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I don't like any form of censorship. I support free speech regardless of whether I agree with it or not.

“I don’t agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” - Evelyn Beatrice Hall

It's weird to me that any Juggalo would not support this point of view seeing as how the music we listen to is nearly illegal and probably would be if it weren't for free speech advocates.  

This.

I think more juggalos are really starting to wake up due to the "Gang" assessment thing, and have become advocates for the first amendment based off of the experiences others, and themselves, had to endure. I hate to say it, but if we get more people to take off the peaky blinders because of it, than it was all for something in the end.

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Colin can do what he wishes anytime. Once at work, like all employees, he is subject to follow the rules of the company. He is still free to not follow those rules and is free to get fired or his contract not renewed for not following the rules. His protest is protected by free speech. He will not be held criminally responsible for his protest. But his employer is free to terminate his contract for breaking actual written rules that were in place when he was hired.  
I am fine with Colin's protests. He is exercising his freedom but it does not prevent his boss from taking action due to Colin's actions while "on-the-clock" during work.

Boom....Head Shot.

A few years back, Rite around the time E-Ciggs became super popular, people at my job got around the, "Smoke Free Work Place" policy by doing the vape thing. They got bitched at, but the company had no biases for any kind of reprimand due to it clearly stating in that years employee handbook, No TOBACCO products are permitted for use on company grounds.

So for an entire year the company could not do a thing about it, Next year comes around with an updated handbook and, in print, included E-Cigarettes, Vape pens..ect..ect.. to the ban list. We all had sign it.

Just like the Kapernick situation, Yes you have the right to protest, but while on your job you must adhere to the rules and regulations set forth by the company you work for. We had some religious freaks at my former job try to cause a stir, but they signed the employee handbook, like the rest of us, stating you are not to discuss religious or political views with other employees at any time. You would have thought the company made a threat on their lives the way they reacted, but Once again, a persons personal time and work time have a different set of rules. If you are in a union of any kind, you sort of have a little more protection and freedom, but where I'm at, in Louisiana, it is a "Right to work" state, meaning, you can be fired at anytime, for any reason for nothing at all and its legit. Companies down here legitimately FEAR people getting together and talking about Unionizing. 

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Oh also if you think Google etc owe Jones a platform but bakers can refuse clients for being gay,  you're guilty of what you just accused me of.   

I thought that's what the Supreme Court concluded, That if YOU own a PRIVATE business, you reserve the right to refuse any one for any reason. It does not make it right, but the laws the law. How you think black folks or gays in the Rural south feel about that? You got some places down here where Affirmative action apparently never took place and Jim Crow is still the standard, Most in Mississippi and Alabama, but La and FL are not to far ahead of them. That's why I love New Orleans, Its a blue city in a red state and more progressive and in tuned with modern times. Oh, Thank you Californians by the way, Now we can't smoke in bars either. Assholes. lol...really...not...really....

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I'm looking forward to SCOTUS rulings on what Google, Facebook, etc. actually owe their users. If they wanna be responsible for censoring/editing user content, they could be liable for said content, & then they're financially done. Glad the glorious rodeo clowns at Infowars are still available at places like this:

https://www.infowars.com/watch-alex-jones-show/

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YouTube Video #1 Viral Video REMIX Alex Jones Living Meme Explosion Super Deluxe Bon Iver Folk Song

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is this actually a thread about forced censorship? 

join gab.ai it's just like twitter but you can say anything you want and I mean anything and you won't get banned for it 

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is this actually a thread about forced censorship? 

join gab.ai it's just like twitter but you can say anything you want and I mean anything and you won't get banned for it   

Thanks for the tip, God Emperor Trump. Seems some douchebags keep cranking out the unconstitutional

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I dont think people should be silenced by any legislature. Unless it falls unser ckear harassment. I dont tjink it should be legal to verbally assault people. Especially on some sexual shit.

I also believe these companies have the freedom to air and pull what ever show they want.

Its their right to air or remove the show. Not cry baby anti leftists weirdos.

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bayAreaShaman said
I dont think people should be silenced by any legislature. Unless it falls unser ckear harassment. I dont tjink it should be legal to verbally assault people. Especially on some sexual shit.

I also believe these companies have the freedom to air and pull what ever show they want.

Its their right to air or remove the show. Not cry baby anti leftists weirdos.

Eat chicken shit pig fuckers  

I remember an episode on John Oliver's show, where he broke down how Television networks are owned by

an elite group of Conservatives and how they personally send out scripts to every news network they own

and the Anchor people have to read it on air.

He then went on, proving this, by showing clip after clip of different Local and Prime time news channels reciting

the exact same dialog. I want to say Sinclair group was their name.

I don't think freedom exist anywhere as long as a buck can be made.

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Here are a few more places to find INFOWARS (since the previous link I provided is currently timing out... Hmmm...)

https://www.newswars.com/

https://www.prisonplanet.com/

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I think it's dumb that they are trying to censor Alex Jones off of all the platforms. 

 

The new political war seems to be over who can censor the other's first and it's stupid as hell.

 

Freedom of speech means you have to hear things you don't want to hear. 

 

You don't even have to hear that blithering idiot, either. It's a choice. If they're worried about him having too much of an influence then perhaps they should look to our education system to teach people how to think rather than how to follow.

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krunkazphuk said
Love this smart guy's rational explanation:

"So the great purge, my friends, is upon us; the Left is doing what it always does, which is to attempt to destroy voices raised up against it in rational opposition advocating for freedom, free markets, limited government, & a reduction of the general amount of coercion within society... they attempt to erase or destroy those who voice opposition to them because they're desperate for power & the resources that it brings..."

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You have to be blatantly delusional if you think the right isn't trying to do the same thing.

Justifying the censorship of Colin (I don't think the NFL has an employee handbook saying you HAVE to stand for that stupid ass national anthem), whole movements trying to censor liberals in the comic book industry, the alt-right trying to censor Wolfenstien II because they thought killing Nazis was racist towards white people, Trump trying to censor journalism because they report facts that make him look bad and the last two decades of right wing politicians trying to censor everything from video games to music like NWA or trying to ban Marilyn Manson. The only difference is most companies that provide a platform for speaking or owned by left wing people. Tables turned the right wing would be doing the same shit.

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You have to be blatantly delusional if you think the right isn't trying to do the same thing...

I agree (if you call it the FUNDAMENTALIST right). To counter Evangelocons I was part of a Marilyn Manson stripper freak drug cult in the crotch of the Bible Belt in the '90s. We wore things like CUNTASSBITCH shirts and walked around fancy brunch parts of town on Sundays to take the edge off the neighborhood faith healer's megachurch. Good times. cool

"...don't know a fundamentalist 'til you've met one..." Consolidated

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King Lucem Ferre said

You have to be blatantly delusional if you think the right isn't trying to do the same thing.

Justifying the censorship of Colin (I don't think the NFL has an employee handbook saying you HAVE to stand for that stupid ass national anthem), whole movements trying to censor liberals in the comic book industry, the alt-right trying to censor Wolfenstien II because they thought killing Nazis was racist towards white people, Trump trying to censor journalism because they report facts that make him look bad and the last two decades of right wing politicians trying to censor everything from video games to music like NWA or trying to ban Marilyn Manson. The only difference is most companies that provide a platform for speaking or owned by left wing people. Tables turned the right wing would be doing the same shit.  

The NFL Rulebook makes no mention of the national anthem. But the Game Operations Manual does. At least it did until a recent change within the last few months.

"The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses."

I, personally, am anti-censorship. I think all sides should refrain from censorship. People should be able to say anything they want no matter how it is perceived.  Some say that promoting hate/violence or "hate speech" should not be allowed. I disagree. If someone is telling me to enact violence, I choose for myself not to do it. I take responsibility for my own decisions. There are laws against promoting violence so I will obey the laws for that as long as those laws are in place.

I am currently censored on Twitter. I have never tweeted/retweeted anything that violates twitter's TOS policy. According to twitter, they do not shadowban (even though hidden cameras have caught their developers saying that they do it and it specifically targets conservative accounts). Every shadowban detection site shows I am shadowbanned. I can tweet all day and it appears in my timeline but no one else can see my tweets. I don't show up in any search and when I enable twitter analytics, it shows no one has even read my tweets. I just tweet into the void.  I have sent a link of one of my tweets to a co-worker for them to "like" to see if they can. They were able to "like" the tweet but when they went back to list the tweets they have liked, twitter automatically "un-liked" the tweet for him. I think this will all change soon. A few conservative politicians have also been targeted by this censorship and are putting together a case. The case is actually based on the federal judge ruling that ordered that the @potus account could not block people because he is a government official speaking in a "town square" public forum and thus protected from censorship (blocking) by the first amendment. (Funny thing is it is a pointless ruling. @potus account never blocked anyone - @realdonaldtrump has and it is his personal account which he is free to do with as he pleases)

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krunkazphuk said

King Lucem Ferre said

You have to be blatantly delusional if you think the right isn't trying to do the same thing...

I agree (if you call it the FUNDAMENTALIST right). To counter Evangelocons I was part of a Marilyn Manson stripper freak drug cult in the crotch of the Bible Belt in the '90s. We wore things like CUNTASSBITCH shirts and walked around fancy brunch parts of town on Sundays to take the edge off the neighborhood faith healer's megachurch. Good times. cool

"...don't know a fundamentalist 'til you've met one..." Consolidated  

I used to beat up "Mansonites" in High School also those weirdos who would fancy themselves and dress up like the lead character in the movie the CROW. Nothing worse than an emo goth than a wanna be emo goth. Trolling Christians is easy, Troll a mosque or a Jewish Temple if you want real stripes lol.

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The NFL Rulebook makes no mention of the national anthem. But the Game Operations Manual does. At least it did until a recent change within the last few months.

"The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses."

I, personally, am anti-censorship. I think all sides should refrain from censorship. People should be able to say anything they want no matter how it is perceived.  Some say that promoting hate/violence or "hate speech" should not be allowed. I disagree. If someone is telling me to enact violence, I choose for myself not to do it. I take responsibility for my own decisions. There are laws against promoting violence so I will obey the laws for that as long as those laws are in place.

I am currently censored on Twitter. I have never tweeted/retweeted anything that violates twitter's TOS policy. According to twitter, they do not shadowban (even though hidden cameras have caught their developers saying that they do it and it specifically targets conservative accounts). Every shadowban detection site shows I am shadowbanned. I can tweet all day and it appears in my timeline but no one else can see my tweets. I don't show up in any search and when I enable twitter analytics, it shows no one has even read my tweets. I just tweet into the void.  I have sent a link of one of my tweets to a co-worker for them to "like" to see if they can. They were able to "like" the tweet but when they went back to list the tweets they have liked, twitter automatically "un-liked" the tweet for him. I think this will all change soon. A few conservative politicians have also been targeted by this censorship and are putting together a case. The case is actually based on the federal judge ruling that ordered that the @potus account could not block people because he is a government official speaking in a "town square" public forum and thus protected from censorship (blocking) by the first amendment. (Funny thing is it is a pointless ruling. @potus account never blocked anyone - @realdonaldtrump has and it is his personal account which he is free to do with as he pleases)  

"Should Stand" is not "Must Stand" and this is the NFL Weaseling out of any responsibility and putting the bad publicity upon the team owners shoulders. 

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Karacalla said 
Trolling Christians is easy, Troll a mosque or a Jewish Temple if you want real stripes lol... 

I troll Islam every time I shop at my neighborhood no-go zone Walmart without being dressed like a beekeeper. Not to mention my top shelf, black market halal porn business complete with Zamzam water clit implants. Peace be upon it. Bitch.

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krunkazphuk said

King Lucem Ferre said

You have to be blatantly delusional if you think the right isn't trying to do the same thing...

I agree (if you call it the FUNDAMENTALIST right). To counter Evangelocons I was part of a Marilyn Manson stripper freak drug cult in the crotch of the Bible Belt in the '90s. We wore things like CUNTASSBITCH shirts and walked around fancy brunch parts of town on Sundays to take the edge off the neighborhood faith healer's megachurch. Good times. cool

"...don't know a fundamentalist 'til you've met one..." Consolidated  

I heard an interesting article from a youtube channel tearing apart Jordan Peterson's bitch ass that referred to the obnoxious hardcore SJWs as left wing conservatives. So, keeping that in mind, perhaps the biggest problems in our country isn't the left OR the right, it's conservatives, fundamentalists and traditionalists.

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The NFL Rulebook makes no mention of the national anthem. But the Game Operations Manual does. At least it did until a recent change within the last few months.

"The National Anthem must be played prior to every NFL game, and all players must be on the sideline for the National Anthem. During the National Anthem, players on the field and bench area should stand at attention, face the flag, hold helmets in their left hand, and refrain from talking. The home team should ensure that the American flag is in good condition. It should be pointed out to players and coaches that we continue to be judged by the public in this area of respect for the flag and our country. Failure to be on the field by the start of the National Anthem may result in discipline, such as fines, suspensions, and/or the forfeiture of draft choice(s) for violations of the above, including first offenses."

I, personally, am anti-censorship. I think all sides should refrain from censorship. People should be able to say anything they want no matter how it is perceived.  Some say that promoting hate/violence or "hate speech" should not be allowed. I disagree. If someone is telling me to enact violence, I choose for myself not to do it. I take responsibility for my own decisions. There are laws against promoting violence so I will obey the laws for that as long as those laws are in place.

I am currently censored on Twitter. I have never tweeted/retweeted anything that violates twitter's TOS policy. According to twitter, they do not shadowban (even though hidden cameras have caught their developers saying that they do it and it specifically targets conservative accounts). Every shadowban detection site shows I am shadowbanned. I can tweet all day and it appears in my timeline but no one else can see my tweets. I don't show up in any search and when I enable twitter analytics, it shows no one has even read my tweets. I just tweet into the void.  I have sent a link of one of my tweets to a co-worker for them to "like" to see if they can. They were able to "like" the tweet but when they went back to list the tweets they have liked, twitter automatically "un-liked" the tweet for him. I think this will all change soon. A few conservative politicians have also been targeted by this censorship and are putting together a case. The case is actually based on the federal judge ruling that ordered that the @potus account could not block people because he is a government official speaking in a "town square" public forum and thus protected from censorship (blocking) by the first amendment. (Funny thing is it is a pointless ruling. @potus account never blocked anyone - @realdonaldtrump has and it is his personal account which he is free to do with as he pleases)  

I think that's dumb and I don't think any institution should have the right to force you to participate in rituals or beliefs that contradict your own.

And I don't get how YOU of all people would  be banned on Twitter. Like, there's already tons of obnoxiously offensive twitter people that aren't banned. 

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It grants me immense pleasure to see this happen to that moron, more than i can put into words, but that doesn't make it right. I think people are letting their anger towards him cloud their sense of what is right, resulting in pure hipocracy. 

Big companies like youtube have ripple effects throughout the entirety of society, so much that they have a moral obligation to uphold freedom of speech, key word MORAL obligation, not a LEGAL obligation, people counter the argument that it is an attack on freedom of speech by bringing up the fact that its not illegal as they are independent companies, but that is irrelevent, what matters is that his voice has been effectivley silenced on the largest platform in the entire world, a platform avaliable to nearly everyone else.

There are countless extremists with disgusting views, many of which on the opposite side of him, and I hate all of them, even though they do get the unintentional laugh every now and then (though Alex got the most unintentional laughs), but none of them deserve deplatforming, its not like this is some kind of panel with limited numbers of people, hell, even if it was its important to incoporate people's different view points. These companies have a social power that is pure and unparalled, and they are abusing it.

Fuck Alex Jones, bring him back.

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