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LOL I love that Borat song. The brilliance behind the Borat character is how well he exposes real racists in America. Like, he's trying to be as shocking and offensive as possible and these people sing a long to it not realizing that they are the butt of his joke.

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Some art is hypnotic. Meet Cultural Appropriation Pussy:

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Does the cover of my recent album count as art? I took a picture of the crick and edited it messing with the saturation and vibrancy and whatever else qualities a picture has. I had someone else do the text and swirls and logo tho. 

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Does the cover of my recent album count as art? I took a picture of the crick and edited it messing with the saturation and vibrancy and whatever else qualities a picture has. I had someone else do the text and swirls and logo tho. 

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Of course it is. And I will listen to it as per request, I've just been kinda busy and lazy lately.

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Some art is hypnotic. Meet Cultural Appropriation Pussy:

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Cultural appropriation is a racist concept created by the white supremecists to prevent having to accept diversification.

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White supremacy didn't create cultural appropriation. Cultures influence other cultures. That's why there are so many cultures with dreadlocks. That's why soccer, a European sport is in African, Asian and Latin countries. Hey, Mexicans learned the Waltz from the Austrians. Are you appropriating from black culture with your rap songs? Are black rappers calling themselves Gotti appropriation? Do you workout, have tats, drink, eat, sing, dance, sleep, think or breathe oxygen? You're stealing from my culture.

Don't feel like posting but Joe Rogan on cultural appropriation is a good listen.

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Thanks!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaAsAQTzABU

YouTube Video Joe Rogan on Cultural Appropriation 

I'm team "appropriate whatever works". Wanna appropriate clean drinking water, indoor plumbing, Western medicine, etc.? Sure. Wanna bitch about the past while demanding reparations? GTFO. ART!

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Solomon Grundy said
White supremacy didn't create cultural appropriation. Cultures influence other cultures. That's why there are so many cultures with dreadlocks. That's why soccer, a European sport is in African, Asian and Latin countries. Hey, Mexicans learned the Waltz from the Austrians. Are you appropriating from black culture with your rap songs? Are black rappers calling themselves Gotti appropriation? Do you workout, have tats, drink, eat, sing, dance, sleep, think or breathe oxygen? You're stealing from my culture.

Don't feel like posting but Joe Rogan on cultural appropriation is a good listen.  

I find it hilarious that you probably didn't truly comprehend what I was saying in that satirical comment.

 

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More art of the remix:

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Whatever helps you unbunch your panties.

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See my reply to psyral about "systemic racism".

As far as the far left and the right both being equally racist, the people you mentioned seem pretty shitty. 

http://www.latimes.com/politic.....story.html

https://www.ocregister.com/2018/02/21/southern-poverty-law-centers-new-hate-map-shows-38-extremist-groups-in-southern-california/

https://www.propublica.org/article/california-murder-suspect-atomwaffen-division-extremist-hate-group

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/hate-groups-in-america/

I could go on but since you started with personal information I feel like it might be helpful to include some of mine.

My elementary school was awarded the most racially diverse school in the state when I was in the 5th grade. I've always assumed that that implies it was one of the most diverse in the country.  It was nothing to meet kids from other cultures. Many didn't even speak English. I remember trying to teach a classmate how to identify himself and how to tell people where his home was in case of an emergency. He had just come to the US from Cambodia.

So one day this Procter sees the homie standing around the lunch benches (we didn't have a cafeteria) looking for me. Once you left the benches you were supposed to stay away from the area, stay on the playground. He saw me finishing lunch and started walking towards me. The procter grabbed him by the arm and through him to the ground, hard onto the black top. He told her his name and pointed to me and said friend. He didn't understand her commands and kept saying he didn't speak English. 

I walked over and told the procter to let him up. She said not until he apologizes for talking back. She said that he was cussing at her in Spanish. I told her that he isn't Mexican and that he doesn't understand English. She called him a racial slur and said he was lying. 

I went and found a teacher who knew me and the homie and when we got back the procter told the teacher that he was in trouble for throwing rocks.

She straight lied Because she didn't believe that the Cambodian kid wasn't cussing her out in Spanish.

This kinda thing happened often, but it didn't seem like a big deal. Like oh it was a misunderstanding.  

The Cambodian kid that I was friends with ended up being homeschooled. It took a few months. This adult woman bullied him out of public school. Out of one of the most racially diverse schools in the country and the most diverse in the state.

Throughout my education, I have watched people of color be treated differently by the system simply for not confirming to white people's ideas of acceptable behavior.

In jr. High I saw several people get dress coded, being sent home from school for not dressing appropriately, for things that I and other students would get away with. From sagging pants or wearing hats to having sports team logos on our clothes. Girls would get coded for having beads in their braided hair. Like these are everyday things that repeatedly targeted black kids in a community that was supposed to be "not racist".

I was only ever dress coded once. When i got coded, I was a sophomore in high school. I wore cutoff shorts and pearl jam t shirts. I had had long hair but was finally eligible to compete on the swim team (my gpa has been too low in 9th grade) and shaved my head.

A day after I shaved my head I was dress coded for "gang attire". When asked my name, I gave it to the security guard who said I was lying. He asked to see my id. I showed it to him. It had long hair. He said I stole it. 

I ended up getting suspended for a week for insubordination even though I complied with commands and was eventually found to be telling the truth. He read me as latino and associated that with gangs. 

On day one of my high school career I and much of my grade, were taken to the gym and divided into groups where guidance councillors looked at our transcripts and gave us "advice" for how to manage high school. I was told that I would never graduate high school, and that they thought something happened to my test scores because my English scores were "too high". I was put in remedial classes.

My high school was super hella gay. It was nothing to see two dudes making out in the halls or fucking in the bathroom. Saw it every day. Girls too. Our GSA broke up because it was "unnecessary". This was in the 90s. I'm saying this cuz it shows how attitudes were. It wasn't even like the administration went out and stamped out homophobia, shit was just cool. No one cared. 

Three separate times the school was vandalized with white supremacist graffiti, swastikas, racial slurs. 

Two times, skin heads showed up to school events and attacked someone. I never knew the people they attacked but a kid I did know who was super skinny and small, probably weighed 75lbs, was murdered two blocks away from the school the same week as one of these graffiti attacks. We never knew if it was the skinheads or not. It was a high crime area. It's possible it was gangs or a robbery or a misunderstanding. 

They stuck a broom handle through his neck.

When our swim and water polo teams played against the private schools, racial slurs were hurled in the locker room and in the pool. Even coaches and officials would make jokes about being surprised that the black kids on our team knew how to swim.

I dropped out of high school along with about half of my student body. It took me until my 30s before I went back to school because I hated the racism embodied in the education system, and the teachers, security, administration, and procters who were racist.

My university has less than 2% of its population that are African American compared to 6% population in the state. 

It's way disproportionately white and Asian. There are classes where I am the only latino and since I'm read as white we can say that there are classes with zero Latinos or African Americans. Zero.

I took two quarters on afro futurism and one quarter on African American women in art history. The afro futurism classes had two black students, total. The art history course was part of the African American studies program and to get a degree in African American studies (ie AA history) you have to take this class. 

There were 6 different black students and the two from afro futurism (total of 8) in a class of almost 50, in a course required for a black history degree.

I haven't checked the professors at my university but at my JC i had one professor who was black. He was one of three professors on the whole campus who was black.

When I took African American lit at the JC, I was one of three people who weren't black. 

After reading about the black panther party, someone tagged racial slurs on our classroom door.

We never knew who but the school didn't clean it up for two months. For two months black students had to read graf that told them they weren't wanted in the community.

At the UC that I attend, racial tagging has appeared but was immediately cleared up the following day. It was typically done in chalk and was easy to clear up.

All this is to say that in southern California, I've never experienced post racial America. Racism has been a systemic force that I have been aware of my entire life. 

It wasn't always school though. It was cops abusing their power (rampart!), it was housing practices which kept poc in certain communities (it was once illegal for my family to buy property in different cities, even as recent as the 70s, but even after it was considered illegal, people wouldn't sell houses to poc). This is why in LA you can be in Compton or crenshaw or south central and cross the street into Beverly hills or Brentwood etc. Million dollar homes across a freeway from housing projects because of zoning practices.

I don't speak Spanish because my grandmas family (who had been in the LA area since before California was a state) was targeted with racism for not assimilating. So my grandmas generation stopped speaking Spanish and didn't pass the language on to my mom, who couldn't pass it on to me.

I used to work at this job that hired undocumented workers by the (literal) truck load. Every two weeks, the Friday of payday, ICE would raid. It was cheaper for the company to pay the fines associated with hiring the workers illegally than to pay them their wages.

My mother works for a science museum. Her boss is the president of operations for several different campuses. I took my niece to one of the campuses and was talking to a docent about how my mother works for her bosses bosses boss and she asked if my mom speaks English when she starts texting her about something that happened with my niece. My niece and I don't speak Spanish but this woman assumed that my mother (with a job under the main boss) might not speak English.

But it's also skinheads rolling up at an ICP show during the bizzar bizaar tour.

Or our state prisons being rampant with gangs and racial groups, and disproportionate numbers of POC.

This is what i mean when I say systemic racism is redundant. There is no solitary racism. It's all a web. It's all interconnected and backed by systemic forces.

White supremacists thinking that they are better than POC wouldn't mean shit if there wasn't a system that reinforces them. That's why it's important to recognize that this racism is -everywhere-. It's cultural. It's systemic in nature. It goes beyond simple emotions. It goes beyond ignorant ideas. It's statistical. People treat people different because of perceived race in proximity to whiteness because our culture is rooted in lies that non white people are primitive, angry, violent, sex crazed, immoral beasts. That non white people are less human. 

And that shit is whack. Until we accept that it's part of every community, no matter left or right, rich or poor, etc we won't ever undo the damage done. And creating a false equivalence between poc being distrustful of whites and white people oppressing poc, does a disservice to all of us.

Fox news is racist, but so is cnn. I remember when Barack Obama was losing the primaries to Hillary, cnn compared him to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad because neither wore a tie.

Many of Bill Clinton's policies were used to disproportionately target POC by the justice system too.

And Hillary and even Joe Biden had made comments about Obama that were racially loaded.

Our communities can't heal if we ignore the disease and try to treat superficial symptoms. I'll pop off at assholes but the real way to create change is to empower poc and disrupt systems of power that contribute to the racist power structure.

Lastly, about your comment about being heated. I'm not. If I sound it, I apologize.  

Okay, I'm loaded with work rn which is why it took me so long to respond, but I have a few notes. First of all hate crimes are not proof that an area is equally racist, why? Well one because crimes that are done to make a statement, any statement, are purely countercultural, meaning they go against the beliefs of the general populous, and 2, some of the most southern states, Including Arkansas and Georgia don't even have hate crime laws, there have been several cases of crimes committed, even just last year, that would easily have been branded hate crimes but occurred in areas like Georgia and hence were given a much smaller sentence, and just because unlawful people show racism, does not mean that society has a racial bias, and that goes for any state. People are drastically more likely to commit hate crimes in areas that discourage said hate. Its just a fact of life, extremists target the areas that hate them the most.

As for people in power in general, I actually do think their racist, kinda, crime rates among minorities are huge, so as unfair as it is to judge somebody for being one, its almost inevitable for people in power. It doesn't make it right, but it makes it efficient, if you are ANYBODY that is deemed a potential risk factor, you will be monitored more heavily. A rich black man will not be targeted anywhere near as much as a trailer trash white dude with "fuck you" tattoos on his face. The reason minorites are targeted is because they are deemed at higher risk of committing crimes, because, statistically speaking, they are, so is the trailer trash white guy, he's a risk too, so am I because I'm a schizophrenic (though that one actually makes sense), it has to do with the people that those in power associate you with. My school associates me with druggies, rowdy fighters, and crazy people, so I am constantly targeted. Meanwhile if you look like godamn Urkel you not likely to be targeted because your just not somebody they consider threatening, it does naturally lend itself to racial bias but it is not strictly a race issue, and in terms of the minds of actual people not corrupted by the prospect of having to control an entire population, it says nothing.

I don't have time to read the rest of this, I'm super busy, but yeah

Also if you want to talk about double standards, despite multiple racially charged attacks on white people, none of the people involved were convicted of hate crimes, and the one group that was, was convicted under the guise that their target was disabled.

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Does the cover of my recent album count as art? I took a picture of the crick and edited it messing with the saturation and vibrancy and whatever else qualities a picture has. I had someone else do the text and swirls and logo tho. 

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Anything presented as art is art. Do you think this is an art object? Then it is. If you don't, then it might not be. 

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Noah Fence said

See my reply to psyral about "systemic racism".

As far as the far left and the right both being equally racist, the people you mentioned seem pretty shitty. 

http://www.latimes.com/politic.....story.html

https://www.ocregister.com/2018/02/21/southern-poverty-law-centers-new-hate-map-shows-38-extremist-groups-in-southern-california/

https://www.propublica.org/article/california-murder-suspect-atomwaffen-division-extremist-hate-group

https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/hate-groups-in-america/

I could go on but since you started with personal information I feel like it might be helpful to include some of mine.

My elementary school was awarded the most racially diverse school in the state when I was in the 5th grade. I've always assumed that that implies it was one of the most diverse in the country.  It was nothing to meet kids from other cultures. Many didn't even speak English. I remember trying to teach a classmate how to identify himself and how to tell people where his home was in case of an emergency. He had just come to the US from Cambodia.

So one day this Procter sees the homie standing around the lunch benches (we didn't have a cafeteria) looking for me. Once you left the benches you were supposed to stay away from the area, stay on the playground. He saw me finishing lunch and started walking towards me. The procter grabbed him by the arm and through him to the ground, hard onto the black top. He told her his name and pointed to me and said friend. He didn't understand her commands and kept saying he didn't speak English. 

I walked over and told the procter to let him up. She said not until he apologizes for talking back. She said that he was cussing at her in Spanish. I told her that he isn't Mexican and that he doesn't understand English. She called him a racial slur and said he was lying. 

I went and found a teacher who knew me and the homie and when we got back the procter told the teacher that he was in trouble for throwing rocks.

She straight lied Because she didn't believe that the Cambodian kid wasn't cussing her out in Spanish.

This kinda thing happened often, but it didn't seem like a big deal. Like oh it was a misunderstanding.  

The Cambodian kid that I was friends with ended up being homeschooled. It took a few months. This adult woman bullied him out of public school. Out of one of the most racially diverse schools in the country and the most diverse in the state.

Throughout my education, I have watched people of color be treated differently by the system simply for not confirming to white people's ideas of acceptable behavior.

In jr. High I saw several people get dress coded, being sent home from school for not dressing appropriately, for things that I and other students would get away with. From sagging pants or wearing hats to having sports team logos on our clothes. Girls would get coded for having beads in their braided hair. Like these are everyday things that repeatedly targeted black kids in a community that was supposed to be "not racist".

I was only ever dress coded once. When i got coded, I was a sophomore in high school. I wore cutoff shorts and pearl jam t shirts. I had had long hair but was finally eligible to compete on the swim team (my gpa has been too low in 9th grade) and shaved my head.

A day after I shaved my head I was dress coded for "gang attire". When asked my name, I gave it to the security guard who said I was lying. He asked to see my id. I showed it to him. It had long hair. He said I stole it. 

I ended up getting suspended for a week for insubordination even though I complied with commands and was eventually found to be telling the truth. He read me as latino and associated that with gangs. 

On day one of my high school career I and much of my grade, were taken to the gym and divided into groups where guidance councillors looked at our transcripts and gave us "advice" for how to manage high school. I was told that I would never graduate high school, and that they thought something happened to my test scores because my English scores were "too high". I was put in remedial classes.

My high school was super hella gay. It was nothing to see two dudes making out in the halls or fucking in the bathroom. Saw it every day. Girls too. Our GSA broke up because it was "unnecessary". This was in the 90s. I'm saying this cuz it shows how attitudes were. It wasn't even like the administration went out and stamped out homophobia, shit was just cool. No one cared. 

Three separate times the school was vandalized with white supremacist graffiti, swastikas, racial slurs. 

Two times, skin heads showed up to school events and attacked someone. I never knew the people they attacked but a kid I did know who was super skinny and small, probably weighed 75lbs, was murdered two blocks away from the school the same week as one of these graffiti attacks. We never knew if it was the skinheads or not. It was a high crime area. It's possible it was gangs or a robbery or a misunderstanding. 

They stuck a broom handle through his neck.

When our swim and water polo teams played against the private schools, racial slurs were hurled in the locker room and in the pool. Even coaches and officials would make jokes about being surprised that the black kids on our team knew how to swim.

I dropped out of high school along with about half of my student body. It took me until my 30s before I went back to school because I hated the racism embodied in the education system, and the teachers, security, administration, and procters who were racist.

My university has less than 2% of its population that are African American compared to 6% population in the state. 

It's way disproportionately white and Asian. There are classes where I am the only latino and since I'm read as white we can say that there are classes with zero Latinos or African Americans. Zero.

I took two quarters on afro futurism and one quarter on African American women in art history. The afro futurism classes had two black students, total. The art history course was part of the African American studies program and to get a degree in African American studies (ie AA history) you have to take this class. 

There were 6 different black students and the two from afro futurism (total of 8) in a class of almost 50, in a course required for a black history degree.

I haven't checked the professors at my university but at my JC i had one professor who was black. He was one of three professors on the whole campus who was black.

When I took African American lit at the JC, I was one of three people who weren't black. 

After reading about the black panther party, someone tagged racial slurs on our classroom door.

We never knew who but the school didn't clean it up for two months. For two months black students had to read graf that told them they weren't wanted in the community.

At the UC that I attend, racial tagging has appeared but was immediately cleared up the following day. It was typically done in chalk and was easy to clear up.

All this is to say that in southern California, I've never experienced post racial America. Racism has been a systemic force that I have been aware of my entire life. 

It wasn't always school though. It was cops abusing their power (rampart!), it was housing practices which kept poc in certain communities (it was once illegal for my family to buy property in different cities, even as recent as the 70s, but even after it was considered illegal, people wouldn't sell houses to poc). This is why in LA you can be in Compton or crenshaw or south central and cross the street into Beverly hills or Brentwood etc. Million dollar homes across a freeway from housing projects because of zoning practices.

I don't speak Spanish because my grandmas family (who had been in the LA area since before California was a state) was targeted with racism for not assimilating. So my grandmas generation stopped speaking Spanish and didn't pass the language on to my mom, who couldn't pass it on to me.

I used to work at this job that hired undocumented workers by the (literal) truck load. Every two weeks, the Friday of payday, ICE would raid. It was cheaper for the company to pay the fines associated with hiring the workers illegally than to pay them their wages.

My mother works for a science museum. Her boss is the president of operations for several different campuses. I took my niece to one of the campuses and was talking to a docent about how my mother works for her bosses bosses boss and she asked if my mom speaks English when she starts texting her about something that happened with my niece. My niece and I don't speak Spanish but this woman assumed that my mother (with a job under the main boss) might not speak English.

But it's also skinheads rolling up at an ICP show during the bizzar bizaar tour.

Or our state prisons being rampant with gangs and racial groups, and disproportionate numbers of POC.

This is what i mean when I say systemic racism is redundant. There is no solitary racism. It's all a web. It's all interconnected and backed by systemic forces.

White supremacists thinking that they are better than POC wouldn't mean shit if there wasn't a system that reinforces them. That's why it's important to recognize that this racism is -everywhere-. It's cultural. It's systemic in nature. It goes beyond simple emotions. It goes beyond ignorant ideas. It's statistical. People treat people different because of perceived race in proximity to whiteness because our culture is rooted in lies that non white people are primitive, angry, violent, sex crazed, immoral beasts. That non white people are less human. 

And that shit is whack. Until we accept that it's part of every community, no matter left or right, rich or poor, etc we won't ever undo the damage done. And creating a false equivalence between poc being distrustful of whites and white people oppressing poc, does a disservice to all of us.

Fox news is racist, but so is cnn. I remember when Barack Obama was losing the primaries to Hillary, cnn compared him to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad because neither wore a tie.

Many of Bill Clinton's policies were used to disproportionately target POC by the justice system too.

And Hillary and even Joe Biden had made comments about Obama that were racially loaded.

Our communities can't heal if we ignore the disease and try to treat superficial symptoms. I'll pop off at assholes but the real way to create change is to empower poc and disrupt systems of power that contribute to the racist power structure.

Lastly, about your comment about being heated. I'm not. If I sound it, I apologize.  

Okay, I'm loaded with work rn which is why it took me so long to respond, but I have a few notes. First of all hate crimes are not proof that an area is equally racist, why? Well one because crimes that are done to make a statement, any statement, are purely countercultural, meaning they go against the beliefs of the general populous, and 2, some of the most southern states, Including Arkansas and Georgia don't even have hate crime laws, there have been several cases of crimes committed, even just last year, that would easily have been branded hate crimes but occurred in areas like Georgia and hence were given a much smaller sentence, and just because unlawful people show racism, does not mean that society has a racial bias, and that goes for any state. People are drastically more likely to commit hate crimes in areas that discourage said hate. Its just a fact of life, extremists target the areas that hate them the most.

As for people in power in general, I actually do think their racist, kinda, crime rates among minorities are huge, so as unfair as it is to judge somebody for being one, its almost inevitable for people in power. It doesn't make it right, but it makes it efficient, if you are ANYBODY that is deemed a potential risk factor, you will be monitored more heavily. A rich black man will not be targeted anywhere near as much as a trailer trash white dude with "fuck you" tattoos on his face. The reason minorites are targeted is because they are deemed at higher risk of committing crimes, because, statistically speaking, they are, so is the trailer trash white guy, he's a risk too, so am I because I'm a schizophrenic (though that one actually makes sense), it has to do with the people that those in power associate you with. My school associates me with druggies, rowdy fighters, and crazy people, so I am constantly targeted. Meanwhile if you look like godamn Urkel you not likely to be targeted because your just not somebody they consider threatening, it does naturally lend itself to racial bias but it is not strictly a race issue, and in terms of the minds of actual people not corrupted by the prospect of having to control an entire population, it says nothing.

I don't have time to read the rest of this, I'm super busy, but yeah

Also if you want to talk about double standards, despite multiple racially charged attacks on white people, none of the people involved were convicted of hate crimes, and the one group that was, was convicted under the guise that their target was disabled.  

The links aren't about hate crimes, but they document the rise of hate groups.

Hate crimes are not necessarily counter culture. the KKK committed lynchings back in the day and they were huge social events for white people.

Yes people in power are racist but so are people not in power, and that's how the systemic nature of racism work. It relies on the cultural attitudes about race being inherently biased against black people. That's why it's inherently systemic.

Neil Degrasse Tyson has spoken about how he used to get targeted by police coming out of or going into the science labs at his university but never going in to or out of the gym. 

it's fundamentally untrue that the police or racist people don't hassle black people who "look like urkel". Black people of all stripes are pingeonholed as being dangerous. Tamir rice was 12 when he was shot and killed. Video shows that the police shot him -while- yelling to drop the weapon they claim to believe he was waiving around. It was a toy. He had a toy gun in a state that allows open carry of real guns and they shot him as they were jumping out of the car and telling him to drop the "weapon".

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Racism is a real problem, and it is inherently systemic. People who have studied racism, the causes of racism, the outcomes of racism, etc, have learned that racism is -as people have always said- a systemic issue.

And don't worry about not replying right away. It's midterms for me so I'm sporadic at best.

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The problem of differentiating between some imaginary singular racism and the very real systemic nature of racism is that racism is inherently systemic. Saying "systemic racism" is like saying "pin number".

It's helpful in certain discussions but it's useless when addressing personal involvement in that system because white people can always say that they aren't part of the problem, but they are. Always. That's what makes it systemic, that's what makes it oppression, and that's what makes it a problem. 

White people can't be oppressed by people of color for being white, not in our culture and not in any plausible way.   

You completely missed my point. As I said you are using a redefinition of the word racism. It is an "ism". It is not and should never be defined by its effects. It no longer can be an "ism" if defined that way. Etymology is necessary to prevent issues of meaning. The effects of racism is not racism. To redefine a word to be an exclusionary subset of its original definition makes the word have less meaning. I acknowledged that particular sub and meta populations may express the effects of racism to specific categorizations. That does not mean that those categorized cannot themselves be racist. It also does not mean that of the effects of racism do not have bias applications. I completely agree that the effects have bias application but actual racism has a broader scope than its application.

It is a very simple idea. To used "race" as classification for any purpose is, by definition, racist. For me to call myself Hispanic is racist just as me saying I am part Mexican is nationalist. I am not talking about the effects of racism. To talk about the effects, I use the word effects. If I am referring to the systemic aspect of racism, I use the adjective systemic to modify the meaning of racism. No need to redefine the word. Just use the appropriate modifier to reduce the scope if needed. That is why we have adjectives.

 

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Capitalism is an ism so therefore you participating in the systemic construct that is capital is capitalist. 

Racism is an ism so therefore you participating in the systemic construct that is race is racist.

There's no "systemic capitalism" because that would be redundant (and ridiculous). 

Impoverished people are oppressed by capitalism and are forced to operate within the confines of the systemic construct that is capita in order to survive.

POC are oppressed by racism and are forced to operate within the confines of the systemic construct that is race in order to survive.

POC recognizing their heritage and culture is not racist. White people trying to erase individual cultures to unite disparate social groups by excluding other groups is racism.

Being white is racist, being Irish isn't.

Latinx is a social construct created in response to European imperialism.

Identifying heritage isn't strictly nationalist. Nationalism is rooted in a belief that your nation is inherently better than other nations. Recognizing historical facts (my family comes from Mexico) is different than nationalistic ideas like Mexico has an inherent right too exploit developing nations.

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oh and art.

Today a girl walked into class naked and punched her genitals until she bled. It was hard to watch. She did a great job.

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Oh and Iris, no POC  are not more likely to commit crime. They are more likely to be punished for it tho. There's tons of research which demonstrate that poc are policed more despite not being any more likely to commit crimes. Shoulda said that earlier.

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Being white is racist? Being a Noah is retarded. Which one is factual? The world may never know.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/30/us/police-video-louisiana-shooting.html

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Noah Fence said 

Capitalism is an ism so therefore you participating in the systemic construct that is capital is capitalist. 

Racism is an ism so therefore you participating in the systemic construct that is race is racist.

There's no "systemic capitalism" because that would be redundant (and ridiculous). 

Impoverished people are oppressed by capitalism and are forced to operate within the confines of the systemic construct that is capita in order to survive.

POC are oppressed by racism and are forced to operate within the confines of the systemic construct that is race in order to survive.

POC recognizing their heritage and culture is not racist. White people trying to erase individual cultures to unite disparate social groups by excluding other groups is racism.

Being white is racist, being Irish isn't.

Latinx is a social construct created in response to European imperialism.

Identifying heritage isn't strictly nationalist. Nationalism is rooted in a belief that your nation is inherently better than other nations. Recognizing historical facts (my family comes from Mexico) is different than nationalistic ideas like Mexico has an inherent right too exploit developing nations.  

No, No, No. Again you are STILL using a redefinition. It is so simple. A person who uses "race" is racist. You use it all the time. You are a racist. Plain and simple. When I call myself Hispanic, I am being racist. Plain and simple. The real definition of racism never included any restrictive clause about oppression. Systemic racism is the relation to the system of racism. It is all in the etymology. Same with the word "capitalism". It's scope is broader than just systemic capitalism. Systemic is, by definition, relating to a system. Something relating to a system of capitalism is not capitalism, it is simply relating to a system of it.

And yes, participating in the "systemic construct that is race is racist" but it is only a subsection of racism relating to the system of racism. Systemic racism is real as is racism but they are NOT equivalent.

Nationalism may be rooted in such a belief that you described but that is a linked cause or either result of nationalistic belief, not the definition of nationalism. And yes, "Recognizing historical facts (my family comes from Mexico) is different than nationalistic ideas".  You are correct in that they are not the same. X-ism is not equivalent to X-istic ideas.

The things you keep describing fall under either the result of racism or the cause of racism, not actual racism. The result, effect, or even cause of an idea is NOT the definition of the idea. It is simple logic. Take: "The result of X equals X" and/or "The cause of X equals X". If those statements were true then it results is a non-distinctive state of the coefficient qualifiers of "result" and "cause". This places "result" and "cause" within an equality set that can only be resolved if the set is in a state of logical singularity. This means that for those two statements to be true, "cause" would have to equal "effect" by definition, and both would have to be in a logically singular state otherwise the statements cannot ever resolve to be logically true.

( (C · X ≠ X) ∧ (R · X ≠ X) ∧ (C · X ≠ R · X) ) ≡∼ ( ( C :⇔ R )  ⇒ ⊤ )  ... It is that simple.

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Tossing these Antifa word salads with some real art:

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Hey!

I'm Mr. MeeSeeks! Look at me!

I'm gonna have an argument with myself  right in front of your face!

Watch THIS:

 

"Light Without The Eyes With Which To See It, Illuminates Nothing." - Some Dude

Cynic, n. A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be. Hence the custom among the Scythians of plucking out a cynic's eyes to improve their vision. - A.B. 1881

 

It's like playing chess (or learning how to play "Into The Echoside") by yourself!

Masturbation with a dusty future.

 

Hey, @noah-fence ...

I'm gonna assume that amongst all the "Fight Club"-ing and "Matrix"-ing... that you've also watched that other Ed Norton movie,  "American History X".

With that movie in mind... and with more than a year's worth of "social media sobriety" behind me...

What did it take for 'Derek' to "learn the error of his ways"?

 

He got raped and beaten to a pulp by his own "people", only to be saved by the charity of his "enemy".

 

The question becomes... What is it that you think you (and ALL you POLTI-Fucks) can do HERE... with words on a screen that will make your  "Dereks" look for that kind of absolution?

 

If energy is not destroyed but 'converted', then what becomes of the energy you are all expending here?

Vote or Die.

 

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Game design can also be art:

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