IIf Twiztid keeps it on sum underground shit ill be happy....Some of them collabs are kinda wierd tho.U hear Ritz on that Bad Side Remix.?His verse just sounded so outta place for me.

One thing I believe they are doing right is the twiztid-shop they took what they learned from hatchetgear in its hay day and improved on it. They definitely rival strange with the merch game.. now if we could get some half off sales like strange. I could actually afford some twiztid shop merch

sketchez said
in reality twiztid and mne won't get any bigger than they already are now  ..that blaze kfv song was nothing more than basic and forgettable

Psychopathic keeps it in house

Lost and Found had production by seven

"Abbadon" had jelly roll,crucifix,demi from the villebillies

"Slaughter" has jelly roll

"Mighty Death Pop" had hopsin,tech n9ne,the geto boys,fred durst,ice cube,swollen members,juicy j,lil wyte

Gang Rags Rerelease had no guest features except twiztid and roc

The Darkness had no guest features

"New nightmare" had swollen members,wrekonize and a horrible artists like dominic and caskey

"get twiztid" had features

But yeaaaaa, psychopthic just keeps it in house. Also people are really gassing this blaze track up unnecessarily, it is not a bad track, but the beat is some bootleg dr dre stuff, and just because blaze says "wicked" 2000 times it dosent really make it that "wicked" or "dark", it dosent take away that it just sounds like some drive by track,or a psychopathics from outer space throwaway 

ICP gave away "the phantom" free which has 5 quality ICP tracks, and samples of what the upcoming albums have to offer for free

Twiztid gave away.......nothing for free

Psychopathic released a sampler for young wicked's album 

Majik Ninja hasent even released a album of original material from a non twiztid group

Twiztid Released one EP(get twiztid)in 2014,and a dark lotus album, and one in 2015,next album projected for late 2016

ICP released a EP, a compilation(hallowicked 2 disc), a dark lotus album,and a killjoy club album in 2014, 2 full length group albums in 2015, with a full album of cuts coming before the end of the year

So the difference is lazyness and greed..........

Bostin said 

Correction.. Caskey had the best verse on "A New Nightmare".. The whole album.

We will have to agree to disagree, to ME caskey is a absolute fucking swaggot joke, white boy wanna be lil wayne sounding fuckboy, also the majority of the people on the "Wasted" songs like chris webby are fucking trash 

You get my point though, ROC has been riding with them since day 1 and they havent done anything for him, they havent signed a single artist,despite like 6 months ago saying they had 5 major artists that were going to "Change the game"

Also i wanted to weigh in on the boondox situation

Here is my Theory of what happened

At boondox's seminar he says "thats speculation,i cant talk about it right now" thats essentially a passive aggressive "Yes". So i am sure it got back to icp, so they say "Alright,fine if thats what he wants", so then they go and announce it. Then mono blows his lid and acts like a child while hes high. One of three scenarios is in play here. 1.Boondox is a fucking shiesty little shitheel who wanted to stir up the pot so he made that vague comment, which would cause ICP to say something,then cause twiztid to say "ok lets sign him".  2.Boondox was/is signed with MNE and mono got butthurt that icp ruined the suprise. 3.ICP wanted to fuck twiztid over and push a artist on them.

Now in all deference and respect to boondox and twiztid, In this situation i see 1 and 3 being the most plausible. I really dont see any good reason why ICP would go out and announce that unless it truly was the impression they were under. It just makes no sense because they would have to know that it would blow up in their faces if they just said "oh hes signing to them" but that he wasent. I honestly believe that either boondox or twiztid told them that their intentions were for boondox to join MNE. Another potential scenario is that Boondox and Twiztid who have been as thick as thieves for several months planned this to make ICP look stupid and further diminish their fanbase. I would like to think that theory hold no water, but i could be wrong 

To be fair to twiztid, the question wasn't "whose kids were they" it was more like "did you really leave because of J's kids" it could have been ANYBODYs kids, but people just assumed it was J and that was why he was telling him to shut up and to not make up shit. For all we know, it was who ever they had working the boards. People assume J because they want the beef to be with ICP but psychopathic is more than just joe and joey and they've said multiple times in the past that there were too many fuck ups with the management side of psychopathic which isn't under j's thumb.

As for boondox, people said he was being driven around the gathering by George, twiztid's manager and partner for MNE. 

Twiztid also said that we'd be hearing a name within a month, and the next fucking day ICP dropped the boondox shit. I actually thought it was a really smart way to make the announcement before the monoxide clip surfaced and it was straight up BS for them to assume J was trying to force them into signing boondox because they could just have come out and been on some "we think it's fucked up that they did that to their family"

But I also did some investigating and Boondox didn't promote either marvelous missing link album on his facebook but he promoted various twiztid projects and music videos.

He was on tour with them so maybe he was just more in tune with their shit at the moment. Who knows.

he was salty as fuck about psychopathic in the seminar. he didn't just say "I can't speak on that right now" or whatever, he also told a juggalo who asked when a music video would come out that "I guess they're too busy to make a music video with me." and When asked why he wasn't in rydas he said "ask them."

Plus i wonder how many people brought that shit up during the autograph tent, right in front of ICP. That shit would have pissed me off if I was them and juggalos kept coming in and asking him "is it true" and shit. You know at least a few did. And then for him to answer that way, it's no wonder icp announced it for them.

I would bet that the bottom line with all this is that there just isn't that much money to made if you're not ICP or Twiztid, and Boondox, Blaze, ABK, etc. have a hard time accepting that.  At first they thought PSY must be ripping them off so they went off of on their own, but then they found out that wasn't true so they came back.  Now Twiztid is in their ear telling those guys that the problem is that the PSY isn't promoting them enough.  Which there is some truth to, I don't get the sense that PSY does much for its artists, I noticed at one point ABK was on tour and the dates weren't even listed on the PSY website.  But, that's not really the problem these guys are having.  The problem is that artists like Boondox and Blaze just don't sell enough records, tickets, and merch to make a lot of money for themselves, they never will, and MNE isn't going to fix that.