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Violent J and the Patreon Videos
May 1, 2021
7:27 pm
King Lucem Ferre
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lol

Like he goes to scratch his nose and very clearly swallows something after.

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norsemoron
May 1, 2021
10:42 pm
BZA
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Well that explains a lot, and sucks

May 1, 2021
11:02 pm
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Maybe. Or maybe we're just full of shit.

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May 2, 2021
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The music quality has definitely been on a downhill slide since MDP, so somethings wrong

May 2, 2021
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BZA said
The music quality has definitely been on a downhill slide since MDP, so somethings wrong  

Maybe MDP was a final secret cry for help.

"PCP! Meth! Mad anti depression pills! Everything spills into one pot! On top of that I smoke rock!"

Perhaps it's like that Tiny Rick episode on Rick & Morty. Maybe Shaggy is actually a voodoo witch doctor controlling J with a mixture of poisons and majik. Or maybe Majik Ninja Records is! 

The only way he can communicate is through lyrics. Pay attention, ninjas lol... the code may be coming soon.

May 2, 2021
9:21 am
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LOL I don't even want to speculate on what's going on or what the reasons might be, because half the time that just ends up being straight bullshit. I don't even want to gossip. Like Shaggy gaining weight...he just had major back surgery a couple years ago. That's when I noticed the weight starting to stack on. From what I see between this and his show with Keagan, he shows up, does his shit, and seems to genuinely care about what he's doing. I can't ask for much more than that.

J seems to, as well. When he's there and on point, it's completely cool. I'm watching their cooking show from a couple months ago, and it's pretty decent. I'm just questioning if maybe these Patreon things are doing more harm than good right now. I respect the fuck out of those dudes and still got mad love in my heart for them, so I don't want to turn into Chitty-Chatty-Kathy, worrying if they shaved their dick hair this month or not. It just seems like J has a lack of self-awareness right now, and that's worrisome.

May 2, 2021
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SpaghettiHands87 said
Like Shaggy gaining weight.. he shows up, does his shit, and seems to genuinely care about what he's doing. I can't ask for much more than that.

 

Fuck that I need 2 Dope to lose 30 pounds.

At least one of them has to look cool.

 

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May 2, 2021
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Since when do we have to question whether or not J takes pills? He's freely admitted that about 9 million different times. That video of him "sneaking a pill on camera" is something I would assume has a prescription for and has to take his shit at certain times and so he did. I can't imagine he's THAT stupid where he'd just pop some other kind of pills he shouldn't be on right there with a camera pointed directly in his face. 

May 2, 2021
3:51 pm
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I couldn't imagine juggalos being so invested in being so judgmental even if he was but then this forum happened and people tried to blame not liking new ICP on everything other than personal opinions.

May 2, 2021
4:54 pm
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King Lucem Ferre said
I couldn't imagine juggalos being so invested in being so judgmental even if he was but then this forum happened and people tried to blame not liking new ICP on everything other than personal opinions.  

Not liking something and thinking something is bad are two different things. I like a fair bit of the newer ICP stuff but I don't think it's as good as it could be and the most recent stuff they have released feel like J is struggling, with shaggy stepping up and becoming more of the face.

There are plenty of things I like that I know arent good: The fast and furious movies, the last limp bizkit album, McDonald's...

Also, it's clear a lot of people are concerned rather than being judgemental. This is one of the more positive conversations I've seen about this subject, but it's not just on this forum. 

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norsemoron
May 3, 2021
12:09 pm
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he problay take hart pills and weight ones becuase he a fat guy .you people is stupid man

Noah Fence is a RACIST piece of shit and so are you if you support him. No excuses.

May 3, 2021
12:29 pm
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randy gall said
he problay take hart pills and weight ones becuase he a fat guy .you people is stupid man  

Why is everyone focusing on this pill shit? That's like 10% of this conversation. Who cares why he's all fucked up these days, the point still stands that he's clearly got some shit going on and it's affecting his work. You'd have to be fucking Stevie wonder to not be able to see it.

Personally, I don't give a fuck what it is, even if he's just not feeling the whole "violent J" thing right now and doesnt have a huge passion for it right now, I hope he can do what he needs to do, to make himself better. Maybe he's genuinely not doing too good and he's all fucked up. Take time out and fix yourself. 

I'm not his fucking dad, if he wants to have a heroin addiction, then he can do whatever he wants but don't expect me to support something for 25+ years and not be able to tell when something isn't right.

I've said it before but go back 4 years and watch those solo videos he put out, then compare them to these streams, it's like 2 different people.

Whatever it is, illness, general wear and tear, drug addiction, fatigue, boredom... Take some time off. Can't keep watching this guy slobbering when he talks and putting visibly less effort into the music, just so he can make some money. 

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May 3, 2021
4:41 pm
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norsemoron
May 3, 2021
8:10 pm
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Honestly, I think J was on uppers in 2017 when he made all that solo stuff. He was STILL acting super erratic, lost a bunch of weight really quickly, and just seemed all over the place.

May 3, 2021
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Pigg said
Honestly, I think J was on uppers in 2017 when he made all that solo stuff. He was STILL acting super erratic, lost a bunch of weight really quickly, and just seemed all over the place.  

Those were the days...

"...Popping two Adderalls, three Viagras, and molly..."

YouTube Video Insane Clown Posse - 6 Foot 7 Foot (7 Foot 8 Foot ft. Lyte)

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May 3, 2021
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krunk said

Pigg said
Honestly, I think J was on uppers in 2017 when he made all that solo stuff. He was STILL acting super erratic, lost a bunch of weight really quickly, and just seemed all over the place.  

Those were the days...

"...Popping two Adderalls, three Viagras, and molly..."

YouTube Video Insane Clown Posse - 6 Foot 7 Foot (7 Foot 8 Foot ft. Lyte)  

Lol exactly the verse that I think of when he talks about losing weight. That's quite the weight loss combo right there. 

Adderall can shrivel your dick up something fierce, and Molly as well. Good thing for the viagra. Levitra works even better! 

Lookin for the 2 drunk cougars... and you got yourself a "fuck yourself thin" program. 

I also love how in his book, J tells himself "don't eat those chips; those are faggot chips".

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norsemoron
May 20, 2021
10:16 am
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J's been on and off his whole career, he has massive swings toward the better and again toward the worst. Touring for Milenko and the whole nyquil fiasco was one era, he slowly crawled out of it between that and the early pre-Shangri-La era, went back into it not long after and had like two more dips into it before the aforementioned 6 Foot 7 Foot, "I'm a real rapper now" era... Poor guy's always had a really rough time maintaining a positive and healthy outlook. Trauma and poverty will do that to people. Fear of both success and failure.

He always goes into a new era with a bright outlook, but I think eventually the fear of maintaining success takes him down when he realizes he has to do something to maintain it and then he swan dives into.. Whatever he does to self soothe (not gonna speculate).

His interest in young girls is and always has been a huge problem, and is a totally separate thing that needs to be addressed. He really doesn't seem to think there's anything wrong with it, but it was gross when he was in his 20s and it's much worse now. That being said, as long as he's judt ogling and not exploiting impressionable under age girls, it is what it is for now.

I really hope that once Corona calms down he has the chance to have another upswing. He's gonna have to learn to live with a dwindling juggalo family, we're all only getting older and the chances of us coming back in any meaningful way gets lower and lower as time goes by. If someone is gonna bring it back to anything like what it was back in the day, it's not gonna be ICP that does it. I hope he can learn to live with where he's at eventually and be the J we all know and love to the best of his ability.

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May 20, 2021
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Stalkz said
His interest in young girls is and always has been a huge problem, and is a totally separate thing that needs to be addressed. He really doesn't seem to think there's anything wrong with it, but it was gross when he was in his 20s and it's much worse now.

Yeah it's weird, usually that shit stops when someone has their own daughter.

 

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May 20, 2021
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Miklo Velka said

Stalkz said
His interest in young girls is and always has been a huge problem, and is a totally separate thing that needs to be addressed. He really doesn't seem to think there's anything wrong with it, but it was gross when he was in his 20s and it's much worse now.

Yeah it's weird, usually that shit stops when someone has their own daughter.

 

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True, but then again, there's that whole Die Antwoord thing where Ninja specifically scouts out chicks that look like his daughter... So who knows 🤷‍♂️

May 24, 2021
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It's a natural tendency on the internet for people to be cynical & shit but I just hope he's ok & this is a bump in the road.

The patreon live streams came about while J has been slipping. I want to see him happy & healthy for years to come.

Every single person looking @ this forum has had the world this dude built effect their life to an insane degree. His impact is understated massively.

High as bawls & haven't been on here in months. Love yall 

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