God damn I am sick of juggalos whining about how it was so much better back in the day and blah blah blah woe is me, lets break out the tiny violin.

Yes that seminar is excellent, but ICP has not lost the spark, and truth be told, they are better on stage now than they ever have been. They fucking suck at throwing faygo in all their old videos. They got lazy? sounds to me like you are too lazy to still see the magic of icp.

Bands (and people) age, change, develop, and ICP has done a damn fine job of this. Get the fuck out of the dark carnival if your ticket has expired.

That footlong joint though…

darklotusfaygo said
Lmao. C’mon dude, seriously. You’re what in your mid 30’s, still saying you’re apart of the “dark carnival” do you seriously get what that sounds like? 

 

I can recall having hotlines, weekly freekly’s, and all sorts of shit every week back in the day. I could care less about throwing faygo or what they are like on stage now. I started listening to ICP when my step bro gave me a copy of milenko and riddlebox to listen to and been listening every since. Probably 98/99ish. I don’t know anyone that’s ever going HOLY FUCK NEW ICP ALBUM blah blah blah. Now it just feels like it’s just another album. 

 

It doesn’t take a genious to see that PSY is losing there fanbase more and more each year. All the OLD “juggalos” i knew are pretty much gone. Even my friend that was a die hard icp fan really don’t even care about them anymore. So c’mon with that shit.

I completely disagree. That ringmaster show looked off the hook. I’ve never not had fun at an icp show. I’ve never seen them “lose their spark”. I been listening a little bit longer than you and I’m glad to be back into this shit. I kinda pulled out during the tempest years but the new jokers cards are fantastic. 

It doesn’t take a genius to know that people come in and out. For every juggalo that grows out of it and decides the carnival ain’t for them, theres a new 14 year old ready to jump in. If their shit doesn’t work for you, then that’s cool. It ain’t for you then. Maybe you out grew them. It’s no biggie.

When the tempest related albums were coming out, I was checked out 100%. I didn’t go to shows, I didn’t buy merch. I checked out each of the albums and was glad I did’t buy them. I thought they’d lost their way. A lot of ninjas love those albums. I recently tried to go back and relisten to them and still felt like they were absolute garbage. Those albums weren’t for me. It’s no big.

I Sat down and watched that seminar today. Really brings back  memories from that era of my life.

Neverthrive said

darklotusfaygo said
I don’t know anyone that’s ever going HOLY FUCK NEW ICP ALBUM blah blah blah.

I may not be an OG juggalo, but I’ve been a fan long enough, and I’m still excited for every new album they put out, be it ICP or even something like Killjoy CLub. 

Now it just feels like it’s just another album. 

That’s how you feel. Your statements feel a little too broad. 

It doesn’t take a genious to see that PSY is losing there fanbase more and more each year. All the OLD “juggalos” i knew are pretty much gone. Even my friend that was a die hard icp fan really don’t even care about them anymore.

Again, that’s only your personal experiences. You can’t speak for a whole culture based only on your sole perspective. Some people move on, that’s true, but it’s not as though this goes only one way. There’s new juggalos all the time. 
If you’re not personally feeling it any more, then maybe it’s you who’s lost your spark, and not them. 

Minus the KillJoy Club….^this^

The person I’ve been listening to new Jokers Cards with since AJB was the new one, is still  listening to new Jokers Cards with me and we both still speculate on em. Because the magic is still there. At least for me, and quite a few people I know. Some of em are new Juggaos and some of em are old Juggalos. That’s just my experience though. The reality is that ICP numbers pretty much stay a constant. Sometimes their albums do a little better or worse but for the most part, they remain the same. (Debut high on the Billboard then drop off but, unlike most artists that debut high, steadily climb in sales over the years)

In regards to them getting lazy

In the past couple years they’ve released music more frequently (to the best of my knowledge) than they ever have. House of Wax, Missing Link Lost, Missing Link Found, Missing Link Outtakes, Phantom, Killjoy Club, and they’ve both been working on solo albums and touring pretty much nonstop. That’s a brutal fucking work ethic. 

Basically “If you’re not personally feeling it any more, then maybe it’s you who’s lost your spark, and not them”

If you don’t think Phantom EP is a spark or a light of sunshine for ICP, then I dunno what else to say.