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Pigg said

bayAreaShaman said
U always lawyer up. 
U never let drugs or alcohol get in the way of your dreams man. 
U fucken sold out for a bottle and some asshole.   

 

To be fair, she was young and may have not understood that you always lawyer up. Not everyone is subjected to the same experiences as you and I. 

Also, Ck, I have been drinking so I’m on my way there too, buddy!   

Yeah i can see that. When i was 21 i would have gone wild. But then again if its my dream i dont know how i would act

ScottieD said 
 Don’t excuse your drunkenness and lack of professionalism with the fact that you “just turned 21.”  Get your shit together and seize that opportunity!

Didn’t you claim you’ve never had a drink or smoked weed in your life?

Lay off Tali man,not everyone is strong enough to be a teetotaler like you.

Pigg said
I think her response would have had a lot more clout if she hadn’t said the shit about the failing label and all of that. Kept it strictly business and not as bitter then she would have come off as someone who just got screwed over. 

 

Also, like everyone else, she said Shaggs was super cool and down to earth.   

everyone except goofy ass Necro lol.

Shaggy is the guy everyone wants to be friends with. He is, as someone put on here before, “That Dude”.

ScottieD said

What does that matter? I know plenty of people who do but would GLADLY get their shit together given a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.  

Then those people aren’t addicts. 

Nyro said

Old Mr Dangerous said

everyone except goofy ass Necro lol.

Shaggy is the guy everyone wants to be friends with. He is, as someone put on here before, “That Dude”.  

I have only liked one of his tracks ever. STD….it was funny to me. All the rest of his shit I have no use for.

 

(Meaning Necro not Shaggy)  

I enjoy quite a few of Necro’s tracks and a lot of his beats. His downfall is his “I’m an insufferable anusface 24/7” shtick.

ScottieD said

This whole conversation took a wrong turn somewhere. Her excuse was that she “just turned 21”, not that she was battling alcohol addiction.  The way she wrote it made it sound like she was irresponsible because of her age and the fact that she could now legally drink.  Stop spinning it as anything else.  

Oh, I was thinking more of when Violent J said she was an alcoholic. The point I was making is that if she was truly an addict that shit could have definitely held her back.
Between that and her lack of experience I guess.

Can I say something on addiction before we close that area of discussion on this thread? Before I decided on working solely with abuse victims I led several substance abuse groups through various hospitals while I was in college as kind of an internship thing. In school we were literally taught addiction is 70% mental and only 30% physical/systemic. I thought it was a load of crap because growing up where I did in St.Louis I had many friends who just couldn’t stop it seemed and they weren’t bad people they just had this issue.

Well, after a year of running these groups I noticed something. The strong willed ones after their time was up going to groups RARELY ever got in trouble again. HOWEVER the followers or weak minded ones came back pretty much a month later every time. I am talking more then a 70/30 rate for the strong willed independent characters like maybe 97%? However the ones that had nearly no self identity or self-esteem returned nearly a month after EVERY time.

I got to thinking and eventually did a thesis on ones personal mental state prior to addiction having a huge role on escaping addiction. Anyways the fact is addiction is real and it sucks. The ONLY way to cut down on it is to empower these people and help them realize that there are other ways to enjoy life that do not involve killing yourself slowly.

Don’t get me wrong I am pro legalization of marijuana and I think alchohol is great when you want to cut back. But there are some truly terrible substances out there that can ruin lives.

scruffy said
im surprised that any of you even care at all about this. 

but then, after the way two thirds of the forum went into spaz mode after blahzay…  guess i shouldnt be surprised. 

 

so, she says that ‘the truth of the matter is they just couldn’t handle my outspoken, headstrong female personality.’ 

i wouldnt want headstrong, outspoken people comin into my business and bein outspoken and headstrong.  it would get old real quick.  and, bein my business, n all, i would tell em that i aint havin it.  if my brand new employee who wants to someday be a partner couldnt handle that, id send em right the fuck on. 

 

about the ‘lay off her, shes an addict’ thing… 

you can [and maybe should, maybe] give an addict sympathy. 

you do not, however, give an addict money, or responsibility.  and you definitely dont rely on em for anything. 

so let us not go round talkin bout ‘give an addict a break’.  they get a break literally every time they fix.   

Actually the worst thing you could do is show sympathy. Empowerment and sympathy are two entirely different entities. You empower them by showing them a better way of handling life without their addiction…you sympathize by coddling them and giving them money and by doing so you are enabling them and giving them more excuses.

So I agree with you 100% . Not sure if you understand what you said is exactly what I meant.

Who the Hell is this bitch again?