Not what I was talking about. EVERYONE knows that track is about kmk.

If anything they are praising J on “Frankenstein” for puttin' em on. That song is directed to the mainstream establishment and haters saying that they are just icp clones. They call J a fucking mastermind in the chorus!

the troublemaker said:

VIOLENT J was drunk on AIM and spilled the beans during the greenbook era

 

http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/n…..icnews.htm

 

12/28/03

pulled from faygo lovers

J PUTS IT ALL OUT TWIZTID AND ZUG OFF PSYCHOPATHIC ???????????? TWIZTID SINGIN WITH SHADY???????????

Chat Room : thin ice from MAD UPS TO DaKilla From [email protected]

 

o WE ANT DONE Next ROOM from
Josh76023 and he said just give shout outs to the band downfall from Charles Town, West Virginia. and say soemthing like if your in the area try to hit up one of their shows
CHAT ROOM : stailness
Nobody Fresh: He said, he aint feeling Lotus right now, maybe in 6 months maybe in a year
Nobody Fresh: fuck it and fuck it all
Nobody Fresh: just know this
Nobody Fresh: one day real soon
Nobody Fresh: Let me ask yall one more thing
Nobody Fresh: who do you all think Twiztid's song Frankenstine is about?
Nobody Fresh: OK, a diss on me put out on my own lable
Nobody Fresh: so this is the bottem line
Nobody Fresh: Everybody please do me a big favor
Nobody Fresh: Let me be the only ninja with this typeset color
Nobody Fresh: listen
Nobody Fresh: im drunk
Nobody Fresh: thats why im spilling my guts
Nobody Fresh: I feel like
Nobody Fresh: I owe ninjas and Juggalos much more than I give
Nobody Fresh: about the truth and myself
Nobody Fresh: if we start holding back the truths
Nobody Fresh: its like were controlling something
Nobody Fresh: and this juggalo nation aint suppoised to be controlled
Nobody Fresh: if it goes away than it just does
Nobody Fresh: Hold up one sec
Nobody Fresh: for all yall to print and share with the world I aint stupid
Nobody Fresh: come newyears
Nobody Fresh: things are gonna be stale at first
Nobody Fresh: really stale
Nobody Fresh: alot of stale news
Nobody Fresh: alot of broken hearts'
Nobody Fresh: alot of un fuckin nessisary bullshit
Nobody Fresh: but its just the was life is I guess, even for a juggalo
Nobody Fresh: But some peeps are leaving the family
Nobody Fresh: nothing can be done
Nobody Fresh: ninjas are growing and going
Nobody Fresh: there own way
Nobody Fresh: Zug Island might be gone, Twiztid Might be gone, Blaze is gone but I guess Colton Gundy is alive and rappin someplace else, He told ME he was out, so whatever
Nobody Fresh: Mike P thinks he's Prince thats why
Nobody Fresh: Mike P thinks he's Prince thats why
Nobody Fresh: and after he did the 6th he just now thinks he's Quincy Jones
Nobody Fresh: We went to mike E
Nobody Fresh: Mike told us, he's gonna do the whole record or none of it
Nobody Fresh: and we already got 14 done
Nobody Fresh: sp fuck Mike E
Nobody Fresh: Besides he sold the “wall” on E Bay
Nobody Fresh: you know what the wall is?
Nobody Fresh: The wall was a wall we drew on in Mike Clarks Fun House Studio and Joey drew on it session after session for 3 or 4 years. And mike cut the wall out and Sold it on E Bay
Nobody Fresh: LOOK YALL
Nobody Fresh: WHEN YOU HEAR ABOUT ME AND JOEY OR PSYCHOPATHIC STRAIGHT UP BACKSTABBING AND FUCKIN SOMEBODY OVER… I'LL ANSWER TO QUESTIONS AND CONFRONT THOSE ALLIGATIONS
Nobody Fresh: name em
Nobody Fresh: what, when who and how
Nobody Fresh: Esham and Eminem hate eachother
Nobody Fresh: Thug Pit
Nobody Fresh: thats his problem
Nobody Fresh: ask him
Nobody Fresh: I dont fuckin sencor our artist
Nobody Fresh: Esham and ABK just did a song with me today
Nobody Fresh: BEEF
Nobody Fresh: Beef means fighting
Nobody Fresh: Aint no Beef at Psychopathic
Nobody Fresh: whats he say
Nobody Fresh: Well he must not be talkin about us, 2 resons, we aint fags, and number 2 he aint never shot at us with no paint balls
Nobody Fresh: Look
Nobody Fresh: was anybody in this room a crip or a blood growing up?
Nobody Fresh: NO!
Nobody Fresh: Me niether
Nobody Fresh: A Aint really drunk
Nobody Fresh: I kind of lied about the drunk part
Nobody Fresh: because I wish I was
Nobody Fresh: yes its a code
Nobody Fresh: its funner to get it on your onw
Nobody Fresh: Hells Pit>
Nobody Fresh: You wanna know about the PIT?
Nobody Fresh: Who anybody
Nobody Fresh: ???
Nobody Fresh: Man I an 2 things 1. Im flattered that yall actually carea about our new shit like that, and nu,mber 2
Nobody Fresh: Imma tell ya
Nobody Fresh: hope it dont let yall down
Nobody Fresh: the first song on The Wraith Shangra La was called “Walk into the Light” and on Hell's Pit the first song is called, Walk into the Darkness
Nobody Fresh: This one will touch you in a bad way. your best to just not get it
Nobody Fresh: Yeah
Nobody Fresh: Evil shit is always fresh LISTEN YOU FUCKS
Nobody Fresh: Evil shit is fresh when its mixxed in ith several other karmas and flavors
Nobody Fresh: but one record, straight eveil
Nobody Fresh: is something else
Nobody Fresh: Hells Pit is straight eveil
Nobody Fresh: Death, bloody blood, chop, necks, bloody faces, stab stab, wind pipes I grab, and nab, bolldy bloody
Nobody Fresh: Look yall
Nobody Fresh: I couldnt have explained it in the seminar any better
Nobody Fresh: Shangra La was for yall
Nobody Fresh: That wasent that eveil because on that record we were celibrating and parting and lovin it up in heavon with YOU
Nobody Fresh: Butr Hells Pit
Nobody Fresh: Its for the evil lost ones
Nobody Fresh: its for some of you
Nobody Fresh: but not those that really see what were trying to say
Nobody Fresh: Hat chet
Nobody Fresh: yes
Nobody Fresh: There will be one song
Nobody Fresh: Called
Nobody Fresh: Heavons Forcast
Nobody Fresh: It rained bodys in Hells forcast
Nobody Fresh: in Heavons forcast
Nobody Fresh: It rains diamonds again
Nobody Fresh: The last track will be nothing said special
Nobody Fresh: we look at it like thius
Nobody Fresh: On the Shangrala record, that was technically the 6th jokers card, so we basically said it all on that
Nobody Fresh: Hells Pit, is for them
Nobody Fresh: we have nothing to say to them
Nobody Fresh: we tried to get there attention for 12 years already
Nobody Fresh: were done waviing to them
Nobody Fresh: its appearant that they hate us
Nobody Fresh: good idea
Nobody Fresh: but no we canr
Nobody Fresh: cant
Nobody Fresh: because…
Nobody Fresh: ICP is ICP
Nobody Fresh: Nobody else is ever gonna catch on to us
Nobody Fresh: that was it
Nobody Fresh: we struggles and tried for all them years
Nobody Fresh: this last record'
Nobody Fresh: is just for who ever picks it up
Nobody Fresh: because
Nobody Fresh: who ever does
Nobody Fresh: will be so appauled
Nobody Fresh: they wont know what the fuck were talking about anyway
Nobody Fresh: Look
Nobody Fresh: not fuck them
Nobody Fresh: who knows
Nobody Fresh: maybe they'll find the light in some other way
Nobody Fresh: but who cares if the dont
Nobody Fresh: For Hells Pit
Nobody Fresh: There will be
Nobody Fresh: 3 low budget horror, grewsome, bloody radio no radio explicit videos
Nobody Fresh: All sond on a DVD called ICP the FULL story, documentary on our who countdown and what it ment to juggalos
Nobody Fresh: Then there will be a Hells Pit tour, smaller clubs, flollowed by a big tour for September and October and then thats it
Nobody Fresh: Solo Time
Nobody Fresh: Smaller venues but 1000's of them
Nobody Fresh: Man, on the final tours were hittin up everywhereNobody Fresh: BUT YALL DONT HEAR ME THOUGH
Nobody Fresh: ONE THINGNobody Fresh: LISTEN
Nobody Fresh: NEXT NINJA THAT TALKS GETS BOOTED I MEAN IT STARTING
Nobody Fresh: RIGHT
Nobody Fresh: NOW
Nobody Fresh: RIGHT
Nobody Fresh: NOW
Nobody Fresh: NEXT NINJA FALLS OUT
Nobody Fresh: ok just let me say one thing
Nobody Fresh: DONT GET BOOTED
Nobody Fresh: IM TELLIN YOU I DONT CARE WHAT YOU SAY
Nobody Fresh: OK
Nobody Fresh: ALL I WANNA SAY IS
Nobody Fresh: MAN, I FUCKIN LOVE YALL AND THANK YALL FOR LETTIN US INTO YOUR LIVES, AND BUMB YOUR SYSTEMS MAN, THATS ALL WE EVER WANTED TO DO. THANK YOU EVEN THE HATERS. THANK YOU ALL
Nobody Fresh: as for the future
Nobody Fresh: 3 things are for cirtian
Nobody Fresh: 3 THINGS
Nobody Fresh: LISTEN
Nobody Fresh: 1. Me and my mother fuckin brothers from day one, and until its all over and were dead, Me Alex And my dog Joey.. we will never stop making music, togeather. Weather its solo, togeather or whatever
Nobody Fresh: WE STAY TOGEATHER
Nobody Fresh: Number 2. Twiztid id Twiztid, there gonna do what they do, thats strictly on Twiztid and the deistions they make as a band, and if that means ni more Lotus, or Psychopathic, than please address questions to them.
Nobody Fresh: And Number 3…
Nobody Fresh: With Twiztid, millions of ninjas will leave… if Zug Leaves, with them houndreds of ninjas, will leave, but the bottem line is, ICP, mother fuckin Insane Clown Posse, aint never leavin. We'll always be down, and always rep Juggalo
Nobody Fresh: and the hatchet
Nobody Fresh: for ever
Nobody Fresh: thats the only ONLY THING I can promis you all in 2004
Nobody Fresh: Im
Nobody Fresh: Im out this piece
Nobody Fresh: I love yall
Nobody Fresh: Much love you you and your holiday familys
Nobody Fresh: Peace and much clown love

damn…… that was a great read… never saw that shit befoe….

the troublemaker said:

twiztid always does subliminals, even on mostasteless “what the fuck” was a shot at skrapz and roc cuz they put a HOK record using the name.

 

kmk didnt get dissed on wondering why, nobody did…its just a song about randomness. u can even read the lyrics. its about weird shit like getting beat up by cops and woman troubles. its not a very strait forward song. i dont even get wat its about, it just fuckin sounds cool

the website debate line was the diss

Have you listened to the fucking song? “Created through the vision of a mastermind” They are saying though J put them on and told them “You gotta keep an axe on your waist at all times- don't worry about the hate and just bring it from whats inside”  there are people that see them as nothing more than clones.

It really doesn't get anymore clear than that man. It just doesn't

I don't honestly see how y'all can sit there and say that is a violent J diss in the slightest. Its not.

Damn y'all need to quit being retarded for real. I don't need to read it because the lyrics have been in my head for years.

“Im representin' for the same peers you keep hatin' and disrespectin” talking about reppin' the hatchet.

Its clearly about the mainstream. Its clearly about people who don't bother to give them a listen because of their association with icp.

“What I see is so many stars sucking dick” “Aint nobody writin' raps for me””Aint no plaques coverin my wall”

Why would mono mention j's advice about haters if they were fucking talking about j? Y'all are not making sense here

“Violent J put us up on the grind- and said you gotta keep an axe on your waist at all times-and theres a while lotta people thats just lookin' to shine- so don't worry about the haters and just bring it from whats inside” The song is about HATERS

Slumerican502 said:

Damn y'all need to quit being retarded for real. I don't need to read it because the lyrics have been in my head for years.

“Im representin' for the same peers you keep hatin' and disrespectin” talking about reppin' the hatchet.

 

Its clearly about the mainstream. Its clearly about people who don't bother to give them a listen because of their association with icp.

“What I see is so many stars sucking dick” “Aint nobody writin' raps for me””Aint no plaques coverin my wall”

Why would mono mention j's advice about haters if they were fucking talking about j? Y'all are not making sense here

 

“Violent J put us up on the grind- and said you gotta keep an axe on your waist at all times-and theres a while lotta people thats just lookin' to shine- so don't worry about the haters and just bring it from whats inside” The song is about HATERS

if thats the case why do you think j took it personal???

the troublemaker said:

and get over it people, it doesnt matter wat I think or wat U think….the bottom line is Violent J took it as a diss and when hes the person the diss was aimed towards, i cant say no its not a diss. he was offended by that song. Violent J didnt care if they said hes a mastermind in the chorus. thats kindda like a diss too if u read into it with brains. it sounds like twiztid is just sayin they are puppets on a string to a mastermind like J and wanted their strings cut and be on there own. its kind of a sarcastic statement, created thru the vision of a mastermind, but my soul is mine, etc. J gave them the name twiztid and helped with the image but twiztid was pist and wanted credit cuz they have talent and write there own shit 

boom!