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July 6, 2013
12:18 pm
King Lucem Ferre
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The self righteous hypocrisy attacks again. Dude calls me an over emotional cunt for defending my self against his scrutinous bullshit then leaves a huge ass book of self righteous hypocrisy and excuses.

1 no, I was talking about my ability to apply logic and common sense to figure shit out that I have never been taught. If my teacher taught me 7th grade math in 5th grade then it would have been education. It was not something I was educated on that I found out for myself right there on the spot.

2 I know the shoe part wasn't to be taken literal none the less intelligence is nothing but common sense.

3 regardless of whether you used what or where we both know what you meant by it and my response remains

4 you said that was the biggest reason you hated me then did the sarcastic apology to shit talk me for being too prideful you want to see a real apology for wrongful accusations refer to mine and Slum's political argument back when Slum first joined. Plus, like most things, the point I was making flew right over your head "I bet he doesn't rap over his own beats because he thinks he's too good for them"

5 Like I said, you can hate his music and hate him but denying he has any talent is just nonsense.

6 to be fair I don't really pay attention to Justin Bieber, so maybe he deserves the hate and I think Guest kind of cleared some of the stuff up for me, but do you really think he knew what he was getting into as a 16 year old? Maybe parents should teach their kids not to idolize celebreties and to think for themselves for once. Don't get me started on how self contradicting the cutting for Bieber movement is.

Guest, please elaborate on how I don't know how to apply simple logic. Keep in mind that when you percieved me to be stereotyping all stoners (which is MY fault, I should have made it clear that I don't think of all stoners that way) you stereotyped me as an ignorant southerner. Thus you pulled a Novocaine by making a self righteous assumption that also made you a hypocrit.

July 6, 2013
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I don't recall saying "southerner" I thought I said "rural" but I then again haven't given a second thought to that post since then. Was I wrong, are you really from the big city? You come off as kind of small town but that's nothing to be ashamed of. I was also curious if they tested for spelling and punctuation on that test you aced? I'm guessing not so much. #cutforbieber

July 6, 2013
12:50 pm
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'on todays point/counterpoint, we have novocaine and lucem ferre; they will be discussing acheivement gaps and, after the break, the impact of celebrity culture on our collective definiton of talent.'

[edit]  'with todays special guest, guest.'

 

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

July 6, 2013
1:02 pm
King Lucem Ferre
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Don't you hate it when you call somebody out on something and instead of actually explaining them self they do this little Ad Hominem dance around the accusations?

No, my grammar and spelling is shit, good thing most people these days realize that such superficial things do not define one's intelligence.

July 6, 2013
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I culod crae lses aobut sepnlilg and garmamr n a fagyoluevrs furom

July 6, 2013
1:20 pm
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people drew pictures to explain shit back in day fuck your over used words. have you ever read a real old shakespeare book maybe even a handwritten king james bible how about read our constitution shits all fucked up.

July 6, 2013
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I don't explain my own posts. I do however, forget you are probably just young and undereducated. If you really want to learn logic take a class in it, or read a book about it. I don't have the energy to hold your hand and explain everything for you. Also keep in mind spelling and grammar help you get your point across. You want to be clear to your reader not confuse them. If you have something worth saying why not present it in a readable format? I'm just trying to assist, sometimes your posts are almost a cry for help. Now hurry up with my damn croissants.

July 6, 2013
2:07 pm
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Guest said
I don't explain my own posts. I do however, forget you are probably just young and undereducated. If you really want to learn logic take a class in it, or read a book about it. I don't have the energy to hold your hand and explain everything for you. Also keep in mind spelling and grammar help you get your point across. You want to be clear to your reader not confuse them. If you have something worth saying why not present it in a readable format? I'm just trying to assist, sometimes your posts are almost a cry for help. Now hurry up with my damn croissants.

this is true when one is writing a novel and you want to have a bestseller 

July 6, 2013
2:19 pm
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My spelling and grammar has rarely affected people's ability to understand what I'm saying.

There you go again with ad hominem bullshit.

When I notice somebody doesn't understand what I am saying I do the logical thing and explain it to them.

July 6, 2013
2:31 pm
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Fuck it, there is no reason to argue with self righteous ad hominem using fucks.

July 6, 2013
3:43 pm
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Kanye West and Justin Beiber? They are not even in the same league. Kanye West WRITES HIS OWN MUSIC. Just like ICP and other artists. They make art, they create things. Beiber is a performer. He plays instruments, sings and dances. He doesn't write shit. He "contributes ideas" for lyrics. That's a fucking joke. He comes off like an entitled douchebag and for what? He can sing? So can a fucking bluejay. Honestly Lucem, I'm know your proud of your 7th grade standardized test results but maybe leave the analytical thinking to the people who are capable of applying simple logic.

 

 

 

i seriously am the last person who would give a shit about beiber..but a blujay...haha come on..i bet you cant sing for shit homie and its not as easy to do like you think its is...it requires talent and practise...i play guitar but i cant sing for shit..dude has talent..not the kind that interests me but he does..the kid can sing dance and play instruments but thats a joke compared to someone who can write their own music?? i dont see the logic there...

 

July 6, 2013
4:28 pm
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Violentdope, Guest doesn't understand basic logic.

July 6, 2013
4:46 pm
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I don't understand how someone can say beiber doesn't have talent. Dude can play MULTIPLE instruments. That's really impressive to me. While I don't like that some artist don't write their own lyrics, in the end it comes down to the performance. That's what makes them an artist.

George Strait has more number one singles than anyone in music history (60) and he has written only a small handful. You can't just give any schmuck some lyrics and make a hit.

 

And as much as I don't like Kanye, dude is talented too obviously

July 6, 2013
4:52 pm
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That's why you are one of my favorite people on here, Slum.

July 6, 2013
5:10 pm
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the_almighty_smack said

of course Justin Bieber has talent he's a Canadian

Ha ha. Makes sense, Chris Jericho is Canadian too and he's awesome.

July 7, 2013
8:26 pm
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if you did act like a precious little snowflake everytime i gave my opinion i wouldnt ahve to call you over emotional.

 

i dont THINK kayne has talent, adn no amount of you sitting on your little pedastal and judging me for thinking that way will change my opinion. do i think he has 'changed the game' in hip hop? yes? but in a day where mainstream hip hop is wildly mediocre that is not something that is amazing as you latch onto.

 

Just becaue you can press a few buttons on your laptop and call yourself an artist doesnt make you any more or less able to have an opinion about music production then teh rest of us.

 

and lastly, whene i apologise, if you want to see it as sarcasm thats cool. from you, id honestly expect it. but if apologise to you for amything i am being sincere and serious, im just terrible at apologising because well i personally find i am justified and entitled in everything i say.

 

Im sorry (serious ok) you take what i say as a personal affront, but if you didnt act like a precious little snowflake then well.... youd prolli smile more. 

July 7, 2013
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@Violentdope I play guitar. I have a pretty humble rig right now but I play for at least 2-3 hours a day. My fingers could join Fight Club. That's cool you play too. I was going to start a thread once to see if anyone here played guitar... to trade PSY tabs/chords and talk gear and shit. I'm no shredder that's for sure, certainly competent enough to get by.

I've also studied music theroy, flute, piano, and choir, but you nailed it, I can't sing for shit. Informally played drums, banjo, and I engineer analog recordings as a hobby. I spend more on cables a month than I spend on clothes and media in a year. I've fuckin lost it!

July 7, 2013
8:48 pm
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novocaine said

I'm a self righteous hypocrite, now time for me to bitch about iLL not liking Tech N9ne. 

God does not forgive those who speak against him, Novocaine.

July 7, 2013
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the_almighty_smack said
of course Justin Bieber has talent he's a Canadian

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July 7, 2013
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Soon as I get the chance I'm going to get a good keyboard because programming scores doesn't sound as good as live ones. To perfect, not human enough.

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