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Want to help with a fake Jokers Card intro?
May 6, 2015
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After dudebro posted that pic, I’ma Thumper my way outta here. Lol

I'm the neck cutta and I'm one block away...

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Haha I hope everyone enjoys their Leg Diamond limited edition Beach towels...

 

May 6, 2015
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A Muse is/was typically a woman but it doesn’t have to be a woman. Either way, I like the way The Mystical Muse sounds. Has a nice ring to it. 

May 6, 2015
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MetalHorrorGuitarWhat said
Afraid I have to side with scruff mcgruff the crime dog:  Nothing about this is legal as dudebro was trying to say. Selling it or not, you’re stealing because you don’t own it [the people with publishing rights do] and have zero right to distribute shit that ain’t yours.

 

The only thing you could do, legally, is give a tracklist, maybe the “fake intro,” and the home made cover.  Past that, you might want to keep it on the DL.

That seems to be the consensus with anyone I’ve mentioned it to. It’s something that’s beyond my expertise so posting the cover, intro, and a suggestion of what songs/skits to play in what order or something along those lines should be acceptable, yeah? 

May 7, 2015
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CellE2057 said

MetalHorrorGuitarWhat said
Afraid I have to side with scruff mcgruff the crime dog:  Nothing about this is legal as dudebro was trying to say. Selling it or not, you’re stealing because you don’t own it [the people with publishing rights do] and have zero right to distribute shit that ain’t yours.

 

The only thing you could do, legally, is give a tracklist, maybe the “fake intro,” and the home made cover.  Past that, you might want to keep it on the DL.

That seems to be the consensus with anyone I’ve mentioned it to. It’s something that’s beyond my expertise so posting the cover, intro, and a suggestion of what songs/skits to play in what order or something along those lines should be acceptable, yeah? 

Basically.  Instead of referring to it as an “album”, calling it a playlist/remix should be a little safer.

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May 7, 2015
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I have a great idea ..

1. burn all your favorite icp songs onto a blank cd

2. write icp mix on the cd

3. then listen to the cd

 

problem solved

May 7, 2015
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thats more or less what im thinkin, at this point.  

in essence, youve already done what you said youre tryin to do, cell.  lets face it, it isnt especially significant;  its a ‘what if’, at best.  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

May 7, 2015
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It’s definitely just a series of “what if” situations. It’s more or less for me and a couple friends but we need an intro. So I came here. The legal thing happened to be what took off as far as conversation goes so I ran with it. 

I do believe on post one I said it was just an elaborate mix cd and that’s still all it is. 

May 8, 2015
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Honestly I highly doubt Psy would issue a cease and desist over someone’s homemade mixtape, LET ALONE try and press charges. If you were going to sell it I would feel differently, but that’s just my opinion.

May 8, 2015
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People put shit on YouTube all the time. 

Y’all scaring the boy.no millionaire artist or label is gonna waste time suing a fan

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May 8, 2015
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VoiceNameless said
Right I get that, but if you’re not selling a product what can they come after you for? I have and just did a little more cause you got me thinking now (know a good entertainment attorney? lol). My understanding was as long as you’re not making money off of it now or in the future there’s nothing anybody can do except dead it.

They can sue you for 3 times the ammount of damages to their sales that they can allege came from your bootleg. So if you get one download, they can claim a loss of 1 album sold for each of the albums that your songs come from, so if you got songs from three albums, they can hit you up for up to $135. 3 albums at $15 dollars each. Times 3 times the damages. If 100 people download, they can go after $13,500 for your free download, etc.

 

May 8, 2015
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Again, considering that when people were making money off of them on Etsy all Psychopathic did was order a cease and desist, I think I’d be safe. The intro is in the works and whatnot and if people want it, that’s cool. I might find a way to make sure someone hears the chopped up stuff and the full, fake ass, elaborate fuckin mix cd of a Jokers Card but cover, intro, and suggested tracklist is safe no matter what. As long as I’m not saying that it’s Insane Clown Posse. 

May 9, 2015
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so basicly, theyre not gonna do anything, because you think theyre not gonna do anything.  

 

did you contact them, seeking permission?  im sure you didnt, cuz that message would be… more than a little inflammatory.  

“hi psychopathic!  i think your new album sucks, and i wanna re-do it my way, then release it to your fans.  is that cool?’  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

May 10, 2015
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If it’s done and they contact me telling me to stop and then sue me, I’ll be sure to come back here and tell you I was wrong, @scruffy. I wouldn’t hold your breathe on them contacting me though. Not because I think it therefor it’s true but because who the fuck am I? When their music is on piratebay right now with over 500 people stealing one album and well over a thousand people stealing other albums from them, I think a mix cd made between a couple friends won’t show up on their radar. Again, I might be wrong and if I am I’ll be sure to admit it. 

May 10, 2015
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consider…  this forum is their radar.  part of it, anyway.  

im not sayin they will nail you.  im sayin, if they want to, you have no defense.  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

May 11, 2015
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For sure. Legally, no matter how simple my intentions, I have zero argument. I think that it’s very unlikely that it would ever come to anything legal beyond a cease and desist, if that though. 

May 17, 2015
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Pigg said

THY GHETTO F.R.3.e.K.S.H.O.W. said
I thought muse were only female tho??? i ain’t down wit no transsexual jokers card

so i wud go wit “The Mystical Hidden Jinn”, like Jinn tha Genie {Supernatural creature/entity that inhabits an unseen world, another universe beyond the known universe (Dark Carnival). Jinn iz made of clay & forms out off smoke but iz also physical in nature, being able to interact in a tactile manner with people & objects & likewise be acted upon.} Not no Walt Disney Aladdin RIP Robbin Williams tho

or u could just go wit “The Mystical Hidden Genie”

Jinn is a noun meaning “hidden from sight” hence The Mystical HIDDEN Jinn”

just wut i wuz thinkin idk tho, if u u smell wut i stepped in & like it let me kno

me & my bro Killha Krazee CYRAXE will make an intro 4 u ninjaz

Why can’t a joker card be a female? Or transgendered?

Because it’s fucking lame as shit, thats why! rofl_gif

May 17, 2015
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Here’s my solution. Make a playlist on Youtube. Track #1, your intro with your artwork as the video. The rest? Already-exisiting uploads that others have put on there. Wanna share it? Share the link to the playlist. Takes all accountability off of you and puts it on the original uploaders. If anyone gets gone after, it’s them. You’re completely in the clear.

May 17, 2015
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a solution so clean, nobody came up with it til now.  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

May 17, 2015
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Many times, a common sense solution gets discarded because it’s too obvious lol.

May 19, 2015
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Well now that @entrappedmind has completely solved the problem I’m going to move on. Which, damn, dude. When I read your final solution it was one of those “FUCK! Why hasn’t that came up?” deals. Nicely done. 

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Pigg said

THY GHETTO F.R.3.e.K.S.H.O.W. said
I thought muse were only female tho??? i ain’t down wit no transsexual jokers card

so i wud go wit “The Mystical Hidden Jinn”, like Jinn tha Genie {Supernatural creature/entity that inhabits an unseen world, another universe beyond the known universe (Dark Carnival). Jinn iz made of clay & forms out off smoke but iz also physical in nature, being able to interact in a tactile manner with people & objects & likewise be acted upon.} Not no Walt Disney Aladdin RIP Robbin Williams tho

or u could just go wit “The Mystical Hidden Genie”

Jinn is a noun meaning “hidden from sight” hence The Mystical HIDDEN Jinn”

just wut i wuz thinkin idk tho, if u u smell wut i stepped in & like it let me kno

me & my bro Killha Krazee CYRAXE will make an intro 4 u ninjaz

Why can’t a joker card be a female? Or transgendered?

Because it’s fucking lame as shit, thats why! rofl_gif

What’s wrong with a female jokers card? Or transgendered? Fuck, I even think it would be cool to have an animal. If the guys from the Dark Carnival look the way they look, imagine a fucking dog. Besides, would it really be any worse of a design than Missing Link? 

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