stretchSquiggles said
sometimes i wish J wouldmake an account and post on here to defend his decisions XD alot of the time it seems yall send so much flack his way with out really knowing whats going on behind the scenes.

 

and to keep with the topic, i’m going to have to say i pretty much disagree with everything darkfaygo said. 

oh lord no. i hope like fuck he never does shti like that. while i dont agree with some stuff he does etc, he doesnt have to justify himself to me or anyone else. if you dont like it, dont listen. 

you start down that path, he is gunna end up looking like a crybaby retard. could you imagine what people in this forum would do to him? they would eat him alive.

and @darklotusfaygo waht album was mixed/mastered so poorly? i mean you can really ahve expected super high quality on there first few albums. they had a tiny little budget and barely any exposure outside of detroit. if any. and it was the 90s.

i thought that TML was mixed as good as the previous 2 cards and i really dig otis’ production. but the beats on TML were definitely an extreme difference from the previous 2 cards.

shouldnt all you people be at the gathering?

how long has otis been doing this shit professionally compared to mike p, seven and mec though? at best like 6 or 7 years to 15 – 25 odd years from teh other guys? otis has only really gotten good in the last few years (he mixed all of garcia bros yeah?) but i still think hands down he is the most talented dude at psychopathic atm (sorry, please dont hit me). he is a talented rapper/singer/producer/engineer. which you dont see alot of from where im sitting. im hanging out for slaughter. its number one on my list of releases this year.

personally i dont see your problem with seven on TML. you keep ragging on him. personally i think it comes across like you are being a a bit of a psy purist. ok dont get all upset, im not trying to start a fight. how much production has seven actually done for icp over the years. i cant imagine it is a great deal. 

i like them experimenting, and that definitely what TML felt like. 

As for another lotus album. it aint happening. EVER. we might get one more rydas (unlikely but more likely that another lotus album) but mud, air water was it for lotus. i would be willing to put money on a bet that was one of  the terms of the contract tqiztid had being terminated. one lotus album among other things. it came at too convenient a time to be anything else. i doubt icp and twiztid will ever work together again. they are riding two very different trains going in opposite directions now.

For all the joking that twiztid is heading mainstream, it looks incredibly close to the truth. they are doing what kungfu vampire did. he took offf the paint and now he just looks like a mexican gangbanger.

Your lucky next years gathering is an option. i doubt ill be making it next year. im hoping to get to america next year, but i doubt itll be around gathering time.

but ill be faygoluvers hunting. i plan to get well shitfaced with atleast 10 – 15 of the regulars.

darklotusfaygo said
I’m not saying seven’s production for ICP is horrid, it’s not. I liked it but I rather have that on an EP. Otis isn’t bad at all. I dug a few of the tracks. I liked garcia brothers and gods hand for the most part. No complaints there. I just expect more from ICP that’s all. You gotta understand I been listening to icp since 96-97ish. I understand they been around for 20+ years and they gotta keep things refreshing, I understand that. But why change things up that was working for them? All 3 albums, IMO have been expiremental. Bpb, Mdp and Lost were all just like random styles thrown together personally. It’s not that they lost there touch on putting together a good album, it’s the beat selection. And i’m not the only one that feels this way. I understand the “wicked shit” is played out, but so is the happy/positive vibe of icp. Idno the way I look at the two decks is, I feel like the old deck had not only more stories to tell and messages but the chemistry was there the whole time. I just don’t feel like any chemistry is here on these cards. I’ll always listen to icp till they stop they left an impression on me lol

don’t play the ‘ive been a juggalo longer than most’ card. i have too. and i live in a different country.

all icps shit is experimental. i felt like lost definitely had a more EDM vibe than anything else. and have 3/4 producers on and album  is gunna make things vary heavily then if they had used only 2.

perfect example is yelawolf. he made an album (his debut radioactive) that his label thought his fans would like, and it was fucking horrible. like really fucking bad. like i got angry and snapped my preorder in half bad. 3/4 years later he releases the album he always wanted to do and its fuckign weird. but its 100% pure fucking gold.

let ICP do what they want. thats when they are going to produce the best stuff. you said yourself you like what, half a dozen songs on Lost? what more do you want? its 14 tracks long for christ sake, not every album is gunna be pure gold, theres ALWAYS some filler (House of wax excluded).

I think Seven i like seven working with teh n9ne more than icp but i like seven so im happy either way.

RobTidwell said
yeah, the intro bites. lol. I always skip it and you should know, every single time.

Back when Twiztid were around, by the time they got to mirror mirror I realized i don’t see music the same way they do and I never will. I still check them out and every now and then theres a song here and there that I like, but I know instantly that they’ll never be HOK again and they’ll never make music like that again so I stopped buying their cds. 

I stopped getting disappointed in them. lol. I’m not saying that you have to stop listening to ICP if you don’t love everything they do, not at all, but you know you gotta get to a place in your head where you can either appreciate the choices they made or stop caring so much about the choices they make. Or grow out of them and listen to shit you do like.

see i disagree there also, i think twiztid ahve evolved with the time. and relaly do you think it could ever go back to hok days?

sketchez said
why the fuck anybody give a fuck, they’ve been changing up styles for decades

because those of us who are not going to the gathering this year need something to talk about while the forum is dead as fuck.

I call bullshit this spot is popping while the gathering is on…at least it has been the last two years I haven’t gone

I don’t give a fuck what ICP sounds like these days as long as they’re happy with their music.  Ive got the old shit to listen to it’ll hold me over as long as they still put the same awesome live show on…

Edit: Im pretty sure the most users ever gets set and broken each year while people are tryna get info from the gathering…making it the opposite of dead as fuck.

OCJ_Brendan said
I call bullshit this spot is popping while the gathering is on…at least it has been the last two years I haven’t gone

 

I don’t give a fuck what ICP sounds like these days as long as they’re happy with their music.  Ive got the old shit to listen to it’ll hold me over as long as they still put the same awesome live show on…

 

Edit: Im pretty sure the most users ever gets set and broken each year while people are tryna get info from the gathering…making it the opposite of dead as fuck.

We usually get all the info before the actual people attending do. We have all eyes in there reporting what they see as they see it.