CellE2057 said

We could, and I do. It’s pretty much the basis for all of my political beliefs. The answer is usually “no, they should not pay for it because they’ll fuck it up.”  I get what you’re askin but honestly, I kind of think it’s a good question. Why shouldn’t we have a privately funded military? Shit, if people are paying for it out of pocket directly they might actually pay attention and end the shit. It’s cheaper and less people die that way.   

If the private military decides to strike off on some shit to justify donations, and that triggers global consequences, like say a trade war, then what? Or a general gets very egotistical and then creates a coup?

Or if we don’t donate to the military and it dwindles. Then we need them? People don’t really understand all that the military does. 

I personally favor the government being an extension of the wants of the people. Although it breaks from time to time,  we use the gov and taxes to pay for shit that makes our nation stronger. If we had a more fair tax system, we would be able to cover a lot of our nation’s needs, no sweat. 

The problem I see with the donations idea is that it lets people off the hook. And i use people to include corporations. Many of whom are the people who use these policies the most. Like with infrastructure. And if we go to forprofit motives for everything we run the very real risk of companies letting their greed drive their production.

Basically there is no perfect solution with the nation we have so for me the best choice is to try and spread the costs and benefits as much as possible. And to provide more oversight. It would be fantastic if we actually listened to the people who know shit about shit but we can’t really expect that that will always happen. 

If it were up to me we would abolish capital as we understand it and avoid the whole issue. 

CellE2057 said

Noah Fence said

If the private military decides to strike off on some shit to justify donations, and that triggers global consequences, like say a trade war, then what? Or a general gets very egotistical and then creates a coup?

Because it’s different now? We already have rich fucks doin what they want with weapons for their investors best interest. The people puttin em in check are the places they would be pointin the bombs at. Only difference is it would be harder to raise the funds to aim the things. Even if that wasn’t the case, any system can get abused and turn bad. That doesn’t mean it’s a bad system. It just means that bad people are using it. 

Basically there is no perfect solution with the nation we have so for me the best choice is to try and spread the costs and benefits as much as possible. And to provide more oversight. 

Agree that there’s no perfect solution. Agree that we should spread the costs but my only caveat is that it should be spread among people that actually want to invest. Anything else screams of a government that thinks they know what’s best for everyone. Which they more often than not are wrong on. Usually because of a lack of oversight. 

If it were up to me we would abolish capital as we understand it and avoid the whole issue.   

My heart agrees but in practice it would never work. Currency is an idea that we find in nature. It’s not an exclusive to humans thing. With that said, Libertarianism would never work either so fuck it, dream on, fellow dreamer.   

I agree with your first point except that when it is the gov doing it, it is (to whatever degree) part of an ongoing strategy that takes into consideration the economic and trade consequences. 

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