IDK if its already been mentioned(theres four or five twiztid leaving threads) but y'all hear about the afraid of me video? There is writing on a wall in the original video that says “December 12th 2012 the world as we know it will change forever” Its debatable as to whether it sas 21st or 12th but there are blown up pics of it floatin' around right now. It looks like 12th to me but my eyes aren't what they used to be as im the ripe old age of 24

What’s there to support about Psychopathic anymore? It’s a sinking ship because of Violent J’s ego. He signs artists nobody cares about, puts on wrestling shows nobody cares about, and makes music that makes juggalos cringe these days. He bends over backwards for mainstream acceptance that will never come and he’s let himself go he can’t rap or sing anymore. Their music is trying to be so safe these days that they should drop the “Insane” part in their name completely. Remember before MDP dropped and they said they’re calling people out and have no regrets? Oh wow Chris Brown and Dog The Bounty Hunter. Don’t get too crazy guys! The album was supposed to return to their wicked roots too. Yeah, not so much. They wanted to change the Gathering of the Juggalos to just The Gathering to be more accepted. Signing acts to the Gathering that juggalos don’t even like and doing collabs with artists juggalos don’t like. The Miracles fiasco. Being on an SNL in the closet skit that they were “honored” to be on. That was SNL’s answer to ICP’s request to perform on the show after SNL dissed them on numerous skits btw. Treated them like bitches and ICP was honored. The new ICP everybody! Old ICP is rolling in their graves. Saying they’re Christians when they don’t even know what it means and making songs about wanting to slap God. Come on. And too many other examples. Nothing they do makes sense anymore.

So where has all this gotten them? Nowhere. The mainstream still treats them like a joke, MDP sold LESS than BPB opening week despite J deluding himself thinking it would be there biggest album ever because they got some mainstream press from Miracles and SNL dissing them, and the label is crumbling from the inside. Psychopathic used to be an alternative and like what ICP has become, it’s a joke too. Now J cares more about positive press and fulfilling his own fantasies than he does doing what’s best for the label or the fans. Completely backwards mentality of what it used to be and the results speak for itself. It backfired on him big time. It’s a safe bet Blaze will leave which leaves the roster to ICP making bad soft and safe music and people that kiss J’s ass and/or people J was a fan of growing up. So in other words it’s just ICP. It’s not even about putting out the best product for the juggalos anymore. They just let their biggest act outside of themselves go because of ego. So the label itself is done. It doesn’t mean anything anymore. I know it’ll always be the ICP label and when ICP is done, so is the label. But as far as it being a thriving alternative label, it’s no more.

Sorry if this sounded all dramatic that wasn’t my intention. Only that blindly supporting the label when they’ve turned their backs on the fans and everything they used to stand for doesn’t make sense. Psychopathic almost went under years back too for the exact same reasons. But Twiztid stuck around and ICP started making jokers cards again. Now with Twiztid gone and juggalos losing interest in the second deck quickly and the rest of the artists on the label, what’s going to make it thrive again? Outside of ICP making Riddle Box and Milenko quality music again, I don’t see the optimism here. Doubtful they’ll find anyone as talented as Twiztid again either. Psychopathic and ICP are played out while Twiztid is still quality and having drive to make their fanbase happy. Can’t wait to see what moves they make because we know J will keep doing the same lame shit he’s been doing for the past decade. Bad music and bad

decisions. Dude is stuck in his ways and isn’t showing any si
gns of changing.

Man, i literally agree with every single word u said bro. Shit is really sad , but Twiztid HAD to do this idk if anyone really understands how fucked up psychopathic really is anymore.

Snatcharoo that is just fucking weird man. I can't imagine any juggalo not loving twiztid's body of work. Im trying so hard to wrap my brain around this. I know it's all perception but you should prolly get ya ears checked homie. I will agree they'd prolly be janitor's right now if not for Joe, but this is a new age man. The internet has given any artist the avenue they need to get their music out and heard. Twiztid's gonna be just fine and will continue to make music. If they left ten years ago you might've never heard from em again but not now. Just look at boondox. There's like 30,000 people that follow him on twitter waitin on that turncoat dirty.

That’s one point about then never touring outside the country never thought of that, but nonetheless icp so who would fund the tour not psychopathic, icp wouldnt get anything out of it.

You ashamed to wear your hatchet gear stuff now because Twiztid is gone. Motherfuckas that say shit like that were only down for the fad they were never real from the start.

You was never a juggalo you was just a fad follower.

This is still all very strange to me. I never in a hundred years would have thought Twiztid would have left the label. Each side really needs to put out a press release explaining the story like yesterday. I hate when every artist on PSY talks about being real and down with their fans, but then something big happens and we're all left in the dark.

I really don't see Twiztid signing with Strange though. Honestly, I hope they don't. Honestly honestly, I'm still hoping all this never happened…

What will happen to Blaze now? Why would he stay? He was voicing his issue with PSY at his last Gathering seminar. 

I can guarantee if Twiztid is gone for good we will never hear a new Lotus. Rydas will most likely happen again, in a new form.

This whole situation sucks ninjas…

It is hard to imagine psychopathic records without Twiztid. They have been such a big part of the label for the past decade. I supported psychopathic records when it was only ICP before Twiztid and I will still support it now. I am absolutely still going to support Twiztid I haven't missed a Twiztid cd yet and I am not going to start now just because they are off the label. same with Boondox.

I've been down since HOK. You're god damned fucking right I want an explanation.

Shocked is an emotion. What the fuck are you talking about crying and shit? Disappointed is another emotion.