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Violence and Aggression
February 6, 2013
10:57 pm
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So I was having a discussion with this guy on violent media and it's correlation(or causation) with aggression/violent responses in humans. I just would like to know what everybody else thinks about this subject. I've been looking at studies done on the subject and the results seem to be inconclusive at best. And it's so hard to pick out who is cherry-picking on both sides of the issue to get down to the truth...Any thoughts?

February 6, 2013
10:59 pm
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Ever see the interview when a journalist asked Quintin Tarantino the same question?

February 6, 2013
11:00 pm
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I watch violent movies,listen to violent music,play violent videogames and I dont go out and kill people.

February 6, 2013
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I think it depends on the person, how they were brought up. Some people are aggressive by nature, some are passive by nature. Anyone can get violent if provoked enough, some just respond violently and others use it as a last resort. Some people will bitch about violent video games, they just did a study on that up here at MIT. After a whole whopping three days some genius was convinced violent video games should be banned, not quite enough to convince me. I think if you're a violent person you'll be violent regardless of what you watch or what you chose to play on your PS3. I see it like this, it's different for everybody. I had a girlfriend who loved the Anna Nicole Smith show that was on back in 2003 or whatever. I personally hate and despise that bitch. After watching that show I wanted to cut someone, and there's no violence at all in that show. It just annoyed me to the point of no return.

February 6, 2013
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START AT 4:05...

February 6, 2013
11:10 pm
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yeah I agree with that man. But this guy is arguing that even though it might not make us kill, it still affects our aggression. There are plenty of studies done with children on the subject, but they are very vague about the variables and controls. They just give you the results of the studies and expect you to take it as science....And maybe it is. My thing is they are all short term studies and i'm not convinced that aggression always leads to violence. It's a very tricky subject and i'd like to look at it from a realistic point of view. Because my whole life I have never bothered to look at the other side. I have always agreed with what you just said. MAYBE it can help a frayed mind snap that final thread of sanity...IDK man

February 6, 2013
11:14 pm
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patjoyce said:

I think it depends on the person, how they were brought up. Some people are aggressive by nature, some are passive by nature. Anyone can get violent if provoked enough, some just respond violently and others use it as a last resort. Some people will bitch about violent video games, they just did a study on that up here at MIT. After a whole whopping three days some genius was convinced violent video games should be banned, not quite enough to convince me. I think if you're a violent person you'll be violent regardless of what you watch or what you chose to play on your PS3. I see it like this, it's different for everybody. I had a girlfriend who loved the Anna Nicole Smith show that was on back in 2003 or whatever. I personally hate and despise that bitch. After watching that show I wanted to cut someone, and there's no violence at all in that show. It just annoyed me to the point of no return.

Your right dude.People who are brought up a certain way yes but also depends if ur a mentally stable human.Some people are just ill and dont need to have that if it is a trigger for them

February 6, 2013
11:16 pm
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Quinten SLAMS that mother fucker. He is right though I've heard him explain it all before

February 6, 2013
11:18 pm
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I agree it affects with agression cuz when I play sometimes my adrenalin is pumpin and im pissed cuz im gettin my ass handed to be by a 12 year old on black ops 2 but I dont go  beat my girlfriends ass or take it out on someone.All of that anger for me through music or movies or games is a great stress relief for me.

February 6, 2013
11:18 pm
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I love movies that Quentin Tarantino does but listening to him talk is like listening to someone drag nails across a chalkboard. Twice. Then a third time for good measure. I lost some respect for that dude up there, he was all butthurt. That was all very "I know you are but what am I?" I also have to wonder how much coke dude was on during that interview. Jesus Christ quentin, stop being such a bitch and answer the goddamn question.

February 6, 2013
11:19 pm
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Slumerican502 said:

Quinten SLAMS that mother fucker. He is right though I've heard him explain it all before

Yep he has explained it all before.That interview is funny as hell he tears that dude a new one.I would have done the same thing.

February 6, 2013
11:20 pm
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I personally believe that violent behavior relies more on how one was raised. If the people you were around as a child praised and glorified violence you'd be way more bound to be a violent person. Even then, there are people who are raised around many different beliefs that reject the beliefs. I guess it all comes down to how potent you think, for lack of a better term, brain washing is. Yeah, I believe that people can be brain washed by themes being subtly forced into our faces, but I believe that it's a lot less potent than conspiracy theorists would suggest. In the end, I believe it's one's own self who controls what they do, and that "brain washing" only occurs when one doesn't question things.

February 6, 2013
11:21 pm
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patjoyce said:

I love movies that Quentin Tarantino does but listening to him talk is like listening to someone drag nails across a chalkboard. Twice. Then a third time for good measure. I lost some respect for that dude up there, he was all butthurt. That was all very "I know you are but what am I?" I also have to wonder how much coke dude was on during that interview. Jesus Christ quentin, stop being such a bitchand answer the goddamn question.

haha..I was thinkin the same thing dude,he looks coked the fuck out!I love Quintin though he is such a badass director.Django was dope.Anyone see it?

February 6, 2013
11:33 pm
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LOL quentin is always like that in every interview. I think he is just hyperactive. Haven't seen django yet but I will. Quentin is on of my fav director/screenwriters.

February 6, 2013
11:34 pm
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Django Unchained was great, I liked it a lot. I love all his movies, with the exception of Grindhouse, which kept putting me to sleep. Seriously, it took me at least 4 times to watch the whole thing. Putting me to sleep when I'm wide awake is no small feat, but nobody's perfect. Quentin Tarantino is an awesome director/screenwriter, not so great a conversationalist.

February 6, 2013
11:48 pm
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Ya hes always hyper when he talks cuz hes passionate about movies,but in this interview he looks bad,like sweating and his hair all fuck up.HAHA.I dont know.His editor died and he got another editor and I think that he needs to cut some of it out,some of his scenes drag in Djago but it was a great movie.@PAT....You didnt like Death Proof or all of Grindhouse?I loved Planet terror but Death Proof was slow.Quintin even said that he thinks its his worst film and I agree but it was still tight imo.

February 6, 2013
11:51 pm
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This shits long but its a good watch if ur ever bored.

February 6, 2013
11:56 pm
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I didn't care for "deathproof" either. Planet terror was pretty dope to me....This is irrelevant but have yall ever seen the "Feast" movies? They are Horror/comedies in the vein of the evil dead series...Not plot wise or anything. Good shit man. It has alien fucking!

February 7, 2013
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I've never seen it but I've heard of it.I'll check it out for sure.I love alien fuckin..ever see Splice?ok movie but weird twist with the alien fuckin

February 7, 2013
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I honestly didn't like any of Grindhouse but Death Proof was the main disappointment. I had high hopes for that movie. Planet Terror I didn't really like either, but Rose McGowan with the machine gun leg was cool as fuck. I was watching that like, i'd hit that. She could never fake an orgasm cause everytime she gets off she empties a clip into the ceiling. Or is that only in my fantasies?

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