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January 29, 2016
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Lol my bad bout the sausage post. Only trying to adjust the atmosphere and see if I get some HATE. No I don’t smoke crack either lol, l only chief.

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King Lucem Ferre said
jiffylong No, no where near as expensive for reasons Scrubb mentioned.

 

@djscrubb the only reason I decided that I want to get paid for collaborations (I’ll make a few exceptions) is because Bloodstepp offered me $50 for my verse on Aliens and Corpses. I think I told him I would have done it for free too. He was willing to pay me for a verse, so why not anybody else? Plus, I can’t spend my money to do verses for other people because I have my stuff professionally recorded for me. I mean, you can’t make money giving a bunch of hand outs. If it’s a smaller rapper, then the chances of my music getting heard are the same. If it’s a bigger rapper, I know they’d have the money to shell out, so why not? And if the song blows up, that person is making money off something I got nothing from. Of course there would be exceptions. But for the most part I want money. Could also go for a royalty deal, though currently Ascap only covers my beats. I’ll try not to be super greedy though.

^^^^ if you do work you deserve to be paid something. You wouldn’t go into mcdonalds and be like yo man check it out I’m a food blogger and I’m just starting out so you hook me up with a some nuggets and I’ll write a review and we can both get fans. 

And if someone is like yo i thought we were homies? If you were a homie you’d be down to pay someone for a verse even if your budget is tight.

 

January 29, 2016
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Of course you deserve to get paid…anyone would say that.  If every unknown rapper said, well my fee’s $200 a verse now.  Who in hell would pay for that??  Not saying Lucem is “unknown” at all, (from the start I was just speaking in general anyway).

What I was trying to say is for someone to charge its gotta be worth it, its gotta be a name.  You wanna promote all over the place saying “Hey everyone I’m doing a track with so and so”  To make you and your product look better, to put value to it.

Is rapping work?  yes of course, so is beat making, editing, mixing ect. Its all work, and I agree with you, people wanna get paid from their work.  But its the hard work you put in to make yourself “that name” people wanna work with and pay for, ya know.

Would any forum rapper pay me to be on their album?  Prolly not, if I was signed to MNE would they….prolly so because I’m not a no name.  lol

I forget what song it was but Rittz address’s this same issue in one of his songs.  But hey, who I’m I, get PAID where you can, we all know how tuff it can be sometimes.  Super props to anyone getting paid from any form of music!  That’s a huge accomplishment. 

January 29, 2016
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deserve aint got nothin to do with it.  nobody anywhere gets what they deserve. 

 

the way it works is, artist charges what they wanna charge, market pays what its willing to pay. 

whatever demand there is for lucem will be affected by charging, but hes only losing the ones who were looking for free shit.  those willing to pay him still remain. 

  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

January 29, 2016
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Mr. Tidwell said

King Lucem Ferre said
jiffylong No, no where near as expensive for reasons Scrubb mentioned.

 

@djscrubb the only reason I decided that I want to get paid for collaborations (I’ll make a few exceptions) is because Bloodstepp offered me $50 for my verse on Aliens and Corpses. I think I told him I would have done it for free too. He was willing to pay me for a verse, so why not anybody else? Plus, I can’t spend my money to do verses for other people because I have my stuff professionally recorded for me. I mean, you can’t make money giving a bunch of hand outs. If it’s a smaller rapper, then the chances of my music getting heard are the same. If it’s a bigger rapper, I know they’d have the money to shell out, so why not? And if the song blows up, that person is making money off something I got nothing from. Of course there would be exceptions. But for the most part I want money. Could also go for a royalty deal, though currently Ascap only covers my beats. I’ll try not to be super greedy though.

^^^^ if you do work you deserve to be paid something. You wouldn’t go into mcdonalds and be like yo man check it out I’m a food blogger and I’m just starting out so you hook me up with a some nuggets and I’ll write a review and we can both get fans. 

And if someone is like yo i thought we were homies? If you were a homie you’d be down to pay someone for a verse even if your budget is tight.

This is not the same at all. McDonald’s is a huge well known brand name. It would be more like someone going to a local mom and pop restaurant and saying the same thing. 

 

I have no qualms with Lucem charging btw. His beats alone are worth paying for. 

January 29, 2016
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djscrubb said
Of course you deserve to get paid…anyone would say that.  If every unknown rapper said, well my fee’s $200 a verse now.  Who in hell would pay for that??  Not saying Lucem is “unknown” at all, (from the start I was just speaking in general anyway).

Lucem definitely qualifies as “Unknown” in the rap world…..

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deserve aint got nothin to do with it.  nobody anywhere gets what they deserve. 

Hardcore, bro.

 

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January 29, 2016
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I completely understand where you’re coming from, Scrubb. That was my whole mindset on verses and beat making too. But I read somewhere that you don’t want to do that too often if you really want to make money off of it. Here and there is okay, but ultimately doing it too often is selling yourself short. Recognition has nothing to do with it. Then again that was about beats rather than verses. Either way, if I ask any of you to collab I’ll pay you guys too.

 

Also, that reminds me, I really hope that beat prototype doesn’t get lost. I have an untagged .wav on my Ipod but no track stems.

January 30, 2016
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Miklo Velka said

King Lucem Ferre said
 Bloodstepp offered me $50 for my verse on Aliens and Corpses. I think I told him I would have done it for free too. He was willing to pay me for a verse, so why not anybody else?

@the-warlock  > @bloodstepp 

 

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