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February 15, 2014
Pigg said
J is the Juggalo Trump.
Maybe. I’m not sure it is a perfect fit, but maybe some properties do.
And KuKluxKlown is the juggalo Qanon.
I disagree. I think a lot of people have QAnon wrong, especially if the information they have is from any media outlet. The media absolutely does not understand the chan culture. What do you think QAnon is?
6:55 am
September 18, 2012
Psyral Infection said
Pigg said
J is the Juggalo Trump.Maybe. I’m not sure it is a perfect fit, but maybe some properties do.
And KuKluxKlown is the juggalo Qanon.
I disagree. I think a lot of people have QAnon wrong, especially if the information they have is from any media outlet. The media absolutely does not understand the chan culture. What do you think QAnon is?
The guy that spread bigoted propaganda conspiracy theories like Pizza Gate derived from a twitter account that also spread white supremacist ideologies claiming that Trump was going to save us from the scary bad Democrat pedophile ring ignoring the fact that Trump is much more closely tied to a real pedophile ring in which he’s been accused of raping a 13 year old?
Oh no, that’s just the bad bad media that uses things like research and cited facts to back up their claims trying to slander the faith based (more like spite based) truth.
8:09 am
December 18, 2012
It’s just music. Let it go. Nobody physically attacked any of you. Psychopathic records has always been a shady business, they used to brag about all the shady and illegal shit they’d do. Twiztid and everybody else knew this before signing up but I’m sure after years of dealing with it the shit gets old. Psychopathic is irrelevant these days. It’s just icp. That’s it. They do more events than music releases. They’ve dug a hole and are desperately trying to find a way out. As long as they are still releasing icp projects and doing the gathering each year they’ll be fine. Twiztid/blaze should own 3/5 of the publishing for Dark Lotus so if anybody can perform the tracks it’s the majority holders. Violent j has been a creative force behind the hatchet but he is also petty and reacts with emotion before thinking. He has done damaging shit to his own artists careers out of jealousy. Dark lotus will re-emerge in 2021. The 20 year anniversary of tales from the lotus pod. Maybe
8:50 am
September 18, 2012
chops said
Twiztid/blaze should own 3/5 of the publishing for Dark Lotus so if anybody can perform the tracks it’s the majority holders.
What you’re missing in this is we don’t know who created the vision, who controlled the artistic direction, who wrote who’s lyrics, and the most overlooked entity of creating the art, the producer. Honestly, I believe producers should hold publishing rights for music they have produced because majority of the music, especially aesthetically driven theatrical music like this, wouldn’t be shit with out the creative and artistic vision of the one that actually constructs the song that gets unfairly applied to the person that just raps.
11:16 am
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February 15, 2014
King Lucem Ferre said
The guy that spread bigoted propaganda conspiracy theories like Pizza Gate derived from a twitter account that also spread white supremacist ideologies claiming that Trump was going to save us from the scary bad Democrat pedophile ring ignoring the fact that Trump is much more closely tied to a real pedophile ring in which he’s been accused of raping a 13 year old?
Oh no, that’s just the bad bad media that uses things like research and cited facts to back up their claims trying to slander the faith based (more like spite based) truth.
@lucem-ferre QAnon has not mentioned any Pizza Gate stuff and NEVER mentions race except that the movement has no race. People who pretend to QAnon have. The easy way to tell is by the tripcode. Real anons in the movement know how to determine fake vs real trip codes. The media does not.
CM (codemonkey) has shown the IP’s that match IP lease blocks from various media organizations. Those posters post vile white supremacist rhetoric and other wild conspiracy things (the latest one was that JFK jr was alive and Trump would reveal him as his VP choice for 2020 – QAnon never said that, QAnon actually said that JFK Jr was dead when asked directly) and then a day or so later, the news writes a story quoting their own posts as the evidence of what the QAnon movement “really” is.
If you can, please find a QAnon post that shows what you say he says (Provide the full post – with hash ID, tripcode, date/time, post ID). I can show you how to determine what is real and what is not. A quick way to determine what is real without looking at the tripcode, is the content. QAnon never gives direct info. The posts are mostly Socratic. Some are coded. But never mentions race or religion or anything of the things the media attributed to Q.
If you think QAnon was Micro from twitter, like many in the media claim, he has never been able to post as Q using the correct code to produce the trip. He tried many times and even fooled the media with putting the trip in the name field (which shows as bold text instead of the normal trip styling) but never obtained the code Q used to produce the proper trip.
11:31 am
March 30, 2013
King Lucem Ferre said
chops said
Twiztid/blaze should own 3/5 of the publishing for Dark Lotus so if anybody can perform the tracks it’s the majority holders.What you’re missing in this is we don’t know who created the vision, who controlled the artistic direction, who wrote who’s lyrics, and the most overlooked entity of creating the art, the producer. Honestly, I believe producers should hold publishing rights for music they have produced because majority of the music, especially aesthetically driven theatrical music like this, wouldn’t be shit with out the creative and artistic vision of the one that actually constructs the song that gets unfairly applied to the person that just raps.
Well, if you ask Marz, he will say that he is the major influence and creative force of Dark Lotus.
Monoxide would probably say that he was, or that he and Blaze and Madrox were.
Violent J would probably say that he was, or that he and Shaggy were.
Shaggy and ABK would probably say… and this is ALLL just creative speculation fun, but they would probably be like “nah man, J was the one behind all the shit. Why would you guess otherwise? He started the theme and we all added our own shit, but if course he started it all. Know what I’m sayin?”
Humbleness runs more rampant with those two dudes, I think. They seem like they’re just trying to have a good time and keep things real.
“I’m workin on my brand new shit
A brand new group
With my homies Twiztid
It’s called Dark Lotus
And should I play some for y’all?
…
Hell naw”
11:32 am
September 18, 2012
Psyral Infection said
King Lucem Ferre said
The guy that spread bigoted propaganda conspiracy theories like Pizza Gate derived from a twitter account that also spread white supremacist ideologies claiming that Trump was going to save us from the scary bad Democrat pedophile ring ignoring the fact that Trump is much more closely tied to a real pedophile ring in which he’s been accused of raping a 13 year old?
Oh no, that’s just the bad bad media that uses things like research and cited facts to back up their claims trying to slander the faith based (more like spite based) truth.
@lucem-ferre QAnon has not mentioned any Pizza Gate stuff and NEVER mentions race except that the movement has no race. People who pretend to QAnon have. The easy way to tell is by the tripcode. Real anons in the movement know how to determine fake vs real trip codes. The media does not.
I didn’t say QAnon is racist. Q is a propaganda account, maybe even satire, at this point you never know. Seems like 4Chan tends to have plenty of both to the point where the people being offensive just to be offensive no longer know anymore.
I said that Q took the conspiracy theory from a racist. That’s where Pizza Gate comes from. Pizza Gate came from a twitter account claiming to have insider information that also spread white supremacist propaganda. Cause most fascist, racist, white supremacist people support Trump.
Q just coincidentally took the same conspiracy theory with the same claim of having insider information, purely coincidental, to spread pro Trump propaganda. There’s only one difference. I don’t think it’s that big of a jump in logic to assume Q is white supremacist for literally imitating the same exact slanderous scam as an actual white supremacist though.
I didn’t get that from ‘mainstream media’. That’s just a fear mongering tactic fascists say when confronted with facts that contradict their unsupported beliefs. “Anything that isn’t us is wrong!”
11:38 am
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February 15, 2014
King Lucem Ferre said
Psyral Infection said
King Lucem Ferre said
The guy that spread bigoted propaganda conspiracy theories like Pizza Gate derived from a twitter account that also spread white supremacist ideologies claiming that Trump was going to save us from the scary bad Democrat pedophile ring ignoring the fact that Trump is much more closely tied to a real pedophile ring in which he’s been accused of raping a 13 year old?
Oh no, that’s just the bad bad media that uses things like research and cited facts to back up their claims trying to slander the faith based (more like spite based) truth.@lucem-ferre QAnon has not mentioned any Pizza Gate stuff and NEVER mentions race except that the movement has no race. People who pretend to QAnon have. The easy way to tell is by the tripcode. Real anons in the movement know how to determine fake vs real trip codes. The media does not.
I didn’t say QAnon is racist. Q is a propaganda account, maybe even satire, at this point you never know. Seems like 4Chan tends to have plenty of both to the point where the people being offensive just to be offensive no longer know anymore.
I said that Q took the conspiracy theory from a racist. That’s where Pizza Gate comes from. Pizza Gate came from a twitter account claiming to have insider information that also spread white supremacist propaganda. Cause most fascist, racist, white supremacist people support Trump.
Q just coincidentally took the same conspiracy theory with the same claim of having insider information, purely coincidental, to spread pro Trump propaganda. There’s only one difference. I don’t think it’s that big of a jump in logic to assume Q is white supremacist for literally imitating the same exact slanderous scam as an actual white supremacist though.
I didn’t get that from ‘mainstream media’. That’s just a fear mongering tactic fascists say when confronted with facts that contradict their unsupported beliefs. “Anything that isn’t us is wrong!”
Where did Q post anything about pizza gate?
11:45 am
September 18, 2012
Old Mr Dangerous said
Shaggy and ABK would probably say… and this is ALLL just creative speculation fun, but they would probably be like “nah man, J was the one behind all the shit. Why would you guess otherwise? He started the theme and we all added our own shit, but if course he started it all. Know what I’m sayin?”
Humbleness runs more rampant with those two dudes, I think. They seem like they’re just trying to have a good time and keep things real.
It’s like you guys literally ignore the fact that both members of Twiztid have routinely admit that they learned everything and got their careers from ICP amidst all of their problems with ICP. It’s like they can’t ever take any credit for anything that they have done with out somebody who 1) wasn’t there and 2) hasn’t had experience as an artist getting upset and calling them narcissists. Like your mind was already made up before they could ever open their mouths to hate them so what ever comes is automatically construed into the worst interpretations imaginable.
Like Fox News reporting anything on Obama.
That’s my creative speculation. I thought it was fun.
12:07 pm
September 18, 2012
Psyral Infection said
Where did Q post anything about pizza gate?
Are you legitimately trying to pretend that the idea of a Democrat run Satanic pedophile ring did not derive from Pizza Gate? It’s just completely coincidental that Q’s conspiracy theory is almost exactly the same?
That Q, who thinks Trump is going to save us from the deep state, isn’t some kind of fascist propaganda account trying to scare people into Trumpism exactly like Pizza Gate did? Ever question why Q never seems to acknowledge that Trump and his administration are part of the deep state? Why Q never acknowledges Trump’s dangerously close relation to a legitimate child trafficking pedophile?
The guy who’s accused of raping a 13 year old in said pedophile’s house?
The guy known for throwing parties between him, said pedophile and tons of women?
The guy that said, “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.” about said pedophile?
The guy that makes inappropriate comments about his own daughter?
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^^^^ This guy is our savior from a huge demonic pedophile conspiracy ran by the Democrats secretly conspiring against us all?
Man, this just sounds like some Nazi-esque fascist propaganda to me.
12:42 pm
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February 15, 2014
King Lucem Ferre said
Are you legitimately trying to pretend that the idea of a Democrat run Satanic pedophile ring did not derive from Pizza Gate? It’s just completely coincidental that Q’s conspiracy theory is almost exactly the same?
That Q, who thinks Trump is going to save us from the deep state, isn’t some kind of fascist propaganda account trying to scare people into Trumpism exactly like Pizza Gate did? Ever question why Q never seems to acknowledge that Trump and his administration are part of the deep state? Why Q never acknowledges Trump’s dangerously close relation to a legitimate child trafficking pedophile?
The guy who’s accused of raping a 13 year old in said pedophile’s house?
The guy known for throwing parties between him, said pedophile and tons of women?
The guy that said, “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.” about said pedophile?
The guy that makes inappropriate comments about his own daughter?
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^^^^ This guy is our savior from a huge demonic pedophile conspiracy ran by the Democrats secretly conspiring against us all?
Man, this just sounds like some Nazi-esque fascist propaganda to me.
Q has NOT mentioned a Democrat run Satanic pedophile ring. Show me the post where he mentioned that. Again that was never Q.
“Trump’s dangerously close relation to a legitimate child trafficking pedophile” … Where did you get that? Even Steele tried to push that for the dossier but said he failed to find any connection other than a casual social connection. Steele said he dropped that line of inquiry when he found overwhelming connections with the Clintons but not with Trump. Trump said that quote back in 2002, way before Trump banned Epstein for LIFE from his establishment for being with an underage girl. This was at an event where Epistein was with a younger girl (but of legal age) and was taken by the people present as a joke. Trump is also noted in the FBI report as the only high profile figure to help them with all the information he had on Epstein back before Trump even considered running for president.
The accusation that you talk about never panned out. The case was dropped – According to the news it was because of death threats. According to the court documents, it was because of lack of any evidence and no one at the party could even place Trump with the girl. Accusations don’t mean anything. I accused Obama of raping me 30 times when I was 10 years old but it never panned out either.
1:43 pm
September 18, 2012
Psyral Infection said
Q has NOT mentioned a Democrat run Satanic pedophile ring. Show me the post where he mentioned that. Again that was never Q.
“Trump’s dangerously close relation to a legitimate child trafficking pedophile” … Where did you get that? Even Steele tried to push that for the dossier but said he failed to find any connection other than a casual social connection. Steele said he dropped that line of inquiry when he found overwhelming connections with the Clintons but not with Trump. Trump said that quote back in 2002, way before Trump banned Epstein for LIFE from his establishment for being with an underage girl. This was at an event where Epistein was with a younger girl (but of legal age) and was taken by the people present as a joke. Trump is also noted in the FBI report as the only high profile figure to help them with all the information he had on Epstein back before Trump even considered running for president.
The accusation that you talk about never panned out. The case was dropped – According to the news it was because of death threats. According to the court documents, it was because of lack of any evidence and no one at the party could even place Trump with the girl. Accusations don’t mean anything. I accused Obama of raping me 30 times when I was 10 years old but it never panned out either.
That’s actually completely false with all the public information that we have. Trump has had a much closer verifiable relationship than what you’re saying. Nothing has come out about the Clintons connection to the pedophile ring like with Trump. From what I understand, Epstein was kicked out after he was caught sexually assaulting an under age girl.
You’re being very disingenuous with that information. The case was initially dropped because she filed it as a civil rights case but couldn’t provide information on how her civil rights were violated when filing for the case. So she refiled it as, I believe, a sexual assault and they were set to start the first court date but she pulled out of her first public questioning claiming it was death threats than shortly after she dropped the case over, what she says, to be death threats.
1:48 pm
September 18, 2012
According to RadarOnline’s initial reporting, the lawsuit filed in California on 26 April 2016 was dismissed over technical filing errors
She was scheduled to appear at a press conference on 2 November 2016 but didn’t show up, claiming that threats to her life kept her away. She reportedly dropped the lawsuit again on 4 November 2016 for the same reason.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/
1:51 pm
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February 15, 2014
King Lucem Ferre said
That’s actually completely false with all the public information that we have. Trump has had a much closer verifiable relationship than what you’re saying. Nothing has come out about the Clintons connection to the pedophile ring like with Trump. From what I understand, Epstein was kicked out after he was caught sexually assaulting an under age girl.
You’re being very disingenuous with that information. The case was initially dropped because she filed it as a civil rights case but couldn’t provide information on how her civil rights were violated when filing for the case. So she refiled it as, I believe, a sexual assault and they were set to start the first court date but she pulled out of her first public questioning claiming it was death threats than shortly after she dropped the case over, what she says, to be death threats.
Then show me the articles that show the connection between Trump and a pedophile ring. I would have to investigate that. No official documents show anything I can find that link Trump to any ring. The only references I could find are from the FBI that show various investigators trying to find connections but were unable to find any.
I am not being disingenuous. I am talking about the court documents during discovery. No one could place Trump with her.
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