hippiekush said
That's your opinion you ain't got to like it but jumping on here complaining about it makes you look jealous or something and not everyone has to think like you  

I'm not jealous of Scruffy! Fuck you! I'm in every way better than him! What do I have to be jealous of!?

King Lucem Ferre said

I'm not jealous of Scruffy! Fuck you! I'm in every way better than him! What do I have to be jealous of!?  

Wasn't talking to you I would of made it direct if it was to you 

scruffy said

the vast majority of names are dumb.  names for acts, and especially names for record labels.  

'psychopathic records' is actually such a dope name for a label, i was surprised that it wasnt already bein used by someone else.  

'insane clown posse' isnt exactly a dope name for an act, although its an on-the-nose description.  when i got around to hearing a full album from em, i thought, 'yeah, thats what a band called insane clown posse should sound like...'  

'twiztid' is a dope name for an act.  hell on the less literate fans, but xin loi, charlie.  

'anybodykilla' was a terrible choice.  i honestly thought this was an in-joke for like a year.  

okay.  'hoodoo' is a name that gets hated on...  but to me, its actually extra dope.  i been gassin on about how voodoo is pronounced hoodoo since i was a kid.  also, the difference between zombies and undead.  at this point, ive totally lost the second battle, but big hoodoo has helped with the first.  [addendum:  ive also been using it as a verb, ie 'that guy got hoodooed', ever since i saw serpent and the rainbow*]  anyway, dope name for an act.  

'blahzay roze' is, honestly, a dope name for an act.  probably not so much a juggalo act, since it seems like not many really got it.  but if it was 'blasé rose' and all college-rocky, i bet it would go over with that crowd.  

'blaze ya dead homie'...  not a great name.  i always thought just 'dead homie' by itself woulda been fine.  everybody was all blazin at the time.  blazes everywhere.  

'axe murder boyz' - ahhahhahahhahahhhhahhah hahah hahhhh!  fuck no.  

uh, who else.  'gorilla voltage' is actually not bad.  got that rolled-dice-to-get kinda quality to it, but its memorable enough.  'damn dirty apes' is not that bad, either... for like, the local garage/cover band.  

  

oh, and 'magic ninja records'.  well, the fuck else were they gonna call it?  like i pointed out when they announced it, juggalos had been callin out for it by name already.  for years.  whuuut.  

  

ima stop draggin this post out.  but im havin fun, over-analyzing all these names, right now.  plus im buzzed, so ill probably come back to it when boredom sets in.  

* 'hoodooed' was in the spellcheck dictionary, so i guess it actually was a verb all along.  anyway.    

You forgot lex the hex master and raps on contact lol

King Lucem Ferre said

Except that Twiztid didn't steal their style from ICP. ICP stole everything about their style from Esham. Twiztid is doing the same shit they were doing before ICP. Because they stole it from Esham too. Just like most of Detroit. You guys act like Twiztid are talent-less fucks that sat back on their ass while ICP did everything for them. Give them their credit, like damn. They put in work and earned their spot. Because if they didn't they would be on their ass working a day job regardless of if they got help from ICP or not. So they deserve to be a bit cocky. But they don't act nearly as cocky as the two fucks that try to tell every rapper out there with any kind of juggalo support that they owe their careers to them. Maybe ICP needs to get that Kendrick Lamar brand of humble served to them for thinking they own Twiztid. Forgetting that their situation was mutually beneficial. But nooooo. Let's not acknowledge that ICP made bank off of Twiztid's talent OR all the shit Twiztid contributed to your stupid ass culture. Cause I guess the silly braids were all ICP and not Twiztid. And the Family chant. And the eye contacts. You're already giving Joe credit for a whole movie that the entire label was involved in.

I have never seen either of them say that personally. I've seen tons of interviews of the opposite and most of yall were still talking this bullshit back then. Not YOU because YOU were doing some other stupid shit or I don't know, probably living life. Even if they did, and we all know it's bullshit because Mono admitted in those before mentioned interviews that he was going to quit music and get a job if ICP didn't sign them, it should be understood. Because ICP didn't write their songs. ICP didn't play their shows. ICP didn't name their albums. ICP didn't put in their work for them. They just opened the doors that allowed them to put in the work. They earned their spot because if they didn't they wouldn't be here still.

 

And Blaze isn't consistently being harassed and bad mouthed like they are.  

I'll do this all day with you...

• J himself called HOK Esham rip offs in behind the paint (while they were still cool) we all know that's what they started as, but HOK was a joke, they were not a successful act by any means whatsoever until ICP put them on and exposed them to a national/worldwide fan base that could understand their craft and appreciate their art. 
• I have also said several times recently that while they never would be anything without ICP, their success was made through their hard work and talent. BUT that hard work and talent would never get them anywhere if it wasn't for ICP putting them on. 
• I do agree that the partnership between them was mutually beneficial but Twiztid certainly benefited more... and on that note they ushered in the gay ass "fam era" which I hate...
• Years before all this shit went down TWIZTID was on a rampage talking about how juggalo rappers are all a bunch of copycats and rip offs, there's even an interview from like 06-07 where they tell other artists "don't use the word Juggalo in your songs or say it on stage if you aren't on PSY" lmao
• And YES, they both have recently denied they owe ICP anything. Madrox was asked "remember when ICP gave you a career" his exact answer was "NO I clearly don't remember that but I DO remember how we helped them build this culture into something you all wanted to rep" which I already addressed, so to Jamie it seems ICP owes them not the other way around. Monoxide said in a very recent video blog when told by a fan "you'd be nothing without ICP" he said that was a bold statement and that even without ICP they would have signed to a major as ISI!!!! Gtfo!!! So fucking outalandish and unrealistic of statement. Based in no form of reality. 

The Twizzler Vs ICP thing has been done to death at this point. I think we all know where every one of us stand by now and no one is budging. But fuck it, why not do this again? ICP are up front about ESHAM and how they used his whole thing as a trampoline and have even tried on multiple occasions to make it up to ESHAM. Twiztid, on the other hand, claim that they're their own thing. Because I guess it doesn't matter that ICP gave them fanbase, name, studio lessons, tours, merchandising, industry connections, branding, and -more to the subject at hand- label name. Al of that's coincidence. They totally could have done all that anyway. I mean, shit, you ever heard of ISI? Well apparently that's just as recognizable as Twwwwiiiiizzzzztttiiiiiiiiiid. One of em admits it while the other calls you a "hater" and denies it. That's the difference and it's a rather significant one. 

The name Magic Ninja Entertainment: Good or Bad? seems like a decent topic to me. 

I think Scruffy pointed out that people have been literally chanting that name for years, which is true. BUT I wouldn't name my fuckin label "We'ze Goin Chicken Huntin Entertainment" just because that's a thing Juggalos know. Especially if you're tryin to go your own way. Nothing says "original and totally our own thing now" like a reference to a movie starring ICP from twenty years ago right?

Hearing that they were making their own label had me curious if nothing else. There was a tiny fraction of an optimistic outlook in my brain that was thinking Twiztid's label would be where the Underground "superstars" would go. It would be a collective for all of these acts that we all know in our little scene but as fucking soon as "Magic Ninja Entertainment" leaked all hope was gone. But along the same lines it's a good example of what Twiztid have become. Not quite as good as the original but good enough to get a passing buy and if you point that out we'll claim we're different enough from the original to be our own thing. Where hope once stood now lies nothing but a Dollar General knockoff version of Psychopathic Records. Which is sayin a lot because Psychopathic Records roster is not, nor has it ever been, that impressive. A handful (at best) of good acts and a slew of their friends that they pretend are talented. 

Twiztid would have been put on they knew a lot eminems people they'd have a different style and twiztid kinda helped build psychopathic because they brought blaze and ABK 

I know what he meant. I was just being snarky for the sake of phony intellectual posturing- but I legit adore that you guys cite sources and historical precedents.

Fucking Juggalos, amirite?