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Alex Jones situation...
August 8, 2018
1:00 pm
Karacalla
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OK, so the guy is batshit crazy, let's just get that out of the way first and foremost, but does any body feel that the recent trend of every major online platform pulling the guys content is kind of extreme and a severe attack on the first amendment, freedom of speech?

What ever happened to If you don't like a channel..or radio station.. Don't watch it?

The pulling of his content was over his allegations that the sandy hook school shooting was staged and the kids who died were allegedly actors.

Fuxked up, I know, but to pull his content all across the board because it offended a small group of people is kind of extreme and really indicative of this ultra P.C. environment we live in, and now to the point where freedom of speech is getting impeded upon. 

I do not support the guy in any way, shape or form, but C'mon. If this is where we are headed where does it really end?

Any thoughts?

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August 8, 2018
1:17 pm
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I was really into Alex Jones back in the mid 2000's with the whole 9/11 was an inside job, Loose Change doc, Bohemian Grove, the fucking intergalactic child molesters, and all the other crazy shit he talked about.  But now he's just not my kind of flavor anymore, but that in no means I think he should have all his content striped off the interwebs.  That's sum buuullshit, crappin all over the 1st amendment!  

Did he do something illegal? 

There's anything and EVERYTHING on the fuckin internet.  How you gonna just rob this dude..??  I dunno....but I don't really care either to tell you the truth.  I LOVE a great conspiracy tho!  I can go DEEP into a 4 hour rabbit hole on YouTube 3 in the morning on my couch.  Aliens...totally into them.  JFK.....holy shit.  Moon landing.....wig blowing.  Flat Earth........get the fuck outta here with that dumb shit.  That's the only one cannot get fully into. 

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August 8, 2018
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According to Jones he was finally deplatformed because he was exposing how Apple & Google "admit now they've moved to China, & the Democrats are allied with China, & they were always concerned about this so that's why they created the red herring that we've got Trump involved with the Russians... the Russians can't even get their act together to wipe their ass... literally half their stop lights don't work. They're collapsing. But the Chinese have got their fucking shit together, they own most our debt, they control Hollywood... in the The Wall Street Journal saying they run everything... SIT DOWN & SUCK GLOBALIST COCK!"

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YouTube Video Alex Jones on The Anthony Cumia Show 

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August 8, 2018
4:19 pm
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djscrubb said
I was really into Alex Jones back in the mid 2000's with the whole 9/11 was an inside job, Loose Change doc, Bohemian Grove, the fucking intergalactic child molesters, and all the other crazy shit he talked about.  But now he's just not my kind of flavor anymore, but that in no means I think he should have all his content striped off the interwebs.  That's sum buuullshit, crappin all over the 1st amendment!  

Did he do something illegal? 

There's anything and EVERYTHING on the fuckin internet.  How you gonna just rob this dude..??  I dunno....but I don't really care either to tell you the truth.  I LOVE a great conspiracy tho!  I can go DEEP into a 4 hour rabbit hole on YouTube 3 in the morning on my couch.  Aliens...totally into them.  JFK.....holy shit.  Moon landing.....wig blowing.  Flat Earth........get the fuck outta here with that dumb shit.  That's the only one cannot get fully into.   

The internet is made up of millions of businesses. Every single .com is some store or bar or skate park. None of them are required to provide you or anybody else a platform. Just last night,  someone came and spammed fly with garbage and this morning it was gone. 

Alex Jones was basically the drunk asshole who had to be kicked out of the bar for starting fights. Because of his propaganda, people have targeted the families of victims in high profile shootings and harassed them into relocating and hiding. 

The solution then is either we nationalize Facebook,  YouTube,  etc. Giving the government control and return his pages or we let businesses decide for themselves who has access to their product. 

If you really believed that all lives matter we wouldn't need to say black lives matter

August 8, 2018
4:57 pm
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Noah Fence said 

... Because of his propaganda, people have targeted the families of victims in high profile shootings and harassed them into relocating and hiding... 

Source? Anyone?

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August 8, 2018
5:05 pm
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If you really believed that all lives matter we wouldn't need to say black lives matter

August 8, 2018
5:07 pm
Noah Fence
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Also if you think Google etc are censoring his free speech but are okay with the NFL punishing athletes for protesting police brutality,  you're probably racist

If you really believed that all lives matter we wouldn't need to say black lives matter

August 8, 2018
5:12 pm
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Noah Fence said... yet again... 

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August 8, 2018
5:15 pm
Noah Fence
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It's not fascism when the free market does it. The left isn't responsible for Alex Jones losing his platform any more than the right. 

That's how the business world works. 

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If you really believed that all lives matter we wouldn't need to say black lives matter

August 8, 2018
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Oh also if you think Google etc owe Jones a platform but bakers can refuse clients for being gay,  you're guilty of what you just accused me of. 

If you really believed that all lives matter we wouldn't need to say black lives matter

August 8, 2018
5:40 pm
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P.S. Noah, the source link you provided mentions pending lawsuits with allegations, but it seems nothing has yet been proven about things like harassment or families going into hiding. Innocent until proven guilty still holds in America even if Commiefornia is trying to erase it from history. U were right about one thing, though:

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August 8, 2018
6:24 pm
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Facebook, Apple, Google, & Spotify banned Alex Jones...

FAGS...

lol

YouTube Video Finally Alex Jones is Watchable - Info Derps! - Meme 

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August 8, 2018
6:30 pm
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This whole situation reminds me of the time when a certain forum Frenchman was turned into an "Unperson" by @scottied, at the insistence of his minion @scruffy ........

 

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August 8, 2018
6:42 pm
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reminds me of your whole style:  babble about useless bullshit, but make damned sure to twist it til it has something, anything, to do with scruffy.  cuz lord knows, nobody would pay any attention to you without it.  

miklo, you think about me more than even i think about me.  legit.  all of us, you included, know this to be the truth.  

  

hows it make you feel, to know that your identity is pegged to, of all fuckin people, me?  

i bet youre very proud of yourself.  you should tell your mommy about it, finally get some respect.  

  

see ya next time youre keepin me at the forefront of your mind, fanboy. 

probably real soon.  bet.  

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  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

August 8, 2018
7:00 pm
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Damn, @scruffy must be between deliveries at the Hut to be able to fire off a response that quick.

I love that dude only responds to posts where I reference him, then pretends that's all I ever post about.

Homie should grow some plums I come to the Milenko tour here in Canada, it'd be funny to toss him around in the mosh pit.

 

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August 8, 2018
7:13 pm
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Miklo Velka said       
Damn, scruffy must be between deliveries at the Hut to be able to fire off a response that quick.    
I love that dude only responds to posts where I reference him, then pretends that's all I ever post about.    
Homie should grow some plums I come to the Milenko tour here in Canada, it'd be funny to toss him around in the mosh pit.   

not very long at all...  yeah, you got sooo much scruffy on your mind.  bet you have a hope chest.  

'he should come all the way to canada, cuz im only safe from him in canada.'  what, you too meek to cross the border, so i gotta do it for you?  if you wanna pay for it, maybe i will.  

fuckin hilarious.  you aint tossin shit, here, there, nowhere.  

and why dont you go through your last, say, fifty posts?  youll be reeeal upset with yourself, when you see how many of em are the 'miklo loves scruffy show'.  

  

without me, you are nothin at all.  truth.  

best part is, you cant even stop yourself from proving it to be true.  on command, even.  

  

on the topic, by the way, i give fucks about it.  

ill say, though, that in my experience, conspiracy theorists generally dont know shit about what theyre talkin about.  

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  awfully paranoid, arent you?   

August 8, 2018
7:13 pm
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krunkazphuk said
P.S. Noah, the source link you provided mentions pending lawsuits with allegations, but it seems nothing has yet been proven about things like harassment or families going into hiding. Innocent until proven guilty still holds in America even if Commiefornia is trying to erase it from history. U were right about one thing, though:

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You realize innocent until proven guilty means he can't be incarcerated or killed or fined for allegations against him. It doesn't have anything to do with me telling people what he did. 

Also, the allegations are that he knowingly provoked the harassment,  his claim that he's just a comedic act and wasn't intentionally inciting harassment doesn't argue against the fact that these people have been harassed by his fans,  just that only an idiot would take him as real. 

So honest question,  how do you justify claiming the first amendment applies here but not in regards to Colin Kaepernick or anti gay bakers?

If you really believed that all lives matter we wouldn't need to say black lives matter

August 8, 2018
7:43 pm
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I don't like any form of censorship. I support free speech regardless of whether I agree with it or not.

“I don’t agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” - Evelyn Beatrice Hall

It's weird to me that any Juggalo would not support this point of view seeing as how the music we listen to is nearly illegal and probably would be if it weren't for free speech advocates.

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August 9, 2018
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Noah Fence said

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So honest question,  how do you justify claiming the first amendment applies here but not in regards to Colin Kaepernick or anti gay bakers?  

Colin can do what he wishes anytime. Once at work, like all employees, he is subject to follow the rules of the company. He is still free to not follow those rules and is free to get fired or his contract not renewed for not following the rules. His protest is protected by free speech. He will not be held criminally responsible for his protest. But his employer is free to terminate his contract for breaking actual written rules that were in place when he was hired.  
I am fine with Colin's protests. He is exercising his freedom but it does not prevent his boss from taking action due to Colin's actions while "on-the-clock" during work.

With anti-gay bakers. They reserve the right to refuse service to anyone. They are not bound by the same laws as government service providers.  They can say whatever hateful things they wish. AND I can choose to go to a baker who isn't bigoted.  (And why would I want to eat anything made by someone who dislikes or hates me) 

I think first amendment applies to Colin and the "bigot bakers".  I will support their right to do what they have done but I don't like what either has done. ... Actually with Colin, I could care less since I never watch any sports. With the bakers, I support their right to refuse service as they see fit, but I will not patronize an establishment that actively refuses service to gays. I'll take my business elsewhere. 

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As for Alex Jones, he has the right to say what he wants. I defend that right. The government will not stop him. I will not stop him. The private sector, though, may do so and seems to be doing so.  While I don't know all the facts in his particular instance, I have heard arguments that because federal judges have ruled in several cases that certain social media is to be considered public forum and the company running the social platform service can not restrict content but the patrons of such platform can individually restrict (block/mute) a particular persons content. There have been other federal judges who have ruled exactly opposite.  

He is not the first person to have this happen to them, but with the recent allegations of social media companies "shadow-banning" or "QFD-banning" primarily conservative accounts as we approach mid-term elections, it is sparking conversations up and down all levels of government about coordinated suppression of the speaking of particular political ideas.  

I have been subject to shadow-banning and am now currently under a QFD ban. It sucks. I can say anything I want on Twitter and no one will see it. I just tweet into the void.  The issue is that the algorithm has ensnared conservative politicians and a handful of libertarian politicians who are now in the same boat. It is even hitting conservative and libertarian media personalities but surprisingly not any liberal media personalities. Because it has affected politicians, laws are being scrutinized. 

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August 9, 2018
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Love this smart guy's rational explanation:

"So the great purge, my friends, is upon us; the Left is doing what it always does, which is to attempt to destroy voices raised up against it in rational opposition advocating for freedom, free markets, limited government, & a reduction of the general amount of coercion within society... they attempt to erase or destroy those who voice opposition to them because they're desperate for power & the resources that it brings..."

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