Miklo Velka said

You didn’t watch the show, did you.

He admitted to begging them to play the Gathering.  

You dont think maybe he is trying to come of as the reasonable one in the public eye? I love j too but come the fuck on

Miklo Velka said
You act like Twiztid was supposed to be signed to Psychopathic for life.

not really.. dont take shots at the people who made you.. simple rule to follow..

The Warlock said

Miklo Velka said
You act like Twiztid was supposed to be signed to Psychopathic for life.

not really.. dont take shots at the people who made you.. simple rule to follow..  

while I agree with that @the-warlock , you have to ask yourself what got Twiztid mad enough to take shots?

Makaveli said
So can Twiztid never talk about this cuz ICP made them sign something?   

No, they can talk.

Maybe they don’t have Scottie D on speed dial like ICP does though….

The Warlock said

 

only they know..

not enough cds getting ordered and feeling underpaid aint enough reason in my book.. can you really trust some muthafuckas who are that shady to give an honest answer tho??  

True, but J hasn’t exactly been overly honest himself in the past.

86 said

True, but J hasn’t exactly been overly honest himself in the past.  

ive definitely caught him in lies over the years.. nothin big tho..

Anyone else feel like Psy kinda fucked FLH on this one? It feels like Scottie didn’t even know they were gonna show this. He just posted a status update on the interview one day before the juggalo show, basically saying “we are still editing it and hope it will be done soon”. I assume if he would have known they were gonna show it, he would’ve included that piece of information..

86 said

Makaveli said 
This REALLY sucks… I don’t even give a shit about YW and never have and yet he’s apparently responsible for all this bs.

He absolutely is and it’s a fucking CRIME that our world is being ripped apart over him. FUCK YOUNG WICKED…FUCK YOUNG DICKHEAD.  

“Our world” is only being ripped apart if juggalos let it be… Fuck that shit, think for yourself ninjas! You don’t know these people. 

(Not a shot at you @86 This is all just getting so lame because us juggalos are making it that way IMO)

Old Mr Dangerous said
@Slumerican502 my homie… remember not too far back when we were all discussing that unfortunate first glimpse into the Twiztid ICP bad relations? Around the Green Book era when the very first public disupte reared it’s ugly head? J going on AOL drunk and spilling his side of the story? Him denouncing Twiztid and even Zug Izland at that point?

Anyone have a transcript of that infamous rant? Either way, it doesn’t matter.

What’s important is that you argued and lashed out that we were all making it up until we showed you the evidence. You were humbled enough by this when it was shown.

This is not much different. Check the sources first and listen with an open mind. And consider a few things:

Insane Clown Posse is huge. They always will be. They are imprinted on society forever. Thus, they do not have anything to gain by wanting to keep Twiztid in good relations OTHER than for personal reasons.

Meaning, of course J begged them to stay in good graces with them. At the least, neutrality. Is it that crazy to think that these guys maybe have developed camaraderie and love for these Twiztid guys who just seem to flip out on them over and over? Unconditional love type of shit? Maybe they want their feelings spared more than anything. They are millionaires. It’s lonely at the top. Maybe it hurts them more to see their friends act mutinous than it is to lose them as “business partners”. Icp can and always will survive financially well without Twiztid. 

Maybe only the two scrubs Joe and Joey really meant the lyrics they spit in such tracks as “Juggalo Family” and “Homies”. Maybe the Phatso, the Chainsmoker and the Dead Man were just trying to get a jump.off. 

ICP have nothing to gain. Twiztid have the world to gain.

 

Young Wicked, Otis, whatever you want to call that goofball.. the whole Axe Murder Boys ordeal from THE START… that whole shit to me has been the most humiliating, exasperating blemish on the entire Psychopathic saga. From the Playaz Lounge Crew being better IMO and having should’ve won that contest to this Otis character pulling treachery moves and running to MNE for shelter, it’s all embarrassing as FUCK.

I remember having friends over showing them Psychopathic The Videos during a party and almost having a full blown panic attack of shame when AMB’s videos came on. I had to run up to the DVD player mumbling something about something just to divert their attention and skip to something credible. I’m not exaggerating at all: AMB made me blush and freak out at my own party. They are the epitome of everything that I loathe about Juggalo culture. It was always a mistake and FUCK Violent J and his too-big heart in trying to put those kids on for so long. I may say the same about Blahzay but I have zero emotional involvement with her. I think she is solid enough and shows respect enough. I don’t care. Her fucking face doesn’t offend me like those two meth sucking Denver foreskins do.

Time for I TOLD YOU SO. All.of you that said Twiztid (particularly Monoxide) weren’t calling both blatant and subliminal disses this whole time: I TOLD YOU SO.

Nice tidbit: I haven’t bought one thing from Twiztid post-PSY. They havent impressed me enough to warrant my money. There have been maybe four songs they’ve released I like. None that I love.

However, I’ve purchased both Missing Links, Phantom:Extra Spooky and the Outtakes. They’re enjoyable enough for my cash.

I told you so. Am I happy about this? Nope. But life goes on.  

@old-mr-dangerous you make a lot of good points, but you gotta ask, what was the reason for all the subliminal Twiztid disses over the years? The rants from J you speak of, that’s all the juggalos ever get to hear. J’s rants and now Jump’s (although that was aimed more at Otis). Aside from a very brief interview or comment here or there, when have we ever been able to hear Twiztid’s side of the story? In full depth and detail like we’ve heard from J? 

There’s two sides to every story is all I’m getting at, but most seem to be taking Viloent J’s word as god and that’s it… What if the tables were turned and this was ICP taking shots at Twiztid for whatever reason to start the “beef”? What if Violent J banged Monoxide’s daughter and we saw a video podcast with Mono like the one we saw from Jumpsteady a few weeks ago talkin the same type of bullshit? I bet no one would be making a big deal then because it was ICP and they can do no wrong right…?