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November 5, 2013
5:03 pm
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Probably cuz icp has been doing it for awhile now and twiztid are just getting started..I love icp and twiztid and will continue to support them both.Fuck the haters.

November 5, 2013
5:05 pm
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I've just accepted I'm locked in for life. MCL llal

November 5, 2013
5:06 pm
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Let there be peace in the Juggalo world.tumblr_mvtbq8uCBO1r7kw7so1_r1_1280.jpgImage Enlarger

 

November 5, 2013
6:32 pm
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ICP's become too greedy for there to ever be peace again. But I'll be along for the ride. Even as this whole thing is driven off the cliff I'll be in the back of the van whoop whooping while complaining how ICP should have done this and that while Down With The Clown plays. And not the shitty remix.

November 5, 2013
10:23 pm
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A New Nightmare was a step in a different direction, Like they mentioned in the interview in Minnesota a few mos back. While were jamming to Abominationz, Theyre on a new sound, They've been doing this since the beginning of their careers on Psy, Why is it so different now, Whats with all the hate? Wasted was a horrible song, I hate that song, I don't like hearing songs about getting fucked up personally, I cant stand the guest artists on that track either, None of em. But the album is good w/o Wasted.  

November 6, 2013
9:46 am
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Carnivalkilla44 said
did you ever get backlash for the tarot cards from PSY chick?

For Psy's take on me as a fine artist and painter, see "A Family Underground." In the film, I basically give a little speech about how I don't want to get sued for copyright infringement for my paintings and original art, which is funny, given the fact that I'm on film (with a bad haircut). Since then, the clowns have been nothing but supportive of me as an artist, because (1) I will never do t-shirts (except when I design for Psy or other artists/entities directly) and (2) I will never do charms or bootleg merch. And anytime I make a move, I run it by them. I consider them my mentors and friends and keeping the line of communication open is frankly just good business. I also do not use any copyrighted images or photos. Everything I do is original, albeit inspired by the juggalo world 9 times out of 10. On top of that, the Dark Carnival Tarot and accompanying booklet is award-winning and highly recognized in the tarot and scholorly communities (outside the juggalo community). It brings a new insight into the juggalo world for outsiders and older folks--a MUCH NEEDED positive take, given the FBI business and profiling that has occured. The message of the tarot speaks for itself. Now, on a personal tip, lately I have found myself defending my work via social media. I have a few haters. I even have a juggalo stalker! (Which I suppose comes with the territory...She even writes Scottie D!) But anytime I become defensive of my work with tarot, it is only to preserve and protect THE MESSAGE of my work--there is no ego in this. And the message is love, spirituality, awareness of greater workings, gratitude, and appreciation for all the Creator's blessings--hence the name "Dark Carnival." So...that's my spiel. Lol. As many of you have noted, recently there have been a few online vendors who were shut down for using copyrighted photos and logos. Some have taken to social media with their complaints. A few have come to me about it directly, since we are all artists here. I have encouraged these vendors to work with Psy directly to establish boundaries and parameters on what they can or cannot do. I frankly feel it is absolutely bad business to run right to social media and complain without initiating a conversation and attempting to establish boundaries first. And to be frank, those who run right to the internet without initiating a business conversation deserve their slap on the wrist. There is gratitude, appreciation, and humility in the face of those who innovate and put you on, and then there is...the opposite. And I suppose this opens up a larger conversation about Twiztid, who gets on Twitter and says things like "Let's see how many people we can take with us!" (in reference to ICP) or who gets up on stage in GroupThink mentale screaming about how "THEY are fucking UP!" with the crowds screaming (also in reference to ICP) amid other insults and rally cries. At the end of the day, there's nothing wrong with their solo endeavor. I applaud it. However, it's not WHAT you do, but HOW you do it. The ego. The insults. The pain of forgetting. This is bad business and bad friendship. At the end of the day, whenever you walk away from a business undertaking or a friendship or a partnership as artists or ANYTHING...even at the end of one's own life...the only words on our lips should be "Thank you." Gratitude. That's how I live MY life. And Twiztid's music has suffered immensely as a result of this karma. A New Nightmare is really poorly executed, all external issues aside. We gotta get back to the music. All of us. That's what's most important. Less ego and more artistry.

piggofdoom said

I don't really have a problem with you not liking the new music (different strokes for different folks, right?) and it would be stupid if I did, but I guess I am just wondering what kind of music DO you like? Who are you listening to right now?

Today's playlist for ya:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....qAu6bpAiOg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....rfM8jpYzyQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....a-2O31pdeI

...And for all the Miss Juggalette Queens in the house...

November 6, 2013
10:38 am
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You have to be kidding me. What are you babbling on about karma for Twiztid? ICP started dissing Twiztid first after they left. Then Twiztid came back and now they're rubbing it in that they don't need Psychopathic to be successful. Talk about karma. All Twiztid have heard is they're #2 and can't make it without Psychopathic, including hearing it within Psychopathic for years and years. So yeah, please forgive them for being hella geeked for thriving right now. All they're doing is going up. People said they wouldn't last more than 6 months on their own. They've earned it and they deserve it. It's Psychopathic who are the ones getting that bad karma right now and going down.

Nobody has a bigger ego than ICP. Don't even start that. They're killing their own label. Nothing says ego more than that. You're too blinded by your love for them to think rationally here.

November 6, 2013
10:55 am
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YayYay said
ICP started dissing Twiztid first after they left.

I've never seen anything negative from ICP's camp.

November 6, 2013
11:08 am
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I'll remind you. First shot after Twiztid left was in the hatchet herald saying how they're going to tour Canada, and it won't just be a couple lame dates or however they worded it. That was right after Twiztid did a couple dates in Canada. J says he writes the hatchet herald's sooooo....

Also in J's big interview after they left he said Twiztid probably left because they didn't want to be #2 anymore. It wasn't even about that. Twiztid helped build that label for 15 years and they were treated like garbage. Who the hell wants to hear they're #2 and that's the reason they won't get pushed and to just be happy with what they have? Twiztid right now are proving that whole theory wrong because they're out right now schooling it hard. They could have schooled it just as hard on Psychopathic had they been given the chance and J's ego and arrogance didn't hold them back like he does everyone. His loss. The way they promoted Abominationz was an insult itself. There was something else that was said but I forgot. It's already coming up on a year since they left. Wow. Congrats to Twiztid on proving everyone wrong.

November 6, 2013
11:22 am
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You're entitled to your opinion. I didn't see those alleged "jabs," so no need to "remind me." ;)

 

But IMO Twiztid ain't schooling it. I gave A New Nightmare a poor review here, of my honest opinion. That's what started this thread, remember? I really dislike the record. That's all I was saying.

 

Amazing how that quickly turned into "Fuck ICP" from y'all trolls. Lol. I'm done posting this this here thread tho! Have at it, boys! You have my thoughts on ANN...take it or leave it.

 

Really dislike that record. Sounds like garbage.

November 6, 2013
11:24 am
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Considering the ludicrous amount of promotion that went into MDP, I found it odd they didn't promote Abominationz at all really. Especially, or maybe because of, the fact that Abominationz blows MDP out of the water, twice. 

 

It's not about labels to me, but it's still hard to think of Psychopathic Records without Twiztid and Blaze. They all were Psychopathic back in the day, along with ABK. Just sucks that it had to happen.

November 6, 2013
11:39 am
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Well we can debate anything forever but at the end of the day the only thing that matters is the music they put out and them being able to pay their bills to keep it going. Right now Psychopathic is getting sued and can't pay their vendors and Twiztid seems to be doing just fine. I hope the competition that's happening ups both their games and ICP makes an epic comeback that makes me sit in the corner and cry for ever doubting them. Then Twiztid comes out with something that blows up my stereo literally. Then they can all pay their bills and everyone's happy. I'm not judging them for A New Nightmare or Forgotten Freshness 5 because they're just something to make a few extra bucks between their real albums. 

November 6, 2013
12:23 pm
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patjoyce said
It's not about labels to me, but it's still hard to think of Psychopathic Records without Twiztid and Blaze. They all were Psychopathic back in the day, along with ABK. Just sucks that it had to happen.

cosign.. its still weird for me when i really think about how twiztid & blaze are gone..

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November 6, 2013
1:57 pm
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YayYay said
You have to be kidding me. What are you babbling on about karma for Twiztid? ICP started dissing Twiztid first after they left. Then Twiztid came back and now they're rubbing it in that they don't need Psychopathic to be successful. Talk about karma. All Twiztid have heard is they're #2 and can't make it without Psychopathic, including hearing it within Psychopathic for years and years. So yeah, please forgive them for being hella geeked for thriving right now. All they're doing is going up. People said they wouldn't last more than 6 months on their own. They've earned it and they deserve it. It's Psychopathic who are the ones getting that bad karma right now and going down.

Nobody has a bigger ego than ICP. Don't even start that. They're killing their own label. Nothing says ego more than that. You're too blinded by your love for them to think rationally here.

I agree with you yayyay that wow a chick is bias agaiinst twiztid...smell the butthurt.lol...get off icp's nuts they need to breathe a little...lol..im down with twiztid and icp so I dont pick a side.

 

November 6, 2013
2:07 pm
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YayYay is dumb as fuck, but he is right about the jab in the hatchet herald. What was actually said is "we will do a full tour of Canada, not just one night in Toronto." Right after Twiztid did a one off show in Toronto (yet ICP never came thru on their word and Twiztid just recently went back and did a full tour) There is even a video if twiztid saying fuck them for taking shots at them.

November 6, 2013
2:17 pm
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Regardless Twiztid took it as a shot towards them. I also personally felt Shaggys statement in that recent radio interview was a diss when he called HOK "kids that were barely known". That's deff disrespectfull and downplays the shit outta them. Basically sayin they weren't shit before PSY (although I agree haha)

November 6, 2013
4:07 pm
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the_almighty_smack said

twiztard 

I can only begin to imagine how proud smackey is of himself for coming up with this literary gem. 

Your comments are like a television set in a honeymoon suite......unnecessary.

 

November 6, 2013
4:08 pm
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Oh yeah here's another one. The day after Twiztid left, ICP, Clay, and Psychopathic's twitters were bragging about having a BBQ and Clay was posting videos lol. I thought that was funny. Premature celebration though :(. Twiztid's only going up. Maybe they saw the future and were celebrating that.

And now for the video Faygoluvers was too afraid to post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDaclmBS23g

Hope they start doing a podcast soon. Best show on wfukoff.

November 6, 2013
4:11 pm
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YayYay said
You have to be kidding me. What are you babbling on about karma for Twiztid? ICP started dissing Twiztid first after they left. Then Twiztid came back and now they're rubbing it in that they don't need Psychopathic to be successful. Talk about karma. All Twiztid have heard is they're #2 and can't make it without Psychopathic, including hearing it within Psychopathic for years and years. So yeah, please forgive them for being hella geeked for thriving right now. All they're doing is going up. People said they wouldn't last more than 6 months on their own. They've earned it and they deserve it. It's Psychopathic who are the ones getting that bad karma right now and going down.

Nobody has a bigger ego than Violent J. Don't even start that. They're killing their own label. Nothing says ego more than that. You're too blinded by your love for them to think rationally here.

Fixed that for you. I feel like Shaggy really doesn't give a fuck. Ever noticed no one has ever spoke bad about shaggs after leaving?

November 6, 2013
4:21 pm
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You can tell how excited they are in that video. Jamie jumping up and down saying "Yes! Yes! Fucking yes!" and shit.

 

 

What I think is gonna happen:

 

 

Twiztid is going to keep picking up fans outside of juggalos, because they can rap. They will keep putting out bomb ass music and bomb as merch. They will keep getting on the horror/comic shows because that's what they love, and that's where they will get most of their new fans. We will get a Danny Trejo intro/cameo.

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