man. I got so bored. Then it was there. Crossing Thy Bridge. Took me about 15 mins to download and I was fucking pissed. I can't even tell you how whack I thought that song was. Terrible choice for a first single/teaser. 

I quite like that song in the context of the album but back then I couldn't beleive what I was hearing. If I wasn't so deep into it, at that point, I would have been fully out.   

I keep thinking back to shaggy on cartoon nightmares (I'm sick of rock guitars always lacing our shit, we bout to get wicked for the 6th) and how pissed he must of been when J was in his Zug rockstar phase

I keep thinking back to shaggy on cartoon nightmares (I'm sick of rock guitars always lacing our shit, we bout to get wicked for the 6th) and how pissed he must of been when J was in his Zug rockstar phase  

Chances are J probably wrote that line.. And Hell's Pit is also the 6th so I guess he wasn't wrong. 

thatjuggal91 said
I can't remember which Pateron it was. But their was one were J talked about how he wishes their was a better way to describe the "Carnival is God's line.

That way their isn't a confusion with "man's vision of God" that's commonly taught. I remember they touched on how people thought they were becoming a Christian band.

 

I personally see the "God" they refer to in their music as a powerful explainable energy. It doesn't control us or dictate our future and choices. Whether we choose right or wrong is up to us.

 

I won't dive deep into my views of God. But I personally believe their is a higher power of sorts we can't understand. It's not limited to life on earth or humans.

 

I really loved that Pateron video Shaggy and Jumpsteady did on time and existence. That was a fucking fun trip.

 

Really makes me wonder if this may serve as a idea for the 2nd 6th. Something that watches over everything in time and space. I think they can take the carnival is God line further without retracting the message of The Wraith. Just dig deeper into it.  

They did that all by themselves by choosing to go the whole "heaven and hell" route. The whole architecture of the sixth was based in Christianity. 

I always tried to put the "god" thing to one side by thinking of it as a higher power thing then I'd saw them in an interview (can't remember who with) and the interviewer was like "so the whole thing is about Christianity?" And J was like "Yeah. It's like 2pac said, you gotta enter into someone's world to bring them into yours and save them".

Literally agreed it was about Christianity. Always found that weird.

I'm cool with it though. Fuck it. It's a good album from start to end and came around at a good time for me. 

clowntowns said

Chances are J probably wrote that line.. And Hell's Pit is also the 6th so I guess he wasn't wrong.   

Plenty of guitars on Hell's Pit, bro.

Noawareness said

Sat for hours man. I got so bored. Then it was there. Crossing Thy Bridge. Took me about 15 mins to download and I was fucking pissed. I can't even tell you how whack I thought that song was. Terrible choice for a first single/teaser. 

I quite like that song in the context of the album but back then I couldn't beleive what I was hearing. If I wasn't so deep into it, at that point, I would have been fully out.   

This!! I remember my sister driving me to the store to pick it up. So excited to hear it. The packaging was crazy but then I listened to it 👿

there is thousands of gods man they aint never said christianity 

thats gay as hell man it should be carnival god or some shit even odin would be better

Both of them state they're not Evangelicals at all. In this interview they're asked the question point blank and they both deny being Christians and in fact do claim they meant "god" in a general sense:

I think they're just not smart enough to be that semantic to both refute the specific Christianity part and still make their point...

They should of just stuck with the dark carnival is the place you go when you die, and various entities judge you for your life. I wonder if J had never smoked weed would it have been different to now

the carnival is not God only God is God

and may God bless you this holiday season