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February 21, 2014
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86 said
The fam isn't the same as it was back in the Shangri La days. 

and the fam in the shangrila days wasnt the same as it was before that.  life is water, not stone.  

  

I mean, this is such a shitty time to be a Juggalo. 

maybe for you.  

  

Too much shit talk, too many u nappreciative fans.

well, yeah, i supp-

the truth is they all backstab each other. And how J always seems to be involved somehow whenever negativity is unearthed. What kind of message does that send Juggalos? They preach family and unity, and then you discover they don't even practice what they preach? 

okay, now, im just confused.  

  

if 'practice what you preach' is a criterion for legitimacy, 86 just invalidated him/herself.  

  

  

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I think Alex Abbiss screwed a lotta people over, and Violent J is just playing defensively a lot now.  

Making music is fun, but if you wanna do it for a living, you really should listen to someone that knows how to.  Honestly, if I was on Psychopathic Records, I'd listen to Violent J.  If I left Psychopathic Records, I'd be on good terms, because you do NOT burn bridges.

I love ABK, but his shit outside Psy sounds very amateur.  Like unmastered tracks or something.

As for ICP being mostly J... yeah, that's how it's always been though.

13 makes a better point.  

  

violent j is the founder of the feast; you dont tell the guy at the head of the table how to be a host.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

February 21, 2014
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Unless ur just sittin at the table watchin this mufucker eat...He might throw u a crumb to keep u around'.But is that shit enough?Look at how they did Blaze...Twiztid had to threaten to leave just so J didnt boot him off psychopathic.THEN they shot down his last house on deadstreet record,Forced him to record over MEC beats,Probly spitting lyrics wrote by Violent J.Then put the dead street out as Gang Rags extened just to push that weak ass GR original album...And on the clockworkgray tour they coudnt even spring for a banner for his set.Blaze came outta pocket and dropped G's on one for himself...Id say psychopathic needs to take a page outta the "Not being a Dick" Handbook and read that shit.Its no wonder everyone split besides Hoodoo and Clay. Good thing ABK has Native funk or watever and AMB has Canonize to fall back on

February 21, 2014
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86 said
The fam isn't the same as it was back in the Shangri La days. 

and the fam in the shangrila days wasnt the same as it was before that.  life is water, not stone.  

  

I mean, this is such a shitty time to be a Juggalo. 

maybe for you.  

  

Too much shit talk, too many u nappreciative fans.

well, yeah, i supp-

the truth is they all backstab each other. And how J always seems to be involved somehow whenever negativity is unearthed. What kind of message does that send Juggalos? They preach family and unity, and then you discover they don't even practice what they preach? 

okay, now, im just confused.  

if 'practice what you preach' is a criterion for legitimacy, 86 just invalidated his/herself.

Wow scruffy, really? Was all that really necessary? Is that how you get your kicks by tearing people down and trying to belittle them online? Because i've seen you do it numerous times on here and Facebook. What is your problem? Oh let me guess, me right? Only you'll say it in a smartass way that makes you look super cool in front of everyone. sorry i dont meet your criteria for being perfect and flawless in any opinion i may have.god.

  

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February 21, 2014
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go through this thread and tell me which posts were 'necessary'.  

  

if you felt belittled, that says more about your state of mind, than it does my own.  

face it, what i said wasnt especially insensitive.  i just called the shot.  it wasnt my shot, was it?  and your shot didnt hit the bullseye, i dont think it even hit the 1 ring.  

 

i didnt have a 'problem' per se, not in this case.  certainly, not as many problems as youve spoken on.  youre tearing people down, right?  kicks notwithstanding.  the difference is, your tearing down people who arent around;  im tearing down a position, that being, how shitty it is to be a juggalo.  i disagree.  

and, it was a position that was expressed here, in the forum, where i live.  if you dont want to hear our opinions, thats fine, dont post yours.  otherwise, try not to be offended when someone reads it, thinks about it, and responds to it.  

 

you will note, if you are perceptive enough, that it was your criterion i was using.  not mine.  

further, it is definitely not you, personally, that i found imperfect and flawed, just the dreary [and rather pedestrian] point you were making.  once again, proving my theorem that americans [most people, really] think that being disagreed with is a grave insult.  

if youre gonna go on about lack of unity within the family, maybe you shouldnt be quite so divisive.  

  

im glad you think my words make me look super cool, though.  cant say i agree with that, either, but it does make me feel a little better.  

  

out of sheer curiosity, i gotta ask...  what did you say on facebook, that i tore you down over?  personally, facebook bugs the shit out of me;  compared to the forum, facebook is a daycare for lobotomized children.  

  

and incidentally, i get my kicks through drugs and sex, mainly.  neither have anything to do with the interweb.  

 

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

February 21, 2014
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scruffy said

if youre gonna go on about lack of unity within the family, maybe you shouldnt be quite so divisive.  

and incidentally, i get my kicks through drugs and sex, mainly.  neither have anything to do with the interweb.  

 

This I thought was nail on the head accurate.

This I just thought was worth repeating...I like coming here and all, but the real world is where its at...no porn could ever replace that sweet sweet box.

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February 21, 2014
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First off I don't have a Facebook. Any Facebook comments I see are above the comments section of faygoluvers members. And when I said this is a shitty time to be a Juggalo,  i was saying its a shitty time for us Juggalos because of the whole fbi business 

and getting the gathering booted out of Kaiser.  And please, like YOU haven't written anything bad about the fam . I''ll tell you one thing that spreads around a sense of detachment is people like you that claim to be a Juggalo but then try to make others juggalos look stupid because their views aren't equivalent to your own. All I'm saying is you could have responded a bit more respectful than you did but didn't. Yeah yeah it makes me sound like a whiney bitch let's just get that joke out of the way. And as far as not havingto post here, I will if I want to. YOU don't have to read MY comments.

 

Whatever. Whoop whoop. I'm out.

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February 21, 2014
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First off I don't have a Facebook. Any Facebook comments I see are above the comments section of faygoluvers members.

ah, i see.  good call.  

And please, like YOU haven't written anything bad about the fam . I''ll tell you one thing that spreads around a sense of detachment is people like you that claim to be a Juggalo but then try to make others juggalos look stupid because their views aren't equivalent to your own.

not because of unequal views, thats to be expected.  

because we, us juggalos, are stupid.  

All I'm saying is you could have responded a bit more respectful than you did but didn't. ... And as far as not havingto post here, I will if I want to. YOU don't have to read MY comments.  

i also couldve said, 'Ur a fukn dumazz jugaho!  MMFWMFCMFL!!!' or some shit, but i didnt.  i chose to go with what i actually think, not to simply insult.  

and i did not intend to imply that you shouldnt post in the forum, not at all.  instead, assume i said, in essence, the same thing you said about not reading comments.  

me, i read it all;  i cant imagine what anyone could say here that would affect me enough to cause me to skip reading their posts.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

February 21, 2014
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Scruffy just 86'ed 86! (Had to say it)

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February 22, 2014
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@86 , @scruffy is cool as hell and is one of the only people that doesn't insult people just to insult them. You just take a disagreement as an insult. It was slightly condescending, but that's how most people post on here and most are much much worse than Scruffy.

 

The only person that I can think of that Scruffy actually has ever attacked on here is @the-warlock and I'm not exactly sure why, but I am sure that Warlock instigated it.

 

And I totally agree, people do take disagreements as an insult. It's a global epidemic. I mean, it's not like you called you a fucking idiot or something, he just challenged your stance and you took it as an insult and if you felt it made you look stupid then it's because you looked at it and thought, "wow I look stupid".

 

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February 22, 2014
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Don't be fooled; Scruff is a bastard. He egg'd my Pound Puppies big wheel bike then hit on my mother while I watched and cried.

Man I'm hungover...

February 22, 2014
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Lucem Ferre said
@86 , @scruffy is cool as hell and is one of the only people that doesn't insult people just to insult them. You just take a disagreement as an insult. It was slightly condescending, but that's how most people post on here and most are much much worse than Scruffy.
 
The only person that I can think of that Scruffy actually has ever attacked on here is @the-warlock and I'm not exactly sure why, but I am sure that Warlock instigated it.
 
And I totally agree, people do take disagreements as an insult. It's a global epidemic. I mean, it's not like you called you a fucking idiot or something, he just challenged your stance and you took it as an insult and if you felt it made you look stupid then it's because you looked at it and thought, "wow I look stupid".    

more this, than anything malicious on my part.  

  

aint no thang, 86.  shake it off, rub some dirt in it.  

  

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Don't be fooled; Scruff is a bastard. He egg'd my Pound Puppies big wheel bike then hit on my mother while I watched and cried.  

i.  did.  not.  

well, i may have hucked eggs at your big wheel, that sounds like something i might have done.  

but im positive that i would never hit on any woman while her kid was crying nearby.  dealbreaker, as they say.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

February 22, 2014
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The family is only divided when division is considered. I know a few people around me locally that don't feel as confident in the family as others are. It happens in every family. There will be division and divorce. These forums are no different, and neither are the inner working of Psychopathic Records.

February 22, 2014
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ABK left during the time frame when AMB was signed for the first time after winning that contest. ABK got wind of their contract and he was like, "hey, why is their contract a hellova lot better than mine when they are only temporary artists on the label?" ABK's solo career and Label didn't take off as he hoped I bet. It seemed strong at first, he had artists and started selling his own "warrior" Merch. he wasn't a big enough name to carry his label, since I bet he didn't leave PSY. Records rich so it hurt him financially.  His tours and music production sucked. I feel as that, He basically begged to get back on PSY so he could make some cheddar. I think they let him sign with some of his own terms. He kept his native world inc. and sells Merch from the site, which I bet those clothes aren't flying off of the shelf. I notice he self promotes and works on an independent level at PSY, but sometimes they throw him a bone by letting DJ Clay join him for mini tours. 

 

On a different note, I bet VJ learned from Alex Abbis on the shadiness of the business and ran him out so they could prosper where double A was prospering from. I think VJ chose billy bill to be CEO so he could be the fall guy if they needed one.

I just wish the Don's of psychopathic was real. It was a great concept and us juggalos loved the idea. The different styles of their chains told which level they were on. I hate that shit wasn't real, just like the tooth fairy. 

February 22, 2014
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scruffy said

Lucem Ferre said
@86 , @scruffy is cool as hell and is one of the only people that doesn't insult people just to insult them. You just take a disagreement as an insult. It was slightly condescending, but that's how most people post on here and most are much much worse than Scruffy.
 
The only person that I can think of that Scruffy actually has ever attacked on here is @the-warlock and I'm not exactly sure why, but I am sure that Warlock instigated it.
 
And I totally agree, people do take disagreements as an insult. It's a global epidemic. I mean, it's not like you called you a fucking idiot or something, he just challenged your stance and you took it as an insult and if you felt it made you look stupid then it's because you looked at it and thought, "wow I look stupid".    

more this, than anything malicious on my part.  

  

aint no thang, 86.  shake it off, rub some dirt in it.  

  

Old Mr Dangerous said
Don't be fooled; Scruff is a bastard. He egg'd my Pound Puppies big wheel bike then hit on my mother while I watched and cried.  

i.  did.  not.  

well, i may have hucked eggs at your big wheel, that sounds like something i might have done.  

but im positive that i would never hit on any woman while her kid was crying nearby.  dealbreaker, as they say.  

  

Well it might've been someone else... all you Scruffs look the same to me.

For real tho, the most fun ever is removing the seat from your big wheel and riding it like a scooter down a country road . Those were the days as a Lil Ryda.

February 23, 2014
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Mr.Bitches said
Unless ur just sittin at the table watchin this mufucker eat...He might throw u a crumb to keep u around'.But is that shit enough?Look at how they did Blaze...Twiztid had to threaten to leave just so J didnt boot him off psychopathic.THEN they shot down his last house on deadstreet record,Forced him to record over MEC beats,Probly spitting lyrics wrote by Violent J.Then put the dead street out as Gang Rags extened just to push that weak ass GR original album...And on the clockworkgray tour they coudnt even spring for a banner for his set.Blaze came outta pocket and dropped G's on one for himself...Id say psychopathic needs to take a page outta the "Not being a Dick" Handbook and read that shit.Its no wonder everyone split besides Hoodoo and Clay. Good thing ABK has Native funk or watever and AMB has Canonize to fall back on

If we are to believe what j10 said on his faygoluvers article that faygoluver never posted, Blaze never even had a contract with Psy. Which seems like a stupid idea on his and Psy's part. Idk how that worked with righta and everything. At the same time, we don't see blaze chilling with j10 now that he left Psy, so maybe it was bullshit. The fact that J10 threatened Monoxide's kids, monoxide being one of blaze's closest friends, probably doesn't help much either.

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piggofdoom said

Mr.Bitches said
Unless ur just sittin at the table watchin this mufucker eat...He might throw u a crumb to keep u around'.But is that shit enough?Look at how they did Blaze...Twiztid had to threaten to leave just so J didnt boot him off psychopathic.THEN they shot down his last house on deadstreet record,Forced him to record over MEC beats,Probly spitting lyrics wrote by Violent J.Then put the dead street out as Gang Rags extened just to push that weak ass GR original album...And on the clockworkgray tour they coudnt even spring for a banner for his set.Blaze came outta pocket and dropped G's on one for himself...Id say psychopathic needs to take a page outta the "Not being a Dick" Handbook and read that shit.Its no wonder everyone split besides Hoodoo and Clay. Good thing ABK has Native funk or watever and AMB has Canonize to fall back on

If we are to believe what j10 said on his faygoluvers article that faygoluver never posted, Blaze never even had a contract with Psy. Which seems like a stupid idea on his and Psy's part. Idk how that worked with righta and everything. At the same time, we don't see blaze chilling with j10 now that he left Psy, so maybe it was bullshit. The fact that J10 threatened Monoxide's kids, monoxide being one of blaze's closest friends, probably doesn't help much either.

Threatened his kids?? Christ on a sandwich. Why did he do that? Don't tell me to listen to the interview lol I don't want to 

February 28, 2014
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I don't remember. It wasn't explicit, but everyone was beefing and he sent mono a text with his kids nicknames and nothing else. Which if I were a parent, I would perceive as a threat.

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Australians love white hip hop too, they support Necro pretty strongly

 

funny how ABK is back on Psy now though...

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Having D.J. Clay on a tour is not Psy. throwing you a bone! I remember some drama, back in the A.A. days was no one got paid for any sales in Australi Alex kept all the royalties 4 himself.

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Having D.J. Clay on a tour is not Psy. throwing you a bone! I remember some drama, back in the A.A. days was no one got paid for any sales in Australi Alex kept all the royalties 4 himself.

Did he take their kangaroo when he left too?

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