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Era of the new 6 better than the first? The Missing Link (Lost)
July 15, 2015
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Slinkee said
 In my opinion it is far better than The Mighty Death Pop! though.  To me TMDP feels more like a Forgotten Freshness than it does a Joker's Card (the songs don't seem to fit together for some reason). 

I really, honest to god do not understand people who say this. The Mighty Death Pop is one of the most cohesive and on point albums they've made. Thematically speaking, every song points to their three basic themes of things change (which can even be broken down into Things Get Better So Don't Throw Your Life Away, Things Get Worse So Don't Take Shit Foe Granted, and You Can Manipulate How Some Things Will Change So Make Smart Choices). 

and the way they organized the songs is just so on point. I can't listen to that album on shuffle. 

 

July 15, 2015
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RobTidwell said

Slinkee said
 In my opinion it is far better than The Mighty Death Pop! though.  To me TMDP feels more like a Forgotten Freshness than it does a Joker's Card (the songs don't seem to fit together for some reason). 

I really, honest to god do not understand people who say this. The Mighty Death Pop is one of the most cohesive and on point albums they've made. Thematically speaking, every song points to their three basic themes of things change (which can even be broken down into Things Get Better So Don't Throw Your Life Away, Things Get Worse So Don't Take Shit Foe Granted, and You Can Manipulate How Some Things Will Change So Make Smart Choices). 

and the way they organized the songs is just so on point. I can't listen to that album on shuffle. 

Don't get me wrong I don't think its a bad album, I just don't see it the same way you do.  Some songs like Juggalo Juice, Dog Catchers, Shooting Stars and others don't seem to fit to me.  I like those songs, I'm just saying they feel like songs that could have been put on a Forgotten Freshness (which I realize you could say about a lot of other songs on other albums), but for some reason it really sticks out to me in this album.

July 15, 2015
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nah, i didn't mean to say that you thought it was bad. 

Looking at Dog Catchers and Shooting Stars as examples, they're both about how celebrities were on top of their worlds, did something horrible, were dragged for it, and bounced back. So the carnival will have to take them out. It's all about the cyclical nature of change. 

Thematically speaking, not even good or bad or anything but just looking at it from a thematic perspective, it's so tight.

 

July 15, 2015
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i guess the best way to say what i'm trying to say is how do those songs not fit with your interpretation of the album?

 

July 15, 2015
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RobTidwell said

Looking at Dog Catchers and Shooting Stars as examples, they're both about how celebrities were on top of their worlds, did something horrible, were dragged for it, and bounced back. So the carnival will have to take them out. It's all about the cyclical nature of change. 

Thematically speaking, not even good or bad or anything but just looking at it from a thematic perspective, it's so tight.

I never saw those songs from that standpoint before.  I understand were your coming from and if you look at the songs the way you described them, they do fit.  I don't know how I never seen them that way.  So I would have to agree with you.  I do still think they individually sound like they could be on a Forgotten Freshness, but again, you could say that about plenty of songs.

July 15, 2015
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Having come into this kinda music in mid 2005 i have no nostalgia for the first deck. Having said that i still respect the shit of of all the music that came out before hell's Pit. The First time the clowns were played around the people i hang out with was The Amazing Jeckle Brothers so for that album i hold it in very high regards but i cant stand The Carnival of Carnage> No Matter how menny listens  listens there is not one time i was played straight thru. It was The Same way with ringmaster for the longest time but it grue on me. I have love for the OG 6 Cards but would rather have any of the new deck played instead. From looking all over the internet and watching a tun of youtube videos its clear that im in the minority with this vew. Having The Calm Be the first cd that i could go out and bump when it was "the New Shit" That Ep is one of the Best ICP ever put out witch is far from what most others think. The Tempist is top 3 that icp has ever put out from beats to rimes and BPB TMDP are classics to me with almost no songs i skip regularly. Starting to feel like im one of the only Juggalos out there that thinks this way.

  The Missing link (Lost) was a good LP but i Coulden't Stand the Beats Picked for it. The tracks seemed to drag on with no reftrances to the album its self or older cards witch most new ones don't do but it was kinda a let down. After The Single Vomit the album was looking like it was going to be in the vain of Riddle Box But with an updated sound witch go me hype for it only to be let down by the more COC feel. With that in mind Missing Link (Found) Seems like it Will be going back to the sound that has become more common. Im hoping for that on Found but it seems like im the only one. Is there other Lo's out there that like the New Sound better? of is it just me. 

You're not the only on. I love The Tempest, one of the few albums that never leaves my mp3 player.

It's cool how some cds grow on you or when you first listen you don't feel it but it could be weeks or years later and you are like "how the fuck did I miss this?", I just went through that with garcia brothers. also check out bloodstep -grand theft ufo if you dont know and want something fresh.

July 15, 2015
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RobTidwell said

Slinkee said
 In my opinion it is far better than The Mighty Death Pop! though.  To me TMDP feels more like a Forgotten Freshness than it does a Joker's Card (the songs don't seem to fit together for some reason). 

I really, honest to god do not understand people who say this. The Mighty Death Pop is one of the most cohesive and on point albums they've made. Thematically speaking, every song points to their three basic themes of things change (which can even be broken down into Things Get Better So Don't Throw Your Life Away, Things Get Worse So Don't Take Shit Foe Granted, and You Can Manipulate How Some Things Will Change So Make Smart Choices). 

and the way they organized the songs is just so on point. I can't listen to that album on shuffle. 

ICP's verses on "Fools" pretty much sum up the entire album in the course of 30-40 seconds IMO.

Let your freak flag fly and run naked through the Forrest

July 16, 2015
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The whole new deck's story is great IMO it's just been the beats.  Especially MDP. Mdp had the weakest beats, the style they went for on that cd I didn't enjoy at all. I would of liked them to continue BPB's style. They had something going there. Then they brought MDP's style in and it just fucked everything up. IMO. But then we got lost which was a breath of fresh air tbh. I'm curious what Found is going to sound like, should hear the single tonight at midnight

July 19, 2015
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I don't really wanna speak on both eras without sounding like I'm hating but for real? This new era is a different direction for them, but with the original six nobody knew what to expect after the 6th was dropped. There was anticipation growing after each release. I think its a lot different now. I don't think the new era is any better. They should have just left it alone with the first 6 but after $eeing how much they can profit from it all, why not. Any era won't be better than the original. Cause at least then we didn't have 'expectations' in hopes of something sounding a certain way.

July 19, 2015
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better to have a new deck than nothing at all

July 19, 2015
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sketchez said 
better to have a new deck than nothing at all   

yeah, youd think, right? 

and yet... 

 

well, i, for one, am not gonna whine for years about it, if i dont like what they do.  stating it once or twice should be quite sufficient. 

in the meantime, its not like the music i already have [and like] is suddenly valueless.  dont need to love the new shit. 

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

July 20, 2015
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sketchez said
better to have a new deck than nothing at all

Nope... In my opinion at least. I still want them to put out music, but never wanted (and still don't want) a second "deck". Fuck new Juggalos who weren't around in the 90's to experience the original six. Blame your parents for not fucking sooner!

July 20, 2015
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RobTidwell said
nah, i didn't mean to say that you thought it was bad. 

Looking at Dog Catchers and Shooting Stars as examples, they're both about how celebrities were on top of their worlds, did something horrible, were dragged for it, and bounced back. So the carnival will have to take them out. It's all about the cyclical nature of change. 

Thematically speaking, not even good or bad or anything but just looking at it from a thematic perspective, it's so tight.

Damn, dude. That message was lost on me. Good observation. Death Pop was just okay to me (half of the album was great and other half was skippers) but I'm definitely listening to it again with this in mind. 

July 25, 2015
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It all just comes down to taste man. I love it all, new and old. Listening to the old stuff for so long, I just got sick of listening to the same songs over and over again. Hearing the newer stuff for the first time when I actually listened to it and stopped being close minded thinking the old stuff was better, it was like a breath of fresh air.

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