The Missing Link has more songs I dig. Being two albums, I guess it has a bit of an advantage. I like both though. 

Missing link... Twiztid's great but icp>twiztid any day in my personal opinion. 

sketchez said
the missing link had way more of an impact, the darkness got old real fast

twiztid needs to drop an album really soon.. their laziness is not making them look good

In your opinion. I still love the Darkness. I stopped listening to Lost with in a week. Found hasn't even been out for a week and I haven't even heard it yet.

Also, the Darkness did stick to it's theme. It just wasn't nearly as dark as people thought. Like, none of it was happy music. It's not some morbidly sick and twisted album like W.I.C.K.E.D., but it is a dark album.

The Darkness intro might be the gayest thing I've ever heard. Three or four jams I fuck with. The rest isn't bad but it isn't good either. I feel like they are trying to keep up with modern mainstream rap trends while staying dark. It comes off as desperate and lame most of the time.

All the anti-racist and redneck bashing ICP does on Lost makes them seem like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson on wax. They aren't even black so what the fuck do they know about discrimination? They were successful early on in life off the wallets of rich white kids. They only go on and on about racism because they are over compensating for their lack of street cred.. being white kids from the suburbs themselves. Plus the new trap beats do not last or have the depth of say... Mike E Clark. The third member of ICP and just as important to the group as J or Shaggy. Every album without him is only 2/3 ICP.

If I had to pick one I'd go with Lost though. Apocalypse and Falling Apart go hard and ICP are just being themselves. Business as usual.

ganjadude said

HahahaWooo said
 They aren't even black so what the fuck do they know about discrimination? 

thats not entirely fair. Id say they know all about discrimination. mainstream, raidio, MTV. etc. 

 

having said that I do agree with you on the fact that they put WAY to much into it on this album

I hear you but they've been preaching that anti-racism thing since COC. 

Right, they aren't exactly going out on new limbs with the subject matter. The flamethrower concept was genius though. Just wish they went beyond killing Bubba and Hoss.

And again, so Twiztid sticking to their roots by keeping the same grungy rock sound they've always had, bringing back the same funky sampling hip hop shit from the early H.O.K. days and the same gothy dark beats the've done for a long time is selling out or trying to be mainstream but ICP literally jumping on the Trap band wagon that everybody in the mainstream has done since Kanye popularized that specific Trap sound with Yeezus is them just being themselves? Ya full of shit.

I haven't heard it yet. Start a thread and hype the fuck out of it and I might be convinced to download it faster.

Some guy said that on youtube before, I guess he's got the point for me as well - the difference between ICP and Twiztid in general is that I can feel ICP's lyrics, but most of Twiztid's lyrics don't stick, they're passing by too fast without really feeling them. So to me ICP wins almost every time (beside the fact that I do like Twiztid's music).

I'm not totally sure what the reason is. All of them are good rappers and I guess I'd agree, if somebody said Madrox is the most talented one. I love his voice (and do think that the difference between mono and madrox is fucking HUGE, much more than between J and shaggy), in many Lotus tracks he's my favorite. But within Twiztid it often feels like they don't have a clear concept for some songs, to me it often sounds kinda random. Maybe it's because I'm not that into the fast rapping - even if there are good lyrics in it and it's sounding nice, I can't really feel them. ICP instead finds ways their rap gets to the heart. Of course not with every track, but more often than not. Twiztid is able to do that, too, but not as often and not as good overall as ICP does it to me.

And that's the thing with The Darkness and TMML. I really enjoyed Back To Hell, Down Here, On and On and a few other songs, but there is no song on it I'm appreciating like Falling Apart, Apocalypse, Vomit, Confederate Flag or even I'll Keep My Hatchet (cause of the outstanding chorus). To name a few. Found is too new to evaluate yet, but I like the concept (imo TMML:L&F has to be looked at as a whole) and really enjoyed the first listens. I guess I can already tell Im gonna be able to add several tracks off of Found (Lost At The Carnival, The Midway) to the list as well.
-> I like TMML better.

Nonetheless I'm diggin The Darkness and nonetheless there are things I'm arguing about on TMML, especially Lost sounds kinda rushed to me, too. But still a good record and to me the best Joker's Card of the new deck, that I'm starting to really enjoy.

Darkness is last on my list.. Lost and found get more rotation than darkness. Especially found. The flow on darkness was dope just wasnt feelin most of the tracks. It reminded me of scrapped tracks for abominationz.. they need to get rid of that sound and do something different. 

All you fuckers with your juggalo gatheringing, downloadings, and youtubings. Is anyone waiting for Friday like me to listen to Found?