i remember getting the og tales form the gathering 2001 when it was released. i never really liked marz. i felt he sounded fake and is a bad rapper. so a year later when it was re-released at the gathering 2002 i loved killas additions. they coulda just cut marz's verses out and ida been cool with that. black rain is the weakest of the trio, it was a little rushed and came off the whole icp/twiztid beef in 02-03 and shaggys verses are kinda shitty. opaque brotherhood is the absolute shit. eric davie and kuma produced one the darkest albums ever released on psy. we should be getting a new lotus in 2013. icp released an album, twiztid released an album, blaze and killa can do drive by simultaneously(if abk returns?????) we need to demand it LOTUS2013!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Marz was so rugged and raw back then, he fit perfectly on that album. And ABK always pulled lotus down, yes warlock, it's a fact. Violet J comes out talkin about being the "virgin pussy popper, neck chopper" (dope) and ABK "sprinkles dust in your drink to make your head shrink??" Get the fuck out, wack ass rapper!!

Y'all are retarded lol