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July 17, 2012
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Why does it have to be compared to anything to be considered a classic? what have u put out?

July 17, 2012
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When AMB was on shows round here they were over like whoa.  Personally I thought everything they did was terrible but if enough other people like it then whatever.  I'm of the understanding that J has a real heavy influence on most if not all Psy albums so AMB leaving might have just been more them wanting to do their own thing.  They'll never be as successful without Psy backing them but whatever.

 

ABK has seemed to be overlooked since Dirty History.  I like his solo stuff but could do without him in Lotus & Rydas.  I'd like to see him get more of a push but I don't know that it would matter.  Seems like he's been around long enough that he's pretty much carved out his niche.  There was less than 100 people at the show he played in Louisville a couple months back so kinda surprised that he's still around really.

 

Faygo clearly has their shit together as they've been in business for 100yrs or something.  For Psy to buy them makes absolutely no sense unless Faygo should somehow wind up on the verge of bankruptcy and Psy wants to supply the money to keep them going but I imagine the music and beverage industries are quite different so I just don't see how them being in charge could benefit Faygo.

 

I would not pay to see a Sugar Slam sex tape myself but I would watch it on the internet for free.  I was surprised that Juggalettes Gone Wicked didn't work out when they tried that like 10yrs ago but it was probably some stupid shit like a girl smackin Rude Boy in the forehead with her tit which causes him to bleed then everyone sprays everyone with Faygo and fade to black.

 

I've been waiting on them to announce something about the 20th anniversary of Carnival of Carnage or even the 10th anniversary of Shangri-La.  I feel there's good money to be made off of these things and re-issuing them with some other stuff as collectibles.  Like pictures and videos of shit from those eras.  Maybe after Death Pop drops they'll focus on something like that.

 

New Lotus was supposed to drop at the Gathering this year but I guess that's not happening now.  There's only been a few songs on each album that I've liked other than Lotus Pod with Marz and would rather see ICP & Twiztid do some of their songs together besides fuckin Homies live more than new Lotus anyway.

 

I'd also really like to see a making of the Gathering dvd.  Like record some of the meetings and them trying to book people and setting up the venue and whatnot.  It's probably a lot less interesting than I think it would be though.

 

What they really need to do is lower their damn prices.  It's like $40 a ticket for an ICP show these days.  Then they want another 30 for a tshirt.  Still cheap compared to most well known artists who hit their prime a long time ago but a bit pricey for me.

July 17, 2012
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Why does it have to be compared to anything to be considered a classic? what have u put out?

The word classic means something that is a perfect example of a particular style, something of lasting worth or with a timeless quality. That's why it has to be compared to something to be a classic.

What I put out has nothing to do with this because I don't claim to be anything at all as far as classic goes.

For instance

Dr Dre The Chronic is a classic hip hop cd. It's pretty much perfect start to finish, and it introduced Snoop to the masses. If your telling me that AMB compares to something like The Chronic, or Wu Tang, or Nas ... I'd say your crazy. And not in the funny icp way .. In the you don't understand what your babbling about way.

I wouldn't even compare AMB to classic ICP albums. Riddle box ... Classic horrorcore. I know people who aren't even juggalos that have heard Chicken Huntin ...

I don't know anyone other than people on this board that could name an AMB track let alone album. Far from classic. I'd even take mosttasteless as a classic. But AMB ... Fuck outta here with that noise.

July 17, 2012
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yeah it might be a bit too early to consider gods hand to be a classic if you want to consider it that tho hey more power to you everyone has their own tastes i can definitely see how A FAN OF THEIRS would consider the unforgiven forest to be a classic 

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July 18, 2012
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The Warlock said:

yeah it might be a bit too early to consider gods hand to be a classic if you want to consider it that tho hey more power to you everyone has their own tastes i can definitely see how A FAN OF THEIRS would consider the unforgiven forest to be a classic 

NOTHING AMB ever put out will EVER be consdiered "classic material" lol 

July 18, 2012
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lol well thats your opinion but seeing as youre not a fan tho your opinion doesnt really matter 

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July 19, 2012
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1) i like abk, id like to see him get a push but honestly my favorite release of his was hatchet warrior. 

2) id love to see a new lotus...but like i said above my fav. lotus album was the og tales from the lotus pod w/ marz 

3) i say resign them...i think theyre good at what they do...people hate...but arent the creators of all the wicked shit the most hated band in the world anyways 

4) it would be fuckin epic...but if lo's are having trouble getting somewhere in the states that you can drive to...most aint making it to no island. 

5) im for it...but i wasnt a big fan of the first one 

6) not a bad idea...maybe not the whole catalog but what if each month they brought back some old school flavor 

7) why not they will make some money...i wouldnt buy it but hey 

8) i dont know about buying faygo...they should get their own flavor or something tho...show some mutual respect faygo 

9) ehh i could care less and as a consumer that kinda say it 

10) get your paper boo-boo 

July 20, 2012
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How do you guys feel about the success they've had without your ideals. 

July 20, 2012
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1) They need to get some better producers. Some of their beats are just plain trash.  I've heard about 20 good beats in their last 4 or 5 cds combined.  Bizzar Bizar, Jeckel Brothers, Riddlebox shit.  I'm sorry but, their beats suck lately.

2) Take note of what Strange Music is doing.  Signing Stevie Stone, Prozak, and Brotha Lynch Hung and actually pushing their music.  Anytime some one from Strange drops a CD their ads are fucking everywhere.  Their promotion is second to none.  Sorry thats fact. Endless promotion.  Don't get me wrong PSY did great with inventing good indie promotion but, their new artists DO NOT get promo like Strange.  God, the Dayton Family actually did jam but, push them. More than showing up in some video.  Not once did I see a Dayton Family ad on HipHopDx, World Star Hip Hop.  Nothing.

3) I'm old so I have a soft spot for the Vanilla Ice's of the world. But, drop him. Drop ABK (one dope cd ever).  God don't resign AMB.  I've been listening to rap since 1985... I'm 37.  Them dudes are trash.  Sign some REAL rappers.  King Gordy would be a good choice.  Find MC Ren dust him off and push him.  Sign 2 Live Crew and have them do what they do.. Drop dirty rap music and promote it.  Bring back ROC and Esham.  Push them. Take them on tour with you.  Not send them out on tour where 200 people may or may not show up.  And get collabs for their other rappers.  I'm sorry but, ABK with Blaze is NOT what I mean.  DJ Clay with Twiztid... Nope.  Don't get me wrong.  Thats fine. But, if you want to promote your growing artists put them with other people NOT on your label.  Far as new talent sign Twisted Insane, KidCrusher and again push them. How the fuck Hopsin did not get snatched up I don't know.  Now, he don't need em. But, there is another Hopsin out there some where.. Find them.

4) Keep Twiztid happy.  The only act that can truely spit some dope rhymes.

5) Continue this Death Pop trend of collabing with well known artists.  The one thing I don't get about PSY fans is they do not accept any other artists.  I'm sorry but, without Ice Cube, NWA, and Geto Boys there are NO ICP.  These young juggalos need a rap history lesson.  Jesus, there are other GOOD artists out there.  Call up the Yelawolfs, B.I.G. Krit's, Snoop Dogg (again), Slaine, Necro, Bun B and do some jams.  But, do NOT include it as some sort of extra CD.  Make one fucking cd and put 3-5 collabs on there along with 10 other jams. 

6) Continue having the best live show of any rap act out there.  I've seen Snoop Dogg, House of Pain, KMK, and probably 20 other rap artists.  But, ICP I've seen 9 times.  Why?  Because they put on the best shows. 

7) Buying Faygo company? Wtf..... .... ...

July 20, 2012
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you lost me at sign Twisted Insane & KidCrusher 

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July 21, 2012
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Evil Empire 187 said:

1) They need to get some better producers. Some of their beats are just plain trash.  I've heard about 20 good beats in their last 4 or 5 cds combined.  Bizzar Bizar, Jeckel Brothers, Riddlebox shit.  I'm sorry but, their beats suck lately.

2) Take note of what Strange Music is doing.  Signing Stevie Stone, Prozak, and Brotha Lynch Hung and actually pushing their music.  Anytime some one from Strange drops a CD their ads are fucking everywhere.  Their promotion is second to none.  Sorry thats fact. Endless promotion.  Don't get me wrong PSY did great with inventing good indie promotion but, their new artists DO NOT get promo like Strange.  God, the Dayton Family actually did jam but, push them. More than showing up in some video.  Not once did I see a Dayton Family ad on HipHopDx, World Star Hip Hop.  Nothing.

3) I'm old so I have a soft spot for the Vanilla Ice's of the world. But, drop him. Drop ABK (one dope cd ever).  God don't resign AMB.  I've been listening to rap since 1985... I'm 37.  Them dudes are trash.  Sign some REAL rappers.  King Gordy would be a good choice.  Find MC Ren dust him off and push him.  Sign 2 Live Crew and have them do what they do.. Drop dirty rap music and promote it.  Bring back ROC and Esham.  Push them. Take them on tour with you.  Not send them out on tour where 200 people may or may not show up.  And get collabs for their other rappers.  I'm sorry but, ABK with Blaze is NOT what I mean.  DJ Clay with Twiztid... Nope.  Don't get me wrong.  Thats fine. But, if you want to promote your growing artists put them with other people NOT on your label.  Far as new talent sign Twisted Insane, KidCrusher and again push them. How the fuck Hopsin did not get snatched up I don't know.  Now, he don't need em. But, there is another Hopsin out there some where.. Find them.

4) Keep Twiztid happy.  The only act that can truely spit some dope rhymes.

5) Continue this Death Pop trend of collabing with well known artists.  The one thing I don't get about PSY fans is they do not accept any other artists.  I'm sorry but, without Ice Cube, NWA, and Geto Boys there are NO ICP.  These young juggalos need a rap history lesson.  Jesus, there are other GOOD artists out there.  Call up the Yelawolfs, B.I.G. Krit's, Snoop Dogg (again), Slaine, Necro, Bun B and do some jams.  But, do NOT include it as some sort of extra CD.  Make one fucking cd and put 3-5 collabs on there along with 10 other jams. 

6) Continue having the best live show of any rap act out there.  I've seen Snoop Dogg, House of Pain, KMK, and probably 20 other rap artists.  But, ICP I've seen 9 times.  Why?  Because they put on the best shows. 

7) Buying Faygo company? Wtf..... .... ...

 

 

you got some good points there

July 21, 2012
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ABK is on tour right now doing like 150 shows! with DJ Clay no less! He's getting his time, man and his following is growing for real with this tour. And yes NEW FUCKING LOTUS would be the shit! The MDP has kept ICP so busy, twiztid and blaze just finshed a huge tour, so I hope we'll have new Dark Lotus by the end of 2012.

A shit ton of throw back gear would be fresh as fuck.

Yo i'm pretty sure The Purple Show is available pretty easily on dvd, but how about some new Ashtrays & Action Figures? 

And we don't have to buy Faygo! Psy is synonymous with The Faygo brand already, fuck buying a new company!

 

Oh fuck #10 I literally lol'd.

July 22, 2012
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jaymaykay said:

ABK is on tour right now doing like 150 shows! with DJ Clay no less! He's getting his time, man and his following is growing for real with this tour. And yes NEW FUCKING LOTUS would be the shit! The MDP has kept ICP so busy, twiztid and blaze just finshed a huge tour, so I hope we'll have new Dark Lotus by the end of 2012.

A shit ton of throw back gear would be fresh as fuck.

Yo i'm pretty sure The Purple Show is available pretty easily on dvd, but how about some new Ashtrays & Action Figures? 

And we don't have to buy Faygo! Psy is synonymous with The Faygo brand already, fuck buying a new company!

 

Oh fuck #10 I literally lol'd.

 

not to menton that you can prolly watch the purple show episodes on youtube,,,be kinda pointless to re-release the DVD

July 22, 2012
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I remember when the current CEO used bust kids heads in for getting to wild at shows. With the quickness.

Funny you said this, I remember at gotj 03, Billy was driving this golf cart and this kid wouldn't move out of the road and billy yelled at him when he went by and the kid told him to fuck off and he stopped the cart, got off, and it got physical.  funniest shit I've seen.

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One thing I never wanna do, is piss off Billy Bill.

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July 22, 2012
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iLLtheClown said:

What I want to know is why is there a thread saying "What Psy needs to do"? So everybody saying this is what Psychopathic needs to do has ran a major independent record label? I want to know who these people are coming up with these needs are? Probably three or four year old Juggalos, not age wise but down time and an off season for every KMK or Tech N9ne release. All these young cats just need to know Psychopathic has been running their label for 20+ years and they're still around still doing them. And they haven't had to shut their doors and sign with a separate label like Escam did.

PERFECTLY well said. 100% agreed.

July 22, 2012
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BBA....BRING BACK ALEX 

 

BEST IDEA IVE HEARD YET 

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WKarnie66 said:

MmmmBrainz said:

I remember when the current CEO used bust kids heads in for getting to wild at shows. With the quickness.

Funny you said this, I remember at gotj 03, Billy was driving this golf cart and this kid wouldn't move out of the road and billy yelled at him when he went by and the kid told him to fuck off and he stopped the cart, got off, and it got physical.  funniest shit I've seen.

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i saw precisely the same thing in '08.  precisely.

kinda felt bad for the guy, but he bit off more than he could chew.

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

July 23, 2012
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What they should do is get tom dubb off his little ass and buy back his share of the hok stuff so they can rerelease it that shit was sick back in the day as far as a new group fuck myzery isnt it one cd flopped horribly bad because he wouldnt change his shit up juggalos did not respond to what he was spitting i think they shouldnt have let dayton family go i live next to flint which is where their from shit whats on my mind from i think 94-95 true banger they shouldve given them more time to pollish up. and as far as someone that hasnt been signed deffinently eminem jk the world would implode before that happened lol mcl

July 23, 2012
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yea, billy bill beating up sum little kids is so cool ! laugh

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