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New Twiztid interview. Criticisms.
March 9, 2019
8:16 am
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Oh I agree mentalcase. It definitely can go both ways. Dumb as fuck all around. So much shit going on in life and mother fuckers are caught up in an almost decade old feud between grown ass men that has nothing to do with them.

Weak as fuck

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March 9, 2019
8:31 am
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Slumerican502 said
Oh I agree mentalcase. It definitely can go both ways. Dumb as fuck all around. So much shit going on in life and mother fuckers are caught up in an almost decade old feud between grown ass men that has nothing to do with them.

Weak as fuck  

overall I actually like Magic Spells ironically I just don't care for the "50 shades of hate me" shit at the beginning lol hoping their new album is dope...people take me for a Twiztid hater and while I currently prefer ICP's latest stuff to what Twiztid's done the last few years I did buy their last album and will probably buy this one so it's really not that at all...I guess I just miss their funny, more creative stuff which seems to have dropped off since they left Psychopathic (and sort of while they were on the label too I guess as I don't remember Abominationz having anything like that)...Monoxide's only saying there were no disses from their side because he didn't mention anyone by name but clearly there's been subliminals from both sides (more from Twiztid I'd say)...anyone who isn't a moron can see that and put two and two together considering Twiztid really has nobody else they have a significant issue with except maybe D-Loc or whoever it was in KMK that they supposedly ripped off with some weed or vice versa lol 

March 9, 2019
9:12 am
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it makes me sick to hear them Lie so much...

saying they didn't diss candy ass m&m's, when they dissed him on shit talkaz, and then they also dissed mainstream rap acts on songs like "bury me alive" and "shock and awe"... was m&m's not A Mainstream back street bitch boy TRL fuck tard? you know goddamn well the whole psychopathic crew were dissing feminem and the mainstream back then...

twiztid are fucking tweakers if they can't remember their own history... GODDAMN!!! WHY TWIZTID WHY? WHY YOU GOTTA LIE? WHY YOU GOTTA LIE? why you gotta lie?!?! you know you wrong CUZZ!

makes me Laugh my ass off hearing D-Loc you ripped off with some stress weed! haha ya'll are some busters! ya'll got ganked! ahahhahaha

come on twiztid! get it together! get your heads out of your asses! quit the mainstream ass kissing! just stop it! you're not evolving as artists, you're devolving. FREEK SHOW was your best album!!! Abominationz is your worst album! Life's Questions of Eviloltion is way better than weak ass Abominationz, Darkness is a million times better than Abominationz.... Abominationz is your weakest album fools!

I don't even want to hate you anymore, take my advice, I'm trying to Help you! Mostasteless and Freek show are your best albums... green book is good too... Mirror Mirror was awesome... you're acting like fucking emo bitches now though for real...

and your homeboy Eminem will be sucking dick for eternity... stop kissing his ass, his music is lame and will always be lame.

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March 9, 2019
12:46 pm
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Does angoan actually listen to these hour+ long podcasts? Like who decides to actively spend their free time listening to this shirt?

March 9, 2019
2:19 pm
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Pigg said
Does angoan actually listen to these hour+ long podcasts? Like who decides to actively spend their free time listening to this shirt?  

 

I do, assface.

March 9, 2019
2:28 pm
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mentalcaseproject said

it goes both ways...I left a comment on that Magic Spells track they dropped on youtube simply saying I didn't care for Monoxide's singing and almost instantly had one of their stans bringing up FFF when I didn't mention that at all lol basically you can't say you don't like a Twiztid song or a particular aspect of a Twiztid song without one of their dickriders chiming in with "well ICP sucks too!!!" lmao it's all childish really and I really hope this beef between camps is put to bed soon because so far all we've gotten is subliminals (mostly) from both sides and fans running each other down   

My new thing is to hate on everything and bring up Kanye West.

 

Like, SMH this single was trash Father Stretch My Hands Pt. 1 was waaayyyyy better than this.

March 9, 2019
2:56 pm
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T.O. said

vinyllover said
He seems to be not deliberately not clarifying. Is he afraid of his own past? One may call that lying by omission.  

Wasn't just omission though. At 25:28 Rude Jude asked "but you guys stayed out of it [the beef], at the end of the day?" and you can hear Jamie (not just Mono) mutter something like "abso-[lutely], yeah". Or am I hearing it wrong? Because otherwise that's just a straight up lie.  

YOU'RE TOTALLY RIGHT.

The radio interviewer said, "You guys" as in both of them stayed out of the beef. Mono said "yep" and Jamie said "Absolutely." JAMIE STRAIGHT UP FUCKING LIED. Both of them DID NOT stay out of the beef. One of them lent their voices to Slim Anus and Nuthin but a bitch thang.

I don't know what Jamie has to gain by lying. CPN has a point there. He gets a W on this one.

March 9, 2019
3:05 pm
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March 9, 2019
3:46 pm
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Twiztid has posted the interview on their youtube channel.

 

Some of the comments:

 

@WhoopX2 right before this they talked about Em flying back out after they told him they didn't want no part and then ICP said "off the label or help"
 
 
 
 
Sean Alsup
They said they didnt want nothing to do with the beef then ICP said off the label or join in. Just to clarify
 
 
Machinez w/Inn
They said they didn't want anything to do with the beef but J pushed them to do the track. Paul stayed completely out of it, but Jamie could do impressions so he did the eminem impression which I'm guessing j wrote the raps for. Makes sense given they have never dissed him on one of their own records.
 
 
Cobrah Klutch
He literally said “he flew him home” talking about Madrox “Do this or your off the label” listen again guy they never denied doing shit this is y the divide still exists almost 6 years later cuz mfkers r stupid n don’t know wtf they r talking about get over it if u hate twiztid don’t listen watch buy nothing from them it’s that simple man
 
 
 
I already know better than to do this but here we go. I have been saying this for quite sometime now and they finally said it here. The FBI assessment was to assess, you cant be assessed without being labeled. Colorado and Arizona labeled them gangs, so the FBI assessed them on a national level which was unfounded. The lawsuit was all for publicity and icp knew it was a false claim on a federal level. Why do u think it was shut down in court so quick? Listen to the court audio, cpn had it up at one point. Icp got national attention for this claim and for the first time in years. How many of you bought merch from them after all the attention was brought to this? They got me at first. Ladys and gentlemen your brand loyalty has been exploited by the very people you are protecting. Before the guy from Florida guy joins in. The juggalos have always been in a very misunderstood place and all the national attention to the matter actually did more damage to the brand. Even though they are not nationally recognized as a gang any state or local law enforcement agency can label them as such. Law isnt just law. Its local (city), county or parish, state and federal. The guys from twiztid knew this and separated from psychopathic because they DID NOT want to exploit their fan base (juggalos). Thank you and have a nice day.
March 9, 2019
4:03 pm
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Even if Jamie was forced by J back on the track, that doesn't excuse Jamie not owning up to his part. Let's assume Twiztid wanted to diss Eminem. Why wouldn't they both participate? Why wouldn't Paul write a verse? Does it make sense for only half a duo to hate the same guy? That would seem weird. Let's move outside the box for a second:

On the other hand, we all suspect that J gave them the ultimatum. Do the diss or off the label. However I have to wonder if part of the Non-Disclosure Agreement that Twiztid signed, stipulated that they could not PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGE AND CONFIRM THAT J forced them back to doing the track, or at least Jamie. So if legal consequences for breaking this NDA are hanging over Jamie's head, THAT is the only possible reason I can see him avoiding mentioning his presence on the tracks. Because if the interviewer kept pressing, Jamie would either have to

1.break the NDA and spill the beans that J said do this or off the label, and then J settled for Jamie only.
or

2. Say "next question" and look like a punk.

March 10, 2019
9:28 am
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From the faygoluvers youtube link that I put in the op.

Wow they turned on the ghetto accents for this interview 😂
 
 
Jello Onions
Jamie Madrox literally sounds ridiculous. He changes his cadence severely . It’s comical 😂 and honestly offensive 😂 it’s so cringeworthy
 
 
Bingo. I mean it couldn't be any more obvious with Madrox. Mono not so much. I did hear a little bit though. Still nowhere close to Rude Jude. I remember when that fool was on Jenny Jones. It doesn't even sound like the same person.
 

 

Now I would say that is true. Jump to 4 minutes 41 seconds to hear Jamie.

 
Now listen to Jamie.


 

Quite the difference! Now as to Rude Jude's old voice check him out.

March 10, 2019
8:01 pm
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March 10, 2019
8:35 pm
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KreyzMcKormik said
Talking about the Twiztid Interview on Shade 45 with Kreyz McKormik  

Sorry Kreyz, but you're wrong on this one. You can't take this one line from an inactive, out of date, 2011 list

"The Juggalos, a loosely organized hybrid gang are rapidly expanding into many U.S. communities."

and think the FBI was trying to tell local law enforcements across America that every Juggalo was either a gang member or to be suspected as one.

March 10, 2019
8:58 pm
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March 10, 2019
9:06 pm
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I will be happy to discuss the so called "gang list" and its implications with Kreyz. I would prefer of course he just bump one of those two old topics I linked up to though. The reason I brought back those old topics is because I want him to be aware that I have looked into this gang issue in depth as well and perhaps there could be a meeting of minds somewhere in the middle.

I wasn't lying when I said the things I did in the comments section of the article I gave a link to. The FBI did not say every Juggalo was a gang member or even a potential one. Somehow, CPN, Kreyz, Violent J, and everyone else forgot the FBI footnote near the end.

 

e Juggalos are traditionally fans of the musical group the Insane Clown Posse. Arizona, California, Pennsylvania, and Utah are the only US states that recognize Juggalos as a gang.

 

It allows room for Juggalos to be music fans the majority of the time. If cops didn't read the report correctly, or didn't understand it and started treating every Juggalo as a suspect or perhaps violated their constitutional rights without cause, that is the fault of the asshole cops, not the FBI.

CPN, Kreyz, Violent J and the rest also seem loathe to discuss the different types of gangs in the 2011 report. There are national, neighborhood, and hybrid gangs. MS-13 are a dangerous national gang. Some, repeat, SOME Juggalos constitute a disorganized, semi-independent hybrid gang. So to compare Juggalos and MS-13 is not what the FBI did and Violent J therefore mis-spoke at the 2012 gathering when he made it seem like that is what the FBI was doing.

March 10, 2019
9:13 pm
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vinyllover said
I will be happy to discuss the so called "gang list" and its implications with Kreyz. I would prefer of course he just bump one of those two old topics I linked up to though. The reason I brought back those old topics is because I want him to be aware that I have looked into this gang issue in depth as well and perhaps there could be a meeting of minds somewhere in the middle.
I wasn't lying when I said the things I did in the comments section of the article I gave a link to. The FBI did not say every Juggalo was a gang member or even a potential one. Somehow, CPN, Kreyz, Violent J, and everyone else forgot the FBI footnote near the end.

 

e Juggalos are traditionally fans of the musical group the Insane Clown Posse. Arizona, California, Pennsylvania, and Utah are the only US states that recognize Juggalos as a gang.

 

It allows room for Juggalos to be music fans the majority of the time. If cops didn't read the report correctly, or didn't understand it and started treating every Juggalo as a suspect or perhaps violated their constitutional rights without cause, that is the fault of the asshole cops, not the FBI.
CPN, Kreyz, Violent J and the rest also seem loathe to discuss the different types of gangs in the 2011 report. There are national, neighborhood, and hybrid gangs. MS-13 are a dangerous national gang. Some, repeat, SOME Juggalos constitute a disorganized, semi-independent hybrid gang. So to compare Juggalos and MS-13 is not what the FBI did and Violent J therefore mis-spoke at the 2012 gathering when he made it seem like that is what the FBI was doing.  

I’m down to talk about this shit. Hit me up on Facebook.

March 10, 2019
9:13 pm
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March 10, 2019
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KreyzMcKormik said

I’m down to talk about this shit. Hit me up on Facebook.  

Unfortunately I don't do facebook. I'm very paranoid about facebook. Nor do I youtube.  All that I would ask is that you check out those three links I gave above on post #34. The first two can be digested in one night. The last one is a bit of a long one and it would take a day or two due to the fact that I have a few youtube videos. However, they are time stamped, and ready for action.

March 10, 2019
9:23 pm
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vinyllover said

Unfortunately I don't do facebook. I'm very paranoid about facebook. Nor do I youtube.  All that I would ask is that you check out those three links I gave above on post #34. The first two can be digested in one night. The last one is a bit of a long one and it would take a day or two due to the fact that I have a few youtube videos. However, they are time stamped, and ready for action.  

lol

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