Lucem Ferre said:

Ha ha, drunken assholes are funny.

Definitely a hater. I mean, as pat said, when you're on drugs your true colors come out. Looks like a bit of hater and maybe jealousy, I definitely saw a hint of racism in there too.Maybe just bored and drinking by himself, taking out frustrations on Esham. (it's ok you can admit it we all do it at least once in our lives)

Either way, when I get drunk by myself and need to take out my frustrations on something I usually take it out on religions or some shit like that, you know, something that I really really hate. I never really have taken out frustrations on a musical artist, no matter how bad I thought they sucked I never hated an artist. What did Esham do to you? Did he rape your mother? Did he fuck your wife? Did he touch your no-no spot while you were a child? Or are you just that problem free that this underground artist who in no way is forced down your throat with endless piles of songs being jammed into your ears like a rapist's penis going into a poor unentered vagina that you have to launch your frustrations at Esham and anybody who enjoys his music.

This is what makes some of these mother fuckers haters.

Regularly when somebody hates an artist they list a simple list explaining why they don't like the artist and then move on. They also don't make a thread based on insulting said artist sort of like this. People who aren't haters don't want to spend time hating on an artist we don't like simply because we aren't haters.

Now the haters go out of there way to take any chance to hate on an artist. Like when somebody who doesn't like Esham responds to something said about Esham with irrelevant hate. Or when some body enters a forum about Esham and says something about Esham with irrelevant hate. Or when somebody makes a thread just to hate on Esham. That is the biggest clue into realizing that somebody is a hater, they make a thread specifically to hate on an artist.

Now I admit, I throw in a few Jokerr insults in my posts, but I wouldn't go out of my way to respond to every post about Jokerr just to hate on the guy. That's just on some hater shit and is also disrespectful to the person who is posting. I definitely wouldn't post a whole thread just to hate on the Jokerr either. I got better things to do, bigger problems than him. Actually, I don't really think he's a problem, I don't have to listen to him. Hell, I hope Jokerr gets rich and famous or what ever the fuck his goals are. Point is, a hater goes out of his way just to hate on an artist, and I think we all know the exact people on this forum that like to do that shit, and I am not naming names because the names that I would name secretly know who they are. In fact, I challenge these haters to come out and show some balls by admitting that I am talking about them.

I also have to correct you by saying that certain drugs do fuck with your head. Heroin and meth and shit. Yeah, they do make you say untrue shit. They make you believe untrue shit. They make you paranoid as fuck. How do I know? I've been around this shit my whole life. They also give you mood swings and make people turn on people they'd never turn on if they were sober. So yeah, I think Esham is a tweaker. Either way I bet Violent J himself has gotten mad at least once and wanted to say "fuck juggalos". Actually, if you are a juggalo or have always been around juggalos your whole life, I bet you have said "fuck juggalos" or at least thought it. If not then you are either a liar or a sheep.

This is funny as fuck....but seriously I don't think we should send him any pennies, he needs to get a job. Lol....also without esham I doubt there would be this 'juggalo family' u love so much

patjoyce said:

That's debateable. Just because Esham was an influence to ICP doesn't mean there would be no ICP if Esham never dropped anything. It's like when people give Kool Herc props for creating rap, if he didn't someone else would have. And no, I don't want to debate Kool Herc either, most people just credit him as the first, also debateable. That's like saying if there was no Kool Herc there would be no Esham, I just find that to be bullshit.

sure someone else mightve came along but thats now what actually fuckin happened.. so show respect where respect is due or forever be looked at as a faggot