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How many juggalos world wide?
January 4, 2015
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So I was listening to a interview with Madchild the other day where he was talking about his record company/movement Battle Axe. He mentioned that they have over 5,000 Battle axe warriors (easiest way of explaining this is… what juggalos are to ICP, Battle axe warriors are the Madchild) He went on to say its a one time $100 payment and you get a lifetime membership with benefits and all that good stuff. That got me thinking… If ICP was to take on his membership format and make a offical Juggalo membership… How many juggalos do you think would sign up by the end of 2015 lets say? I honestly have a clue… my guess would be, MAYBE 50,000?

January 4, 2015
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if icp charged a bill just for us to be juggalos, 90% of us would scream sellout and turn away forever.  

the rest would be too cheap to get it, and wait impatiently for the ‘juggalo club’ download to show up.  

  

so, zero.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

January 4, 2015
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scruffy said
if icp charged a bill just for us to be juggalos, 90% of us would scream sellout and turn away forever. 
  

Madchild said you can still be a battleaxe warrior without being a official member. Paying a bill and receiving tons of cool perks and benefits is actually pretty cool. The entire system they set up is pretty neat. So no, I dont think 90% of juggalos will turn away… I know one MOD that would but thats about it.

January 4, 2015
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whats a mod?  

  

your survey is far too new, to flatly declare that thats about it.  and i havent said what my choice would be, so even if it wasnt, the results are mad inconclusive.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

January 4, 2015
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theres a fun ton!! lol theres a ton in the US of course but you gotta factor in Europe and AU also id say theres wayyyy more then that!!

January 4, 2015
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i originally considered signing up for the battleaxe perks n shit then i discovered they want my money so i lol’d and clicked X. i like his music but i aint going to pay for a fan club.

Also if icp did something like this i would lol and click X again.

January 4, 2015
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yah i don’t see that ever happening, it would, like scruffy said, piss allot of people off. 

“This aint no fucking fan club, It aint about making a buck…” ICP doing that would be one of the most blatant hypocritical stunt they ever pulled.

"HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN, ONCE YOU SURRENDER THE ABILITY TO PROPERLY OPERATE YOUR MIND, YOU ARE THEN SURRENDERING THE ABILITY TO BE THE SHIT. AND THAT ONLY MEANS, YOU AINT SHIT ANYMORE."-SHAGGY2DOPE

January 4, 2015
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What does the battle axe warrior membership even give you? I mean Twiztid tried it and failed.

January 4, 2015
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This Psychopathic Review of Battleaxe Warrior membership might answer some questions. I camped with Battleaxe a few years ago at a Gathering and it seems to be a hardcore philosophy.

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January 4, 2015
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Free 2-day shipping for life.

January 4, 2015
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all im sayin, is that given that amount of shit that juggalos slung at violent js face over the box set [which is cheaper than this proposed deal], they would have to include a huge amount of goodies with this ‘membership’, to even make sale one.  

if a set of eight cds that we have been actively asking for for years doesnt go over any better than that, how can this possibly work?  think they sold fifty thousand box sets?  i dont.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

January 4, 2015
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I thought the baxwar thing came with continued perks or something.

i remember my homie and I had a lanyard from potluck that we were told would give us a free piece of merch at every concert of there’s forever. The first show we got a woman’s tank top, the next show they said it was only for that one tour.

January 4, 2015
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LuckyNumbrXIII said  
Brother, I cannot tell you enough times.  My qualm is not with the Box Set.  It’s a great deal for new juggalos.  My issue is with House of Wax being unavailable outside the set.  I dunno who else bitched about it, so I’m assuming you are recalling my complaining.    

me not talkin bout you.  

unless you think i am, in which case, i guess i am.  

ninjas would bitch about whatever exclusive bonus shit the ‘paid for’ juggalos got, too, would they not?  oh yes, they would.  

 

LuckyNumbrXIII said
Waive the “grace period.”  That’s fucking annoying.  Especially when I get a preorder 2 weeks after street date.  PRE orders man, the grace period should not exist because I paid for it months ago!

they have the ‘grace period’, cuz they need it.  they arent wal-mart.  i doubt they are able to get orders out inside of that period.  like, physically able.  the fuckin dons are doing package assembly, cmon.  

without that caveat, theyd have to refund every other order, or risk being a pet project of the better business bureau or somefuckinbody.  

wal-mart has that same kinda language in the fine prints.  they just dont need it, cuz they have distribution centers and fleets of trucks n shit.  

Maybe a monthly printed Hatchet Herald with goodies (singles, stickers, maybe shirts once in a while).  Gotta think: when the perks kick in, it’s good for the juggalos, but in the interim it’s good for Psy.  $7.99/month times however many juggalos are subscribed… on off months where you just send out a herald and a sticker, you just pinged possibly $10k.

and no ones gonna sound off about chargin eight bucks for a printout of the herald and a sticker…?  

no, the freshness meter will have to hover a lot higher than that, for this to work.  

  

i dont think its a very good idea.  its just like the lame-ass ‘vip’ meet n greets [same price and everything], only you dont get to meet anybody.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

January 4, 2015
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LuckyNumbrXIII said
I’d pay $100 a year to get rid of hatchet gears 3 week grace period with mandatory priority shipping. 

I’d fucking sign up today!! lol. No BS what so ever… I would have order numerous items off that site but due to the wait, 80% of the time I just dont order… Yes I hate waiting so much Id rather just not have the damn item, lol.

krunkazphuk said
I camped with Battleaxe a few years ago at a Gathering and it seems to be a hardcore philosophy.

100% it is! Its all about love, positive attitude, and helping each other out. Interesting enough, you have to go through a interview process to get in… not everyone is accepted. And once you become a member if you do something bad enough (dont know what that means) you get kicked out… all I can say is they are running a hell of a “fan club”, lol.

January 4, 2015
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I love MadChild and Swollen Members but I am too broke to be paying to join a membership club! Sounds Kinda cool I guess, and I would possibly signup if Psycopathic did one depending on the perks. 

A good idea would be to give members exclusive access to meet and greets at any psychopathic show (assuming there are not too many members) although this would be useless for me here in the UK as no one from Psychopathic has been here for over 10 years!

January 4, 2015
1:42 pm
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scruffy said

LuckyNumbrXIII said  
Brother, I cannot tell you enough times.  My qualm is not with the Box Set.  It’s a great deal for new juggalos.  My issue is with House of Wax being unavailable outside the set.  I dunno who else bitched about it, so I’m assuming you are recalling my complaining.    

me not talkin bout you.  

unless you think i am, in which case, i guess i am.  

ninjas would bitch about whatever exclusive bonus shit the ‘paid for’ juggalos got, too, would they not?  oh yes, they would.  

 

LuckyNumbrXIII said
Waive the “grace period.”  That’s fucking annoying.  Especially when I get a preorder 2 weeks after street date.  PRE orders man, the grace period should not exist because I paid for it months ago!

they have the ‘grace period’, cuz they need it.  they arent wal-mart.  i doubt they are able to get orders out inside of that period.  like, physically able.  the fuckin dons are doing package assembly, cmon.  

without that caveat, theyd have to refund every other order, or risk being a pet project of the better business bureau or somefuckinbody.  

wal-mart has that same kinda language in the fine prints.  they just dont need it, cuz they have distribution centers and fleets of trucks n shit.  

Maybe a monthly printed Hatchet Herald with goodies (singles, stickers, maybe shirts once in a while).  Gotta think: when the perks kick in, it’s good for the juggalos, but in the interim it’s good for Psy.  $7.99/month times however many juggalos are subscribed… on off months where you just send out a herald and a sticker, you just pinged possibly $10k.

and no ones gonna sound off about chargin eight bucks for a printout of the herald and a sticker…?  

no, the freshness meter will have to hover a lot higher than that, for this to work.  

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i dont think its a very good idea.  its just like the lame-ass ‘vip’ meet n greets [same price and everything], only you dont get to meet anybody.  

  

They shouldn’t announce the release date unless they are certain they can get the product to the consumers by that time. It’s bad business. They need a better logistical set up.

January 4, 2015
2:30 pm
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but why do that, when they can already sell vips for a buck each and not have to reorganize their entire shipping ‘system’?  

  

i promise you, they have kicked the idea around before.  on a regular basis, most likely.  

and they probably decided that it wouldnt work.  

 

madchild is the exception here, and not the exception proving the rule.  saying, ‘he did it, so it will work for everybody else, too’ assumes an awful lot.  

  

 

and yes, we will bitch either way.  

its a question of the lesser of two evils, minimizing damage, not asking for trouble.  whatever characterization youd like to use.  any way you slice it, the negative effects are impossible to ignore, without major mitigation [ie, mad free exclusive shit].  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

January 4, 2015
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What if it included a ticket to the gathering every year?

January 4, 2015
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piggofdoom said  
What if it included a ticket to the gathering every year?    

good luck convincin em to try that.  

  

what if it came with an exclusive ep with each song customized just for you?  and a hockey jersey with your name on it?  and a personal visit from shaggy on your birthday?  and a back rub?  

  

sure, you pile on enough freshness, it becomes a no-brainer.  but again, askin an awful lot, for the sake of a hypothetical.  

  

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

January 4, 2015
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Plus it has to be something that would actually make them money.

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