"Juggalos are splitting themselves up"....

GTFOH with that shit.

Juggalos are coming to terms with their own innate sense of what they know (think) is right and wrong.

There's immutable truths running through all this shit that everyone is talking about but no one wants to come to terms with fully.

What Otis did: IS WRONG

What Twiztid and MNE did, is and has been doing: IS WRONG

And those two things do not make a right.

Juggalos saying Fuck Otis or Fuck Twiztid are simply expressions of what they KNOW IS WRONG about all this. "Picking a side" isn't about suddenly not liking songs and the ability to enjoy them disappears from your brain... it means AT THE LEAST acknowledging those two SIMPLE FACTS: Otis is wrong and Twiztid/MNE is doing wrong by both themselves AND to the juggalo nation that MADE THEM.

There is no Twiztid without the Juggalos and there are no Juggalos without ICP. The snake bites it's own tail...

Old Mr Dangerous said 

Time for I TOLD YOU SO. All.of you that said Twiztid (particularly Monoxide) weren't calling both blatant and subliminal disses this whole time: I TOLD YOU SO.

I too remember getting shit for calling this out awhile ago. The diss in "Down With Us", "Down Here", it couldn't have been about anything else. I recognized it the moment I heard it. And folks were telling me it wasn't. Pffffft! I guess... I TOLD YOU ALL SO TOO!

T.O. said
Anyone else feel like Psy kinda fucked FLH on this one? It feels like Scottie didn't even know they were gonna show this. He just posted a status update on the interview one day before the juggalo show, basically saying "we are still editing it and hope it will be done soon". I assume if he would have known they were gonna show it, he would've included that piece of information..  

 I'm sure he emailed them the file...

Everybody should stop the blame game. It's beef between two parties, they need to man the fuck up and fix it. Are we twelve years old? 

ICP seem like they're not sorry that they tricked themselves. Here's to the wicked shit.

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86 said

Seriously? Come on, you seem like an intelligent ninja, you know the history.  

exactly. we can start new posts for everything both sides did wrong... the lists go on and on. But for so long they were able to keep it together until now.

The Warlock said

wow..

could you elaborate on what theyve done thats so wrong?? 

86 said

Seriously? Come on, you seem like an intelligent ninja, you know the history.  

@86 Thank you, sir.

@Warlock Would it help you out more if I gave you something to pick apart and rescind?

If you can't figure the Otis shit is "wrong", that's on you. I guess your dick doesn't have as many complications.

If you don't think Twiztid/MNE signing and posting YW the day before ICP was to make their own "big announcement" as "fucked up", that's also on you.

I'm not about to expound on your ignorance/apathy otherwise.

It's a lot easier to sit on the hill and deflect shit thrown at you than it is to step out and ICP (and Jumpsteady) have been totally upfront on this shit while Twiztid takes potshots. This shit REMOVES any wall between them and at this point it BEHOOVES Twiztid to speak their mind! They rejected the march, they rejected Psychopathic when they signed YW and they reject the juggalos by NOT speaking out as if someone got all this wrong...

Fuck MNE, Fuck Psychopathic. I want the Dark Carnival to live on! They are THE SHOW! They can struggle all they want put they ARE "The Band". Splitting shit up only waters things down.

But I guess even Disneyland has to bulldoze a few rides to make way for more fun experiences... Mr. Toad's Wild Ride had to go to make way for something new... The Dark Carnival might not be that different.

Cheshyr said

The Warlock said

wow..

could you elaborate on what theyve done thats so wrong?? 

86 said

Seriously? Come on, you seem like an intelligent ninja, you know the history.  

@86 Thank you, sir.

@Warlock Would it help you out more if I gave you something to pick apart and rescind?

If you can't figure the Otis shit is "wrong", that's on you. I guess your dick doesn't have as many complications.

If you don't think Twiztid/MNE signing and posting YW the day before ICP was to make their own "big announcement" as "fucked up", that's also on you.

I'm not about to expound on your ignorance/apathy otherwise.

lol.. i was asking yakk to expound on what he thinks icp did wrong.. like ive already stated.... i think twiztids in the wrong.. and agree with your points.. was this post meant for yakk??

Omd if i remember the thread correctly i was disputing frankenstein being a diss track and i still do. Have yall seen other artists take shots at eachother? They are never that subtle. When eminem dissed icp you knew, no questions asked. But like you said, if im wrong i will shut the fuck up and remain humble. Cant even remember the thread in question.

Look, all I was saying was beg is the wrong word. Real men dont fucking beg lol. Its unbecoming. Maybe cave to demands not in their favor. Never beg. I just dont see it. Yall can if you want. No worries.