I don't get. They do give them props all the time and they do tell people how if it weren't for ICP they'd be no where all the time yet people pull this whiny bullshit.

With this logic, ICP should be kissing Disney's ass, right? Cause wasn't it that their beef with Disney got them famous? I guess ICP are spoiled kids too.

and ICP wouldn't have the shit they have with out Disney or Jive or Def Jam. Point is, it's fucking business. They earned their way into Psychopathic just like ICP earned their way into Jive and Disney and etc. They paid their does and deserve their respect and they also deserve to have people not get involved in shit that is personal between them especially when you don't know the full story.

I mean, that's the fucking deal. A label sees talent that they think they can profit off of and they give it a chance.

So Twiztid doesn't owe shit. Even though they will always acknowledge the fact that ICP gave them that chance they shouldn't need to. They earned their place, they earned their keep, they paid their does, they don't owe a good god damned thing.

Plus, you can't sit there and tell me that ICP taking away the thunder for Boondox signing to MNE, if he was even supposed to sign to MNE, isn't some fucking shady bullshit. Like, yeah. It's retarded. How would you like it if everybody told you that you owe your old boss/bosses everything because you wouldn't be shit with out them? Grow up and just let shit go.

King Lucem Ferre said
and ICP wouldn't have the shit they have with out Disney or Jive or Def Jam. Point is, it's fucking business. They earned their way into Psychopathic just like ICP earned their way into Jive and Disney and etc. They paid their does and deserve their respect and they also deserve to have people not get involved in shit that is personal between them especially when you don't know the full story.

 

I mean, that's the fucking deal. A label sees talent that they think they can profit off of and they give it a chance.

 

So Twiztid doesn't owe shit. Even though they will always acknowledge the fact that ICP gave them that chance they shouldn't need to. They earned their place, they earned their keep, they paid their does, they don't owe a good god damned thing.

 

Plus, you can't sit there and tell me that ICP taking away the thunder for Boondox signing to MNE, if he was even supposed to sign to MNE, isn't some fucking shady bullshit. Like, yeah. It's retarded. How would you like it if everybody told you that you owe your old boss/bosses everything because you wouldn't be shit with out them? Grow up and just let shit go.

As far as ICP taking away their thunder, what do they expect when the steal Psychopathic's artists out from under em. Especially at the gathering of the JUGGALOS. Maybe Twiztid needs to find their own talent to sign, either that or not get all butt hurt when Psychopathic leaks it that one of their artists have left for MNE. If they didn't want that getting out then when Boondox was asked in his seminar he should have straight up denied it. By saying he couldn't speak on it opens the door for J to elaborate and/or speculate. So it all pretty much falls back on Boondox.

healtop said
I read most comments but havent seen this. But my opinion, Boondox, like me, if fed up with the fuck the south and fuck rebel flags and shit. We are both from GA and know how it is and that the flag aint racists and shit. Like I have said before, ICP should have left that shit alone on COC and not remind everyone how much they hate people in the south and stereotype us. I mean I hate most rednecks hicks to, but in a way I am kind of one lol, I live out in the woods and like to get drunk, shoot guns, and burn shit. & Im mad I havent found a legit reason to hate the north as a come back, I can only think of "fuck your super big ass awesome pizzas and phillysteak and cheese" haha.

ICP have said many times that there's plenty of cool people in the south and that they don't hate the whole south. But they do hate that flag and what it stands for, which is racism. You can feed me that non-racist BS all you want but here's a direct quote from the Vice President of the Confederacy, "Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition." Now, tell me they weren't fighting for racist cause. Even if he hadn't said that it's all about perception. Numorous hate groups such as the KKK have adopted that flag as a symbol for what they stand for. As for the whole heritage arguement, my ancestors are from Germany so does that make it ok for me to hang a nazi flag and claim heritage? I mean afterall, the swastika was orginally a Chinese symbol for peace... Fuck no it wouldn't be ok, nor should it be ok for people to hang the rebel flag. I mean, I'm all for people's individual rights, so if they wanna waive it they have that right but when they do they should expect the backlash and expect that people will probably assume they're racist. So tell me, is a piece of cloth worth having your juggalo family believing you to be a racist and wanting to kick your ass? Here's something to think about, I have an aunt who flies the rebel flag, she's not from the south, no part of my family on that side is from the south, but she's racist as fuck, is that what you want to be associated with?

Unless Monoxide put a gun to Boondox's head and forced him to sign the MNE contract. That'd be some bullshit. Or they black mailed him. Threatened to put that video where he got roofied and a horse face fucked him. Or perhaps they pimped Jamie's butthole out to him. Not nearly as shady as the previous theories, but still kinda strange.

J said what everyone at the Gathering was saying. Boondox even said he couldn't talk about it, which is clearly him saying that yeah, he's signing with MNE. Just because Mono and Madrox can't get their label together and be able to say who's joining, everyone else is just suppose to play stupid? Fuck that. The writing was on the wall, all J did was point it out and Mono got butthurt about it. 

Either way, fuck Twiztid. I'll continue trying to ignoring them and not listening to them, they'll continue to make music for their fans and they'll continue to buy their music. Everyone's happy. 

*edit* Except Monoxide apparently. He seems to be a touchy little fella

CellE2057 said
J said what everyone at the Gathering was saying. Boondox even said he couldn't talk about it, which is clearly him saying that yeah, he's signing with MNE. Just because Mono and Madrox can't get their label together and be able to say who's joining, everyone else is just suppose to play stupid? Fuck that. The writing was on the wall, all J did was point it out and Mono got butthurt about it. 

Either way, fuck Twiztid. I'll continue trying to ignoring them and not listening to them, they'll continue to make music for their fans and they'll continue to buy their music. Everyone's happy. 

*edit* Except Monoxide apparently. He seems to be a touchy little fella

It's hypocritical that people say he's the touchy one when you guys are the ones saying 'fuck him' over drama that hardly involves you. It's like, you're not in their shoes. You don't know what has or hasn't happened you don't know what weight they could be carrying on their shoulders so quit judging.

Plus, like I already pointed out, you don't know whether or not he was signing with MNE, maybe they were just talking about it. Maybe Boondox wanted to and they hadn't decided whether or not they wanted to. Whole point is, you don't know so quit jumping to take a side over speculations.

My whole issue with it is, not only do you not know the full history, but you are quick to judge on something with out putting yourself in their shoes. And that goes for both sides. It's the reason I hate shows like TMZ and all this celebritarian bullshit. It's people pointing fingers and judging other people for shit that we all do because we're human. It's pathetic self righteous bullshit.

Also, none of this has to do with your opinion on their music.

How the fuck are you going to tell me that Vanilla Ice isn't Greeze E.?! You're fucking lying to me!

CellE2057 said 

Hopefully the shit between their camp and ICP's camp stops so that we can get another Dark Lotus album. 

More like hopefully it keeps up so that we can get another Dark Lotus album, amiright?