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Why is the Carnival God?
December 2, 2021
8:20 pm
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Noawareness said
I remember getting off a night shift and rushing home to sit on their website, refreshing the main page over and over for hours because they were releasing/leaking the first "single" from the Wraith, that day (when they used to say they'd do something and actually do it). 

Sat for hours man. I got so bored. Then it was there. Crossing Thy Bridge. Took me about 15 mins to download and I was fucking pissed. I can't even tell you how whack I thought that song was. Terrible choice for a first single/teaser. 

I quite like that song in the context of the album but back then I couldn't beleive what I was hearing. If I wasn't so deep into it, at that point, I would have been fully out.   

I keep thinking back to shaggy on cartoon nightmares (I'm sick of rock guitars always lacing our shit, we bout to get wicked for the 6th) and how pissed he must of been when J was in his Zug rockstar phase

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December 2, 2021
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I can't remember which Pateron it was. But their was one were J talked about how he wishes their was a better way to describe the "Carnival is God's line.

That way their isn't a confusion with "man's vision of God" that's commonly taught. I remember they touched on how people thought they were becoming a Christian band.

 

I personally see the "God" they refer to in their music as a powerful explainable energy. It doesn't control us or dictate our future and choices. Whether we choose right or wrong is up to us.

 

I won't dive deep into my views of God. But I personally believe their is a higher power of sorts we can't understand. It's not limited to life on earth or humans.

 

I really loved that Pateron video Shaggy and Jumpsteady did on time and existence. That was a fucking fun trip.

 

Really makes me wonder if this may serve as a idea for the 2nd 6th. Something that watches over everything in time and space. I think they can take the carnival is God line further without retracting the message of The Wraith. Just dig deeper into it.

December 3, 2021
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I keep thinking back to shaggy on cartoon nightmares (I'm sick of rock guitars always lacing our shit, we bout to get wicked for the 6th) and how pissed he must of been when J was in his Zug rockstar phase  

Chances are J probably wrote that line.. And Hell's Pit is also the 6th so I guess he wasn't wrong. 

December 3, 2021
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BZA said

I keep thinking back to shaggy on cartoon nightmares (I'm sick of rock guitars always lacing our shit, we bout to get wicked for the 6th) and how pissed he must of been when J was in his Zug rockstar phase  

Also...

I won't mix no rap with rock-n-roll
like somebody else I know.

J made him a hypocrite, man. Shameful.

December 3, 2021
11:47 am
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thatjuggal91 said
I can't remember which Pateron it was. But their was one were J talked about how he wishes their was a better way to describe the "Carnival is God's line.

That way their isn't a confusion with "man's vision of God" that's commonly taught. I remember they touched on how people thought they were becoming a Christian band.

 

I personally see the "God" they refer to in their music as a powerful explainable energy. It doesn't control us or dictate our future and choices. Whether we choose right or wrong is up to us.

 

I won't dive deep into my views of God. But I personally believe their is a higher power of sorts we can't understand. It's not limited to life on earth or humans.

 

I really loved that Pateron video Shaggy and Jumpsteady did on time and existence. That was a fucking fun trip.

 

Really makes me wonder if this may serve as a idea for the 2nd 6th. Something that watches over everything in time and space. I think they can take the carnival is God line further without retracting the message of The Wraith. Just dig deeper into it.  

They did that all by themselves by choosing to go the whole "heaven and hell" route. The whole architecture of the sixth was based in Christianity. 

I always tried to put the "god" thing to one side by thinking of it as a higher power thing then I'd saw them in an interview (can't remember who with) and the interviewer was like "so the whole thing is about Christianity?" And J was like "Yeah. It's like 2pac said, you gotta enter into someone's world to bring them into yours and save them".

Literally agreed it was about Christianity. Always found that weird.

I'm cool with it though. Fuck it. It's a good album from start to end and came around at a good time for me. 

 

clowntowns said

Chances are J probably wrote that line.. And Hell's Pit is also the 6th so I guess he wasn't wrong.   

Plenty of guitars on Hell's Pit, bro.

December 4, 2021
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I respect what y’all are saying but you can’t tell me J doesn’t sound like a God fearing bible thumper when he screams out “Truth is we follow GOD!!!” One of the few tracks I like off Shangri-La but far from a favorite.

December 4, 2021
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Noawareness said

Sat for hours man. I got so bored. Then it was there. Crossing Thy Bridge. Took me about 15 mins to download and I was fucking pissed. I can't even tell you how whack I thought that song was. Terrible choice for a first single/teaser. 

I quite like that song in the context of the album but back then I couldn't beleive what I was hearing. If I wasn't so deep into it, at that point, I would have been fully out.   

This!! I remember my sister driving me to the store to pick it up. So excited to hear it. The packaging was crazy but then I listened to it 👿

December 20, 2021
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The Carnival is God for the same reason J has a Jesus tattoo. Christianity is the primary influence of religion they've experienced, so even though they're not christians it's where their archetypes of religion come from. They created their own religion and it was ultimately influenced by what they were aware of, and as with most people, that influence is primarily Christianity.

They don't mean the Carnival is YHWH. They just have no concept of religious ideology outside of Christianity.

As a young Satanist it fucking PISSED ME OFF, but the non-religious songs were still incredible, and now looking back I'm not mad, it is what it is. And it was never a surprise. They thanked god first on every fuckin album they ever put out.

December 20, 2021
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there is thousands of gods man they aint never said christianity 

Noah Fence is a RACIST piece of shit and so are you if you support him. No excuses.

December 20, 2021
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randy gall said
there is thousands of gods man they aint never said christianity   

I've seen more than one interview where theyve specifically said they're about Christianity. Think one of them might have been that Ebro interview from a few years ago but they definitely specifically said their shit was about Christianity.

I remember it because I thought it was especially whack. Would have been better if it was just some non-specific god. Like "A higher power" shit.

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December 20, 2021
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thats gay as hell man it should be carnival god or some shit even odin would be better

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Noah Fence is a RACIST piece of shit and so are you if you support him. No excuses.

December 22, 2021
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randy gall said
thats gay as hell man it should be carnival god or some shit even odin would be better  

Since it's a made up religion I just keep pretending it's the one I liked and not what it ended up being 🤷

December 22, 2021
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Both of them state they're not Evangelicals at all. In this interview they're asked the question point blank and they both deny being Christians and in fact do claim they meant "god" in a general sense:

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December 22, 2021
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PrometheusComplex said
Both of them state they're not Evangelicals at all. In this interview they're asked the question point blank and they both deny being Christians and in fact do claim they meant "god" in a general sense:

  

Think it was the year before this, they did that Hot 97 interview where they speak on being about Christianity.

The guy said something like "so it turns out it's all about Christianity and God" and Violent J was like "Yeah. We've always been about it. It's like 2pac said, you've got to insert yourself into someones world to bring them out of it so we do songs about murder and death so we can bring people to the light..."

Not exact quotes.

Guess they're just confused about what they are.

December 22, 2021
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I think they're just not smart enough to be that semantic to both refute the specific Christianity part and still make their point...

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December 22, 2021
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Stalkz said
I think they're just not smart enough to be that semantic to both refute the specific Christianity part and still make their point...  

I buy that.

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December 22, 2021
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They should of just stuck with the dark carnival is the place you go when you die, and various entities judge you for your life. I wonder if J had never smoked weed would it have been different to now

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December 22, 2021
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cus the dude who created it says it is

December 22, 2021
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the carnival is not God only God is God

and may God bless you this holiday season

THE ALMIGHTY SMACK

December 22, 2021
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The Carnival is God

That's odd?

So what

It is

We ain't sorry if we tricked you

BIATCH!!

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