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7:08 pm
November 30, 2012
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Yeah, clowns without paint won’t scare anyone lol
9:31 pm
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April 1, 2012
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It was a dope jacket yeah, but yeah I'm not spending $500 on no jacket, I don't got that kinda money and even if I did it wouldn't go towards a jacket. I even talked with his old dude TJ, his manager or his boy at the time, he told me he would hook me up and blah blah blah. I ain't gonna hate on the dude, I dig RLP, shit I hope he got himself and his kids a meal with that $30, but at least handle yo business.
9:48 pm
May 10, 2012
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Yup u r totally right cuz ICP would have created the wicked shit then….
10:03 pm
September 18, 2012
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Didn't Violent J say that he thought that the dream was influenced by the hype man that they painted like a clown which was inspired by Esham?
11:45 pm
November 30, 2012
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I don’t remember ever having read that personally, it’s been awhile though. I remember he said something about a carnival barker, the rest is a complete mess inside my head. I just have to read BTP again, Imeant to start a few hours ago and started drinking whiskey instead. Maybe tomorrow.
12:22 am
January 2, 2013
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i personally agree w pat imo he went downhill my 3 fav esham albums is closed casket (which i have on tape shows ya my age lol) kkkill the fetus and detroit dog shit personally what gets me about his music is u can listen to a cd and have a few good quality songs (talking about sound and production) then u have songs that sounded like they were recorded with headphones as a mic through a burgerking drive through
7:59 am
December 3, 2012
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I thought the hype man hanging from the tire swing was influenced by the dream not the other way around? Either way icp and esham both were influenced by somebody.
Black Sabbath was doing the wicked shit a couple decades before either of em. What's important is icp did what esham did but they did it much better(imo)
There's a gateway in our minds
That leads somewhere out there, far beyond this plane
Where reptile aliens made of light
Cut you open and pull out all your pain
Sturgill Simpson- Turtles All The Way Down
9:47 am
December 18, 2012
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icp would have never had the balls to wear facepaint if esham wasnt out creating a scene already. only j liked the clown idea and got shaggy to go along with it. shaggs bro wasnt down. they would have remained “gangstas” and never had the “dream” or whatever. re-read behind the paint.
esham created a scene for that kinda music and icp followed in his footesteps for almost 4 years before surpassing the teacher and becoming the master. if e's crazy ass brother didnt go to jail in 94 who knows where rlp and psy would be right now
10:15 am
December 3, 2012
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Post hoc ergo propter hoc (“After this, Therefore because of this”)
We can never know what woulda went down hadn't esham been an influence so it's kinda pointless to talk about.
There's a gateway in our minds
That leads somewhere out there, far beyond this plane
Where reptile aliens made of light
Cut you open and pull out all your pain
Sturgill Simpson- Turtles All The Way Down
4:29 pm
November 30, 2012
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Good point. Speculations
12:20 am
May 10, 2012
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I agree that we do not know what would have happened but we all know that we wouldn’t be on a forum on faygoluvers right now Cruz there would be no clowns throwing faygo
12:55 am
November 30, 2012
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I don’t know what you’re saying, Esham’s responsible for that too? We wouldn’t be here if they never threw Faygo? We’re totally getting off subject here, which is fine with me, but Esham doesn’t have the time for all this. He needs our help now. Send him a Faygo bottle if you want, that’s five pennies, 10 where he’s at. I mailed my dime yesterday, I hope they get it too, them niggaz look like they’re from Haiti in recent photos, please help
2:51 am
May 10, 2012
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If they never threw faygo how would this site be called faygoluvers? I’m not saying he is responsible for the faygo but ya nvm u r too one sided on this matter….
8:22 am
hey patty ,eshams not starving he still has 10's of fans supporting him , im sure e's got 20 buck's left in his bank account & he must have made hundreds of dollar's off his latest dub step album . i know for a fact that ther are at least 6 or 7 people on this site that bought his album , thats like 30 percent of his fan base right ther , so fuck giving esham pennies , beat that pat 
11:02 am
December 3, 2012
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ChronicBudsmoka said:
I agree that we do not know what would have happened but we all know that we wouldn't be on a forum on faygoluvers right now Cruz there would be no clowns throwing faygo
That was the whole point of my post man. You really just don't know whether or not we would be on a forum on faygoluvers.. Maybe ICP coulda still got to where they are now if esham never woulda existed. Or maybe you are 100% right. We just don't know and all of us are just speculating.
BTW contrary to what warlock and others may believe I have already supported esham and bought a few of his cd's over the years. I don't completely hate the dude or all of his music. Y'all do have to admit dude does have a shady attitude towards business and I'd guess life in general. That is all
There's a gateway in our minds
That leads somewhere out there, far beyond this plane
Where reptile aliens made of light
Cut you open and pull out all your pain
Sturgill Simpson- Turtles All The Way Down
11:16 am
March 31, 2012
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lol why wouldnt i believe that? but yeah i agree hes definitely never came across as optimistic haha
2:26 pm
September 18, 2012
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570palo said:
i personally agree w pat imo he went downhill my 3 fav esham albums is closed casket (which i have on tape shows ya my age lol) kkkill the fetus and detroit dog shit personally what gets me about his music is u can listen to a cd and have a few good quality songs (talking about sound and production) then u have songs that sounded like they were recorded with headphones as a mic through a burgerking drive through
Yeah that irritates the fuck out of me.
2:28 pm
September 18, 2012
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Slumerican502 said:
Post hoc ergo propter hoc (“After this, Therefore because of this”)
We can never know what woulda went down hadn't esham been an influence so it's kinda pointless to talk about.
My homie busting out the logical fallacies.
2:39 pm
December 3, 2012
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Lol I think we are all guilty of logical fallacies every once in awhile. I know I am. Which is why I study the different types of fallacies. To help me become a better man, plus it helps you sift through the full of shit people we come into contact with daily
There's a gateway in our minds
That leads somewhere out there, far beyond this plane
Where reptile aliens made of light
Cut you open and pull out all your pain
Sturgill Simpson- Turtles All The Way Down
2:41 pm
September 18, 2012
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Esham is still putting CDs in stores across America, not many but some. He still has the money to publish album covers and copyright (I assume). He still has the money to pay that dude, (who according to bloodstepp is pretty expensive) to design album artwork for him.He still has money. There is no doubt about that. He's just fading. Nobodies giving a fuck anymore. He still makes good music. Every once in a while he gets this really really dope song like this
Maybe if he were to take more time on his lyrics and maybe use some of that money he has towards, well idk, better mixing and mastering than he could be the shit.
He's gotten really fucking lazy though. Now days he doesn't make beats, he just raps over dubstep and techno songs, and that's why I mentioned before that I think he's losing his passion for music. If I'm right about that, then it's a good thing that he is quitting.
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