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May 11, 2012
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So Everybody knows the rumor going around about Boondox might be leaving but this is not only time rumors like these been going around in 2003 there was a rumor going around that they were leaving and starting there own label never happen. Then  anther rumor about Blaze leaving never Happend and there are those who do end leaving Abk left a while but then he came back Zug left ever Alex who started it left and made billy bill CEO amb left but came back then they left again  and the list goes on          


May 11, 2012
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zug didn't leave. zug died a slow death. anyone that stands up 2 joe and questions his moves, gets the boot ! yell

K R U S H - K I L L - D E S T R O Y !

May 11, 2012
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Speculation that Boondox is leaving. Tom Dub was convincing Twiztid to leave. Blaze was going to be kicked when his first record was released selling like 600 or 6,000 records. AMB won a 1 year RECORD DEAL through a tournament then signed to HH due to Clay and Fillin. ABK left to focus on NWI and certain things also occured. Zug wasn’t generally liked among Juggalos and they left alongside Escam. Lavel was never really signed. J-10 was never signed as well. Alex retired and gave control to Billy Bill. PJB was booted the same way as Myzery and Blaze was supposed to due to poor record sales. Not everything is Joes doing kiddies.

May 11, 2012
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Lil Pig is still in psy is only zug member that stayed

May 11, 2012
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abk stated in an interview right after he left it was cuz of contract negotations & j said the entire psy records sat down & listened to gods hand & decided to sign them again lmao @ clay & fillin havin that power clay cant even perform his songs i think hes only done it once lol & marz was j's fault

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May 11, 2012
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no disrespect but what’s the point of this thread? im sure we’re all aware dox isnt the 1st artist to leave the hatchet

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May 11, 2012
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Thought Clay was put in semi control of HH. I mean they did that with that rock subsidiary that Mike P.(?) or Syn was part of and the strickly hip hop subsidiary that Mc Breed was part of Urban Music Zone. Marz was like Lavel never really signed.

May 11, 2012
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just saying this isn't the 1st time the rumors going around that someone is leaving our that someone has left 

May 11, 2012
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Rude Boy left also

May 11, 2012
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iLLtheClown said:

Thought Clay was put in semi control of HH. I mean they did that with that rock subsidiary that Mike P.(?) or Syn was part of and the strickly hip hop subsidiary that Mc Breed was part of Urban Music Zone. Marz was like Lavel never really signed.

true but he was supposed to be they gave him a big slot on the 2001 sampler

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May 11, 2012
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Mike Clark Left in 2002 came back a few yrs later

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BigGameJames said:

Mike Clark Left in 2002 came back a few yrs later

mike said in an interview bizarr bizaar was the last time he worked with them so the dark lotus & ff3 songs were already made so it was 01 (technically '00) – 05 when he came back & remixed two songs for ff4 & started workin on ftfo

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I wish the best for Boondox.  Zug Izland was dope to me but what happened happened I guess.  Syn was on the radio with J a few years back after they had already left the label so it didn't sound like there was much bad blood between them over it (although Esham was also on the radio station with J around that same time acting all friendly when according to him J was busy fucking him over and blah blah blah).  Here's my issue with Psychopathic.  In general, I feel like they've just gotten lazy.  I can't really tell WHAT the problem is because I still like most of the music I hear from them honestly.  Wasn't a fan of South of Hell or Gang Ragz (original version) aside from a few songs on each album though because it just felt forced and old to me like all of it had already been done.  They need something to freshen the label up and make it exciting and interesting again.  They need to sign some new, serious talent to their label and not guys like Cold187 and Vanilla Ice who (no offense to the guys) are way past their time.  And while I still enjoy a lot of the music like I said rarely does any of it feel really new and original and different from before except for minor cases here and there.  Just my opinion but interested to hear others thoughts on the label as far as what I was speaking on above

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yeah i cosign ice & 187 being past their prime personally im likin less & less of the music nowadays tho however i feel it is original its not like their rehashin old shit (a few songs off bpb aside) but yeah i agree they need to get some new talent or resign some old beasts like myzery & amb

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i'll just throw my 2 cents in as a down ass ninja since The Great Milenko dayz…

Project Born – according to the forgotten freshness booklet info behind “graveyard”, PJB felt psychopathic was fuckin' them but Psychopathic only fucks bitches, since then PJB have toured with Twiztid, and have I.C.P. on thier “Born Dead 2” album, which by the way is Dope as Fuck, hella underrated album if you ask me… ( I got to hang out with Nitty and Pint when they came to seattle with Twiztid, those are some Chill Down ass Dudes ) and thier set fucking Rocked!

 

Myzery – left Psychopathic to be with his Girlfriend

 

Blaze – never left

Twiztid – never left

 

A.B.K.  – left because his Merchandise money (t-shirts, bandannas, ect.) wasn't going into his pockets, he had to make some negotiations with Psychopathic then he came back. I never got to hear his shit he did when he left for a little bit

Esham – wow, this is a hard one, there are obviously 2 sides to every story, did anyone else view his youtube videos he was posting explaining his side of the story?, he apparently felt like he wasn't getting his albums hyped up enough by Psychopathic, wasn't getting paid enough… I Don't know… somethin' like that, he just got real mad, I thought he left to restart Reel Life Productions… personally for me I Am a Fucking Huge Esham Fan and was geeked as hell when he signed, was dissapointed when he left, at least it was good while it lasted. According to Violent J in an interview (can't remember which one) Esham is a genuis and sometimes genuis's are just fucking Insane… bla bla bla I could rant about Esham and what happened to him on Psy… for a while

Rude Boy – ??? don't know why he's not around anymore

Alex Abbiss- ??? don't know why he left either

Tom Dub – whatever happened to this Ninja?

the Hornswogglin Hillbilly – from JCW, does anybody know if he got that Surgery? I remember J talking about tryin' to get this ninja into the hospital 'cause he wasn't healthy… they were going to try and save his life ???

A.M.B. – They won that internet contest, got signed. to Me AMB are dope as fuck, I really like thier style… I think in my own fucked up opinion though, that maybe Psychopathic thinks they're a little too much like Twiztid, so they didn't want to resign them… just my theory.

Zug Izland – They just kind of faded out after that Cracked Tiles album… which is a shame 'cause I thought they had thier own unique rock n roll flavor, the Prison Song is the shit! I could be wrong about Cracked Tiles being the last thing they did on psy. I just don't know, I met sin at the Gathering 04 though he was cool as fuck

D.J. Clay – his compilations are Dope, he's a good DJ, still havn't heard enough of his raps yet though, but what i have heard is cool!

JumpSteady – family and psychopathic 4 life obviously, but he left to become a paramedic ( not 100% sure, but that's what I remember reading )

Mike E. Clark –  stopped working with I.C.P. after Bizaar Bizzar because I.C.P. decided to have Mike P produce the 6th instead, then he went off and did his own thing for awhile, after the 6th though he reunited with the clowns and everything was cool again, Don't know whatever happened to Mike P (Wasn't he Zug Izland's homie???) personally I thought Mike P was just as good as Mike E they're both dope producers! but Mike E. Clark is the man behind the magic of the 1st Five joker cards.

Vanilla Ice – dude I remember like 4 or 5 maybe 6 years ago Ninjas saying that he got signed to Psychopathic, but I think it's been just pure Bullshit! if he was signed to Psychopathic I think he would of made at least a single by now, but Nothing. I Don't think he was ever really signed, but I Don't know PURE SPECULATION – the natural born killaz and born on halloween songs are pretty fucking dope though!

Marz – to be honest I don't remember why he got kicked out of Lotus, i know there was some drama about somethin' though, i'm sure it's on some old faygoluvers interview

Lavel – I saw him open for Twiztid on the freek show tour back in the day, thought he was hella Dope! his shit in Soopa Villianz is Fresh as fuck too, don't know why he never got to release a solo album, I think Psychopathic just had too much other stuff going on to really pay any attention to him.. did ya'll hear his Diss he did to Shaggy “glock in ya grill?” … fuck

The Dayton Family – what can I Say? Fucking Legends! I was listening to them before they signed with the Hatchet and when they got signed I was geeked! they've always been Dope. Hope they stay on Psychopathic (i don't really know if it's psy or hatchet house but what the fuck ever, to me it's the same damn label anyway)

Boondox – we've all been following the story, and heard the faygoluvers interview, so yeah… I think most everybody is bummed out but a new turncoat dirty album is gonna be Fresh! To Me, Young Dirt is even better, so i'm looking foward to that new gangsta shit and All his album he did with Psychopathic are Dope! legendary already. the whole concept of Boondox is dope, Does anybody remember when Violent J was talking about him and Shaggy making this really wierd album under the name “the bloody brothers”, they were going to be basicly like Jason Voorhees from Friday the 13th part 2 with the Potato bag over thier heads, distorted voices, deranged serial murderer hillbillies? I think Boondox was given this gimmick and freaked it though… still it would have been dope to hear that bloody brothers album come to fruition.

Cold 187um – i was a Huge RUTHLESS RECORDS fan before I got into Psychopathic, still am and I have all the Above The Law albums, and when I heard the news about him being signed to Psychopathic for a concept album I Got really Geeked, can't wait for this shit to drop! to me this is like WHOA! I never thought I would see this happen, now I know this deal is stricly for one album, 'cuz he's still releasing other solo shit with his alias Big Hutch, so smart move on 187's part, he probably realized the bullshit that goes down when you sign to a record company he's been in the industry since the 80's and shit, so even if There's  no 2nd album, I don't think there will be any bad blood developed if he “gets dropped from the label”

on a Side Note: The Bowling Balls movie has to be one of the Freshes things I.C.P. has ever done! I hope they make some more Cheezy Horror Movies in the Future, i would much rather see another Bowling Balls type of movie than a Big Money Hustlas part 3, Who wouldn't love to see ICP & Twiztid in thier own horror flick! and whatever happened to the Blaze shockumentary lol

May 23, 2012
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Tom Dubb got fired for causing a small beef between Twiztid and ICP during '02 – '03 (Majik Records). AA retired and gave control to Billy Bill the next person in charge should be C.C. Esham & Lavel (never signed) had issue with pay which they did receive but insisted they never received E & L should have sued but they never did wonder why. ABK went to focus on NWI but people said other things. Rude Boy retired due to diabetes. Marz (never signed) got into an argument with Joe over labels and over some other stuff. Myzery & PJB were dropped originally due to poor album sales when Para La Isla and Born Dead dropped.

May 23, 2012
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abk left cuz of contract negotiations he stated that in an interview with faygoluvers a few days after he left look it up.

marz also stated in a fl interview he was supposed to be signed but psy didnt out of the blue.

blaze retired for a bit in 03 supposedly that was js doing. & i remember hearing psy was gonna drop him for lack of ep sells but twiztid said theyd leave with him if that were to happen also wasnt there somethin in 01 that went down as well? haha

amb were dropped at the end of 06 (didnt appear on that yrs hatchet family xmas song) & resigned in 08 to hatchet house

i dont believe the myzery story it was prolly due to lack of sells

zug were switched to a sublabel & released that 3:33 or whatever album

i miss clays mixtapes although his last one was the worst

mike started again in '05 (ff4) the 6th ended in '04 (the calm was prod. by icp)

v-ice isnt signed theres been no word since the gathering almost one full year ago

daytons no longer signed theyve been doing shows with no promo from psy recently & were at hatchet attacks last year but not this years

lavel prolly wouldve been signed had he not left he was startin to do more & more in '05

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May 23, 2012
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Marz was removed from the tour and the psycopathic label for legal issues, Marz neglected to disclose to psychopathic records he was still under a contract to a different label. V.ICE is busy with his Tv show and some other things. No word on Dayton or V.ICE being dropped. AMB had a one year one record deal which is when Blood In, Blood Out came out. After they were removed till '08. In '00-'01 an altercation occured between people affiliated with Myzery & Twiztid.

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yeah theres been no “official” word of dox being dropped either haha

 

marz interview:

Whoop Whoop The Warlock :

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May 23, 2012
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You really gonna believe what someone says after being booted the way he was. Dox announced he was leaving. Marz was signed to another label without telling anyone. He later confirmed that in a later interview. You're slow or something.

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