Ive been listening to icp since back in the early 90"s and i hate to say they are very mainstream all of the label is to be honest…makes a true juggalo sad...And you don.t have to promoted by a company to be mainstream...hate to say to you from a former post....When you lose sight of whats important thats when you are mainstream...& hate to say it all of psychopatic is way to mainstream....

ICP takes any gig they can. Masking it with the excuse of 'being honored'. Nah they've always wanted to be mainstream. Even back in the 90's. But when the mainstream rejected them (aka didn't care about them at all), ICP started the anti-mainstream 'family' gimmick and used that to make money from outcasts. Now that the mainstream's calling again, ICP's right back to it. Remember they hired Beastie Boys publicists during Jeckel Brothers to get them gigs. I think we all remember them begging juggalos to get them on TRL back in the day.

Bottom line is don't believe entertainers that say they don't care about attention or mainstream success. That's the only reason they're in it lol. And the only reason they start saying stuff like that is because they're not getting attention or mainstream success. It's all really lame and shouldn't be taken seriously. I cringe when I see new juggalos pretending like they're apart of something that isn't mainstream when ICP these days is the definition of mainstream. Perfect example is ICP said they'd never do shows without Faygo. They've done a few recently. Like the homeless shelter show was for them to get a story in Maxim that they didn't even set up. Another example is them going on the George Lopez show. Everything was written for them and they had nothing to do with it. They just dressed up and went out and spoke someone else's lines. Or if you want to look at something they actually do, look at the infomercials. They know juggalos don't like them. But they continue doing them because they know mainstream eyes want to watch, goof on it, and cover it.

But all that being said, I'm old enough now to realize it's only the music that matters. MDP delivered on what I wanted to hear. And if they are gonna do mainstream gigs, hopefully they're funny and entertaining about it. I've enjoyed their commentary on those Fuse videos. It's like who cares. There is no mainstream and underground anymore with the internet. Just people who are getting attention and people who aren't.

I can't pretend like I know how they all work but that's not the point I was making. The point I was making is ICP will let other people decide what they say so they can get a little attention from mainstream eyes. That's not exactly being 'underground' and people should just drop that label completely. ICP is no different than any other band, mainstream or not. They're in it for money and attention. It's sickening when people think ICP is somehow different and will argue that ICP is underground. They're not.

its hard to be "underground' when you can pick up their shirts in the mall and when you have six platinum albums....but i wouldnt call them mainstream, theyre not radio or mtv but are they really underground nawww....they are some where in the middle for real now...plus hate all you want, i kinda feel like icp would like to be a lil more mainstream than they already are if you disagree listen to their music from way back and listen now...change is part of growth i understand but you gotta see some what of what im saying