I think its time too… 

Everything u said sounds crazy cool man. 

I could go for a beast.

Maybe a beast that makes u forget ur compass till its too late.

Maybe u can realize its happening and stop it.

Demon maybe…

Loose ur way.

Kinda of like an illusion but it stems from inside. I dunno. Sounds cool u like kicked my imagination.

With the repetition of the words the way they have been using it, I’m thinking of a bloody Mary or Candyman type character.

They linked it to the fuck my dad song through the video so it’s possible that It’s tied to running away from responsibility.

I wouldn’t put too much stock in the compass stuff only because ICP don’t typically take something that’s already a thing and put it out in that manner with out changing it up.

Example: missing link is nothing like “the missing link” in terms of evolutionary discourse. The wraith was similar to other interpretations of death / the grim reaper, but not identical and the albums were more about what happens after you meet the wraith. 

Don’t think it’ll be tied in to any other cards very deeply. Like, the album will probably reference them but that’s about it. . All the cards of this deck are kind of following a pattern of being about a specific moment or feeling but this one will be on the nose with it like Death Pop. 

As far as the name goes I think it’ll be some alliteration  involving “F”. I’ve been saying “Fantastically Frantic Fred”. I dunno about that specifically but “Frantic Fred” seems believable. It’s a card that is summoned when someone is one the verge of going off. He is summoned and makes you frantic–or in short hand–makes you see red (thus Red Fred”), and pushes you to the level of being “bad”. The album will be various examples of what he’s capable of pushing you to do. Thus it tying in with “Fuck my dad”. It’s not because his dad was shitty. It was because Red Fred took hold of J and pushed him over the edge. 

Fred is the reason that we go from angry, sad, or jealous to furious or suicidal. Frantic basically. 

Basically it’ll be a card that lives off of possessing people.  

Also don’t think the cover will follow the typical Card motif. I can see it being an all red cover with the outline of the face on it. I’m sure they’ll release a “classic” cover as well but first print won’t be that. Look at the cover of Terror Wheel. It’ll be something like that but instead of a random face it’ll be (FF) Fred. 

I need an angry fuck everybody vibes jokers card. 

I have it figured out, and no other opinions are allowed after this point.

Red Fred. Red States. “Red State?”. Michael Parks. Michael Parks played a version of the leader of the Westboro Bapstist ringleader, in “Red State.”

….

What was his name?….. 

FRED PHELPS.

And the first photo I looked up was in a RED shirt!!!!!

Think about it.

Hatred. Bigotry. Madness. Followers of evil.

Maybe the theme is killing off the blind followers of hatred.

chops said
I just want the whole album produced by Mike E Clark. 

Only 2 albums of the 7 albums released as part of the first 6 jokers cards were not produced by mec. (COC was about 2/3 mec produced so I consider it done by Clark). We’ve already had our 2 albums of the second deck not produced by Clark(lost and found). I hope he does the remaining albums.   

Interesting thought. Mike seems to be the guy that never wants to really “share” an album with any other producers. I think TFTLP was produced with Mike P without Mike C knowing at first, right? 

I liked the BPB! production, mostly. But I never listen to that album. I wasn’t digging the vibe overall. Sort of like AJB. I dunno.

I feel that a MEC album would rock, especially where the clowns are at these days, with their unique batch of troubles. A lot has been experienced in a very short amount of time.

Still waiting for that Shaggy 2 Dope book.

Chevy2Dope said
Yeah I’d love it if MEC was the only producer. But if he wasn’t available to do the whole thing then I would still enjoy it if in addition to MEC they worked with Mike P, Seven, and maybe even Kuma. All have produced some cool shit for ICP. Honestly, if Seven came through with more shit like “Phantom” and that sound was the template for the album, I’d bust a nut. 

Also, I’m not too sure, who did the beats for “Under The Big Top” and “Out There”? Both of those songs I feel are super underappreciated and have unique and cool beats. Shaggy and ESPECIALLY Bushwick Bill come in WACK on Out There, but J’s verse and chorus and the beat are gold.   

I can’t remember, and I can’t even find my old CD case.

I was just realizing that it was pretty cool of Psychopathic to put old was Mr. Bones tracks on the first PFOS. They didn’t have to do that, they could be put other old or remixed clown boy shit on there. Something to think about.

Rosco said

Jake & Jack Jeckel had normal people names.
Technically wasn’t the name of the card though I guess.  

yeah I see what you mean but it worked in the context of The Amazing Jeckel Brothers. If it was just Yellow Jake or something, that’d be ridiculous.