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August 12, 2012
For Detroit rap duo Twiztid, “A New Nightmare” marks a new beginning.
The group’s latest album, in stores today, marks its first release since leaving its longtime home at Psychopathic Records. The group was signed to the Insane Clown Posse’s label for 16 years and released nine albums through the Farmington Hills-based company, ending with last October’s “Abominationz.” Unhappy with the label’s handling on the album, Twiztid decided to break off and go its own route.
“(‘Abominationz’) was their chance to show us that we do mean something to them, that it does matter,” says Twiztid’s Monoxide, aka Paul Methric. Psychopathic failed to keep up their end of the bargain, says Methric, who says the label’s support of the project was “detrimental” to Twiztid’s growth. His partner, Jamie Madrox (born Jamie Spaniolo), agrees.
“Financially, people-wise, tolerance level, we were done,” Spaniolo says.
For fans, news of the split came as a shock. Twiztid has been synonymous with ICP and Psychopathic Records since it released its first album, “Mostasteless,” in 1997. ICP fans gravitated toward Twiztid, and the group — which shares ICP’s horror-rap style and theatrics (like their mentors, Methric and Spaniolo perform in white face paint) — built a grass-roots following among Juggalos.
Here’s where things get tricky, however. Methric and Spaniolo insist they have no beef with Psychopathic or ICP. They’re even playing next month’s Gathering of the Juggalos festival, ground zero for all things Insane Clown Posse.
“I don’t hate them, they don’t hate us. It just is what it is,” says Methric over lunch at Bastone in Royal Oak earlier this month. “(Fans) don’t believe us. They want a war. They want ‘A New Nightmare’ to come out and be all diss records, but they’re not going to get it.”
Still, Methric says he’s not sure how the Gathering performance will be received. “That‘s (ICP’s) event. Who knows what we’re gonna be walking into, but we’re not going to run from it,” he says. “We’ll face it like men.”
“A New Nightmare” was recorded in the springtime at the Disc in Eastpointe, where Twiztid recorded its earliest material. The return “centered us,” Methric says, after years of recording at Psychopathic’s in-house studio.
But with the weight of leaving Psychopathic off their shoulders — a move they had been contemplating since the release of 2010’s “Heartbroken & Homicidal” — they were given a fresh perspective on writing and recording.
“We totally feel refreshed. We feel like a million bucks,” says Spaniolo.
Methric and Spaniolo have been friends since childhood, when they met at a Boys & Girls Club in Detroit. They began rapping in the group House of Krazees in the early ’90s and later broke off to form Twiztid.
Without radio or video play, Twiztid has steadily built a strong following. In 2009, its album “W.I.C.K.E.D.” hit No. 11 on Billboard’s Top 200 albums chart; “Abominationz” opened at No. 18.
Methric says they are trying to capitalize on their momentum, and they needed to do things on their own in order to do it. Not just for themselves, but for their fans.
“It’s not about us. Me and (Spaniolo) can deal with it, we’ve been dealing with it for years,” Methric says. “It’s about Twiztid fulfilling our end of the bargain to these kids that have us tattooed on them, that have grown up with us since they were 12, and now they’re 27. It’s such a bigger picture than just us.”
And they insist they’re not switching up their style.
“We’re doing the same (thing) we did back then, it’s just a different address,” Methric says. “We’re paying the bills now, but nothing is going to change.”
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PunkRockJuggalo said
Just so it is out their i originally had it titled as mono not Twiztid since Mono does most of the speaking. But since it seems to have caused confusion, i changed the topic tittle in order to avoid any further confusion.
i wasnt confused until now... but i did a quick diagram and called a couple people to get their opinions, and i think i have it down now.
by the way, as your favorite english teacher, i thought id mention that a 'tittle' is the dot over an i. i think what you meant to say was 'topic tittie'.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
8:01 am
May 11, 2012
I understand Psychopathic fucked up the release of Abominationz by not ordering enough and perhaps not hyping it's release enough. All the die hard fans knew it was being released, but I don't think anyone else did...
What I don't understand is why they couldn't do what they are doing now on Psychopathic?
What was stopping them from creating film clips for themselves or coming up with different merch or doing collabs with people outside of the label etc?
ABK doesn't seem to have a problem doing things for himself even though he is on the label.
Maybe their expectations of Psychopathic were too high? I mean there is only around 30 employees and there is only so much they can do at the same time.
I think it's good that Twiztid has finally decided to step up and try to take their success to the next level, but I don't understand why they couldn't have done this on Psychopathic.
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August 12, 2012
scruffy said
PunkRockJuggalo said
Just so it is out their i originally had it titled as mono not Twiztid since Mono does most of the speaking. But since it seems to have caused confusion, i changed the topic tittle in order to avoid any further confusion.i wasnt confused until now... but i did a quick diagram and called a couple people to get their opinions, and i think i have it down now.
by the way, as your favorite english teacher, i thought id mention that a 'tittle' is the dot over an i. i think what you meant to say was 'topic tittie'.
Thanks for point that out. Here is another reason why i should not write in multiple places at once
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August 15, 2012
I had a feeling it was because of the way psy handled abominationz. Last years gathering had MDP plastered on everything. Water bottles, banners, the book, the charm, and so on. What did Twiztid get as promotion for new album? a lil ass card in our goodie bag. and i dont care what people say abomz was a solid album
I remember saying that at the campsite. Shit was a little dirty. I love Twiztid, top 5 for me. I really hope they can pull it off on their own. I really hope juggalos dont give them the Bubba Sparx treatment.
I will admit that J is smart as hell when it comes to making album sales and money. He just focused it only on himself....and that cold187um garbage.
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That was an odd move. As many of you surely know, CDs are always released on Tuesdays. This is industry standard. To change the date from a Tuesday to a Monday was just plain reckless. In addition I know they didn't ship as many copies to retail outlets as they have before, because none of the stores in my area had this CD that week... and for a PSY release that was unheard of.
Not to mention didn't The Only Solution drop the same day? Bonehead move there, that had to affect the sales of Twiztids album, and that had 2 versions as it was. Of course it's easy to Monday morning quarterback mistakes like these.
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9:45 am
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August 12, 2012
Guest said
Not to mention didn't The Only Solution drop the same day? Bonehead move there, that had to affect the sales of Twiztids album, and that had 2 versions as it was. Of course it's easy to Monday morning quarterback mistakes like these.
Yes both AbominationZ and The Only Solution drop on the 22nd. I can not really speak on the shipping aspect of it because i got my copy of AbominationZ and The Only Solution on time like i always do. So i was not affected by the lack of ordering enough CD's
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May 22, 2012
i cant see how it wouldve hurt twiztids sales. any fan of psychopathic that chose 187 over abominationz probably wasnt all that likely to buy it anyway.
i assumed the ploy was more about giving 187 a lil boost.
i still havent bought either album, but i intend to get both, eventually.
awfully paranoid, arent you?
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